Posts by Finkelstein

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Circuit Overseer to Answer My Questions + Concerns...or Not

by Research in

hello all, i'm 'researching', a jw who is in the first steps of taking a look at their beliefs.. i've semi-recently (about a couple weeks ago) heard about the sexual abuse cases (pennsylvania attorney general’s investigation request) and then the arc in 2015. this lead to a deep investigation, which lead to many questions arising.

a jw friend of mine suggested i be careful (due to apostates) and ask the brothers.

so i typed up my questions + concerns and emailed an elder my mother has known for a long time.

Finkelstein

By the way trying to draw out factual information that may some way be demeaning or damaging toward "The" organization by its own supporting members like the elders or CO's, will only result in a prearranged scripted answer that may actually be full of lies and half truths.

For example recently a GB member A Morris gave a talk discussing the recent accusations of the organization concealing incidences of pedophilia, he said " Well we didn't know that child sexaul abuse was a unlawful crime.

Lying to protect the image of the organization is a constant plying endeavor with its engaged members, its expected and encouraged for all, from the very top GB members down .

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Circuit Overseer to Answer My Questions + Concerns...or Not

by Research in

hello all, i'm 'researching', a jw who is in the first steps of taking a look at their beliefs.. i've semi-recently (about a couple weeks ago) heard about the sexual abuse cases (pennsylvania attorney general’s investigation request) and then the arc in 2015. this lead to a deep investigation, which lead to many questions arising.

a jw friend of mine suggested i be careful (due to apostates) and ask the brothers.

so i typed up my questions + concerns and emailed an elder my mother has known for a long time.

Finkelstein

Research all you have to do is stop going and shut up about the religion altogether, its activities and doctrines to your mother or whoever..

Being that your baptized the door is now open to those elders to disfellowship at your congregation , based upon being an opposing apostate.

These elders like to do that because it reasserts their own elevated power and its a show of loyalty to Jehovah for themselves and his earthly organization.

They are going to try and hurt you to their digression, only if you let them.

The qestion is are going to let them ?

They will try to lure you into saying something and guilt you out at the same time in the process.

The correct answer and objective is to simply say your going to keep your findings and decision personal to yourself. .......and be poignantly firm about that !

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Do you think there will be panic buying of food, guns ect?

by JimmyYoung in

i wonder if there will be panic buying of food, guns, gas ect due to the corona virus.

what do you guys think?.

Finkelstein

I think we are far from that theological situation.

Did someone watch too many doomsday movies or read Watchtower magazines.?

Unfortunately apocalyptic doomsday religoius cults like the JWS push people away from being balanced in thought and emotions.

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by Verenda in

how do i change my avatar?

i have tried uploading an image but nothing seems to be working.. thanks.

Finkelstein

NewLight message Simon , he may be able to help you out, he's the owner of the site

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Coronavirus / Covid-19 - The canary in the coal mine

by JimmyYoung in

is anyone prepping by buying food that has a long shelf life?

i have been messing with it for years.

buying fat free powder milk, bullion cubes, rice, beans dried, and other things that has a shelf life of 25 years.

Finkelstein

Jimmy Young says ......

My brother makes fun of me and asks if I have seen black helicopters but its not a matter of if but when.

So JY are you suffering from a form of paranoia of some kind ?

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Coronavirus / Covid-19 - The canary in the coal mine

by JimmyYoung in

is anyone prepping by buying food that has a long shelf life?

i have been messing with it for years.

buying fat free powder milk, bullion cubes, rice, beans dried, and other things that has a shelf life of 25 years.

Finkelstein

Its always practical to have substances to live off from if there is a environmental calamity such as earthquake, floods, storms etc.

So yes I store nonperishable food items, water, a cooking devise, candles, a first aid kit, backup battery packs for cell phones, a portable generator for home appliances or whatever.

Having some cash stored away too is advisable for if the electricity goes down so does the debit card / credit card buying capability which you may have to have to buy things.

This absolutely has nothing to do with the fear mongering aspects coming from the JWS religion, this is based upon reality of facts and consequences.

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When many of the GB are dead in 10 years

by HiddenPimo in

what will be their new plan?.

Finkelstein

Yes, it's known as "the sunk-cost fallacy": The more you have invested in something, the more sacrifices you have made for it, the less likely you will objectively evaluate it and the more likely you will feel more convinced about it because the alternative view that you are wrong is too horrible to live with.

Well said Steve2

The top GB men will bullshit up something as they always have done in an effort to keep the organization on going and realistically part of that is for themselves.

Going back to people such as J Rutherford and the men who followed him these were the men who had so much to gain out the organization than anyone else, so one should assume the reasons and drive behind their individual efforts.

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by Verenda in

how do i change my avatar?

i have tried uploading an image but nothing seems to be working.. thanks.

Finkelstein

The software called Gravatar used work for this site, it might still ,check it out. You basically pick a picture you want to use from your own computer, upload it to their site and copy it over to here.

https://en.gravatar.com/support/what-is-gravatar/

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News Reports are "Apostate Lies"

by truth_b_known in

with the most recent investigative news report show entitled "the witnesses" i noticed a number of posters whose family members are pimi refer to such shows as "apostate lies.

" even the governing body (possibly loesch) made such a statement (possibly on jw broadcasting).

i was thinking of how to reply to such a statement.. first, ask "who is the apostate?

Finkelstein

Its a valid confirmation of cult thinking, as not to trust information from outside of the organization /cult, particularly about its own internal operations.

They postulate that apostates are inspired by Satan to harm Jehovah's chosen organization.

Worldly institutions like Public news casts are always informed .

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Name one POSITIVE thing you took from your experience as a Witness

by geodude in

i was thinking about this at work the other day, and realized the one positive thing i can truly credit the jws with: .

i have no fear of public speaking.

i was a shy kid, fat, clumsy, with crooked glasses and worse teeth, who wore hand-me-downs in one of the wealthiest counties in all of america, who sat still while classmates got up to salute the flag or recite the pledge of allegiance.

Finkelstein

How to develop critical thinking skills toward received information.

I think its worse for a child to be in this cult from birth for as a child your automatically receptive to any incoming information directly offered from your parents..

Having fair and balanced open skepticism to all written words is a valuable asset for the individual and humanity.