In his capacity as an idustrialist and factory-owner, Ford may be considered a genius, but he was an evil genius. He used his power, prestige and influence to "fan the flames" of anti-semitism, racial hatred and xenophobia. The evil of which he was guilty was compounded by his power and prestige. Obviously, Hitler would have planned and carried out the Holocaust even without having read Ford's volumes. However, Ford definitely did make a contributing effort in bringing about the genocide of Jews during World War Two. As I said, The InternationalJew had a widespread and horribly baneful influence and effect, especially in Nazi Germany.
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Quotable Quotes - Henry Ford (fluff)
by MsMcDucket inhenry ford was an american industrialist and pioneer of the assembly-line production method.
he was the founder of the ford motor co. one of many achievements of henry ford was the introduction of the model t car!
below are words of wisdom in the form of inspirational quotes and motivational quotes by henry ford:.
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Quotable Quotes - Henry Ford (fluff)
by MsMcDucket inhenry ford was an american industrialist and pioneer of the assembly-line production method.
he was the founder of the ford motor co. one of many achievements of henry ford was the introduction of the model t car!
below are words of wisdom in the form of inspirational quotes and motivational quotes by henry ford:.
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Rapunzel
In 1918, Henry Ford had his private secretary and closest aide, Ernest G. Liebold, purchase a newspaper named The Dearborn Independent. Liebold was the editor of the paper from 1920-1927. Ford used this newspaper to publish "Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion." Have you ever heard of these "Protocols"? They are an ugly, concocted, defamatory slur against Jews. These "Protocols" purport to expose the "secret plan" of Jews to achieve world domination. They were originally published in Russia in the 1800's. They were next translated into French. In Ford's day, these "Protocols" had already long been debunked as a total fraud, but he endorsed them as "fitting in" with what was "going on' in American society.
Alonng with the Protocols, Ford also used the DearbornIndependent to publish a four-volume series entitled The International Jew, the World's Foremost Problem. Due to their wide distribution, these four volumes had enormous influence, especially in Nazi Germany. Hitler read and admired them; and he revered Ford. Hitler made a vow to put Ford's theories into practice in Germany. Ford is the only American mentioned in Hitler's Mein Kampf [My Struggle]. Neo-Nazis and other hate groups still publish material gleaned from the pages of TheInternational Jew.
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A revelation for me: the revelation of Revelation
by Eyes Open ini was reading the thread about revelation, and some research i did on the beginning of chapter 10 of the apocalyptic book came to mind, so i thought i'd share it here in case anyone's interested.. as an ignorant jehovah's witness, i had no idea of the real literary structure of the book.
the watchtower society makes out the mighty angel in 10:1 who stands on the sea and earth is jesus christ, and that the contents of the little scroll he hands john is a prophecy to be fulfilled after 1914. to grasp the simple truth that the strong angel in 10:1 is the angel alluded to in 1:1, and that the little scroll is actually the scroll which has been progressively unsealed in 6:1 to 8:1, was very satisfying.
it describes the revelation being given to john, which contains the main content of the prophetic work!.
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the meaning of the phrase." Sorry,again, I don't know what you mean. You also write: "Or perhaps there two parallel different meanings..." Here, you aproach the truth of the matter. However, I would use the word combined, or conflated, or simultaneous.to describe what the woman is doing in her book's title. Her pun conflates the two meanings so that the meanings of both words are understood simultaneously by the reader.
Sorry about the break in my post, a certain little im I know hit the "submit" button while I was typing.
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A revelation for me: the revelation of Revelation
by Eyes Open ini was reading the thread about revelation, and some research i did on the beginning of chapter 10 of the apocalyptic book came to mind, so i thought i'd share it here in case anyone's interested.. as an ignorant jehovah's witness, i had no idea of the real literary structure of the book.
the watchtower society makes out the mighty angel in 10:1 who stands on the sea and earth is jesus christ, and that the contents of the little scroll he hands john is a prophecy to be fulfilled after 1914. to grasp the simple truth that the strong angel in 10:1 is the angel alluded to in 1:1, and that the little scroll is actually the scroll which has been progressively unsealed in 6:1 to 8:1, was very satisfying.
it describes the revelation being given to john, which contains the main content of the prophetic work!.
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Rapunzel
J,C. - By entitling her book The Widow'sMight, it is obvious that Cherie Brown was making an ironic allusion to Jesus' parable of the widow's mite. In other words, she was making a pun. She was punning on the two words, which are homophones; they are two different words, with different spellings and different meanings. Two other pairs of homophones are flour/flower and for/four. Come to think of it, there is also pear/pair and root/route. You can't write here when you mean hear. And it would be a mistake to confuse they're [a contraction of "they are"] with their [a possessive adjective] or there [an adverb denoting location or spatial position].
There are, in fact, many homophonic pairings in English. The word, homophone, is comprised of the Greek prefix - homo - meaning "the same," and phone, which means "sound" [a telephone is a device which enables you to hear "sounds" from "afar" - tele. The Greek word, phone, emphasizes that, in regard to homophones, the crucial issue is sound. In spoken spoken speech - in oral conversation/discourse - there is no difference in the way homophones are pronounced. But, let's imagine a situation in which a buxom woman walks by holding a certain piece of delcious-looking fruit. Someone might then exclaim - "Man, she has a nice..." How do I finish this written sentence? With which written word do I finish it? What do I write now, pair or pear? In spoken speech, it doesn't matter which one I have in mind as long as I am correct in my pronunciation. In writing, - under normal circumstances - a person is forced to choose one word of the two in homophonic pairings, to the exclusion of the other. In certain circumstances, however, it is possible for a clever person to "have it both ways." He or she is able to conflate or combine the denotations of both words in the pair. This is what Brown did in the title of her book.
Brown wrote her book as an inspiration for other women suffering the trauma of widowhood. Brown's book was an inspirational one. In using her title, The Widow'sMight, Brown was engaging in word-play. She knew exactly what she was doing. On the other hand, you, my friend, made an error. You confused the word might with its homophone, mite. I'm willing to bet that there is no English-language version of the Bible which uses the word might in this parable. There is no "alternative common usage" of the two words in "popular culture" [By the way, I am not at all clear on what you mean by "alternative common usage." Are you saying that might is a commonly accepted variant of the word mite? I don't think so. The word might [in its two usages as a noun meaning "strength" or "power,' and as a verb] no doubt appears more commonly [more often] than the word mite, but the two words remain two distinct words.
You write: "I wonder if spelled as 'might' [it????] misconveys
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A revelation for me: the revelation of Revelation
by Eyes Open ini was reading the thread about revelation, and some research i did on the beginning of chapter 10 of the apocalyptic book came to mind, so i thought i'd share it here in case anyone's interested.. as an ignorant jehovah's witness, i had no idea of the real literary structure of the book.
the watchtower society makes out the mighty angel in 10:1 who stands on the sea and earth is jesus christ, and that the contents of the little scroll he hands john is a prophecy to be fulfilled after 1914. to grasp the simple truth that the strong angel in 10:1 is the angel alluded to in 1:1, and that the little scroll is actually the scroll which has been progressively unsealed in 6:1 to 8:1, was very satisfying.
it describes the revelation being given to john, which contains the main content of the prophetic work!.
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J.C. - Although I thank you for your response, I really do find myself obliged to take issue with it. You state that my argument is incompetent. Sorry, but the adjective, 'incompetent," can only refer to a person. The adjective, "incompetent," refers to a person who is wanting [or lacking] in ability, skills, qualifications etc; it refers to a person who is not competent. Ud. comprende, vato?
Now, if you had said that I [Rapunzel] was incompetent - in say, biblical exegesis, or textual criticism, or whatever endeavor; field of study; discipline - then that would have been o.k. Many people would have agreed with you. But, to say my argument is incompetent, well...that's just plain unacceptable!!!! One could posit that my argument was weak, or flawed, or specious, but not "incompetent." You could claim that I am incompetent in my reasoning.
I noticed that you made a similar egregious error in a prior post in which you referred to the parable of the "widow's might [sic]." Once again, I'm sorry to say it, but the word you were looking for was mite.
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Did the Bible really predict or say anything of substance?
by moshe ini often read comments like this about the bible here:.
well, the bible is the only source we have for guidance and direction.
if you read it you will know that such knowledge and wisdom could not have originated with man because more times than none, man acts in opposition to what is written in the bible.. it also foretells the future.
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Narkissos - Je vous remercie infiniement d'avoir bien voulu repondre a ma question! Thank you very much for having answered my first question. I hereby stand humbly corrected. The word messiah does appear in the book of Isaiah, in the first verse of chapter 45. For complicated reasons that I cannot explain, I currently do not have access to a Bible concordance. And I currently have no way of getting to a library. So, once again Narkissos, I thank you
Although the verse, Isaiah 45:1 appears outside of the passage originally cited by BurnTheShips, the verse quite obviously falls within the so-called "Second Isaiah," that is to say chapters 40 through 55. The chapters of the "Second Isaiah" [chapters 40 through 55] presupose a situation in which the southern kingdom has been destroyed and the people taken into exile in Babylon in the mid-sixth century B.C.E. Hence, verse 45:1 which speaks of Cyrus.
The "Second Isaiah" could not be the work of the same author(s) who wrote the "First Isaiah," that is to say chapters 1 through 39. These earlier chapters presuppose a situation in which Assyria is set to attack Judah in the eighth century B.C.E.
Although they presuppose very different situations, both the "First" and the "Second Isaiah contain similar prophetic themes, so they were combined at a later date into one scroll. And then someone added chapters 56 through 66, from yet a later prophet [the "Third Isaiah] who wrote in still another context.
Now that my first question has been so graciously answered, could someone please respond to my second and third questions?
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A revelation for me: the revelation of Revelation
by Eyes Open ini was reading the thread about revelation, and some research i did on the beginning of chapter 10 of the apocalyptic book came to mind, so i thought i'd share it here in case anyone's interested.. as an ignorant jehovah's witness, i had no idea of the real literary structure of the book.
the watchtower society makes out the mighty angel in 10:1 who stands on the sea and earth is jesus christ, and that the contents of the little scroll he hands john is a prophecy to be fulfilled after 1914. to grasp the simple truth that the strong angel in 10:1 is the angel alluded to in 1:1, and that the little scroll is actually the scroll which has been progressively unsealed in 6:1 to 8:1, was very satisfying.
it describes the revelation being given to john, which contains the main content of the prophetic work!.
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White Dove - I really fail to comprehend how you could contend that the "authors" [I notice that you pluralize the noun. Do you have any evidence that there was more than one person involved in the writing of the Book of Revelations?] were on "acid." The drug to which you refer to as "acid" [a.k.a., LSD] was synthesized in a laboratory in the 1950's or 1960's. In fact, wasn't it Timothy Leary who synthesized it? Well, at least it was he who popularized it. In any case, it is surely the case that there was no L.S.D. before the middle of the twentieth century. It simply did not exist before then; and it does not appear in nature.
In fact, there is nothing "psychedelic" about apocalptic literature. As I mentioned in my previous post, apocalyptic literature as a literary genre goes back far in history. Both Christian and Jewish authors wrote in the apocalyptic manner. Apocalyptic writing especially came into vogue, became popular around the time of the Maccabean revolt. The book of Daniel is an example of apocalypticism in Jewish writing. Although modern readers find the imagery and symbolism quite strange, this was assuredly not the case for ancient readers. Ancient readers, both Jewish and Christian, were very familiar with apocalyptic writings. There exist many examples of the apocalyptic genre outside of the Bible.
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A revelation for me: the revelation of Revelation
by Eyes Open ini was reading the thread about revelation, and some research i did on the beginning of chapter 10 of the apocalyptic book came to mind, so i thought i'd share it here in case anyone's interested.. as an ignorant jehovah's witness, i had no idea of the real literary structure of the book.
the watchtower society makes out the mighty angel in 10:1 who stands on the sea and earth is jesus christ, and that the contents of the little scroll he hands john is a prophecy to be fulfilled after 1914. to grasp the simple truth that the strong angel in 10:1 is the angel alluded to in 1:1, and that the little scroll is actually the scroll which has been progressively unsealed in 6:1 to 8:1, was very satisfying.
it describes the revelation being given to john, which contains the main content of the prophetic work!.
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Rapunzel
The last book of the Christian scriptures - the Book of Revelation [also called the Apocalypse of John] is just one of many written "apocalypses." In addition to the Apocalypse of John, there are manuscripts containing "apocalypses" supposedly written in the name of Moses; Elijah; Adam; Isaiah; Peter; Paul; Enoch; and Baruch. There are many manuscripts featuring apocalypses outside of the Bible. It is just that the Apocalypse of John was the only apocalypse to be accepted into the Christian canon.
The Apocalypse of John was part of a literary genre; it was a certain kind of literature. Although, with its bizarre visions and symbolism difficult to interpret, the Apocalypse of John seems odd to many modern readers. it would not have seemed at all odd to ancient readers in that it shares many well-recognized literary conventions with other apocalypses and apocalyptic literature. As with any other literary gennre - any other type of literature - it is possible to study apocalyptic literature [including "John's" apocalypse] as a literary genre. The term, apocalypse, comes from the Greek word meaning an "unveiling" or a "revealing." The authors of the various aocalypses felt that God had revealed or had unveiled to them heavenly secrets that could explain earthly realities.
Apocalyptic literature is dualistic in its cosmological view in that it sees the Earth and the cosmos as battlegrounds for the forces of Good and Evil. Apocalyptic literature is also pessimistic because apocalypticists do not think that humans are capable of bringing the Kingdom of God into the world on their own. Apocalyptic literature features some sort of vindication due God's intervention in the affairs of the world. And lastly, apocalyptic literature features immanence in that, for apocalytic authors vindication was imminent - that is to say right around the corner, in the immediate future.
This last point is crucial. The apocalyptic authors were speaking solely and uniquely to people of their own day. These authors were not crystal-ball-gazing into eras thousands of years removed from them. These authors were addressing the immediate fears and concerns of the people living in their day and age. The apocalyptic authors decidedly did NOT have us - people living in the twenty-first century - in mind when they wrote their stories and recorded their visions.
It is indeed naive and erroneous on the part of people living in our era to believe that the Apoclypse of John, or the book of Daniel, or any other apocalypse, was written with a concern for our future. It is ridiculous and inane to believe that the Apocalypse of John concerns what will happen when, history as we know it, comes screeching to a halt and heavenly trumpets start to blare. Many people living in our twenty-first century harbor the pernicious, dangerous delusion that apocalyptic literature such as the book of Daniel and the Apocalyse of John were written with us explicitly in mind, as if all of history were somehow been progressing toward our era, as if we were somehow the climax - the grand finale - of all that has happened so far. What utter and vile nonsense; it's pure tripe. Apocalyptic literature contains no prophecy that will come true in the future. In fact, the only thing that it contains is failed prophecy that was not achieved in the past, as the so-called "prophets" had hoped and promised.
In the preceding paragraph, I was perhaps a little too hard on the many people of our twent-first century who believe that the Apocalypse of John as written with our era in mind. After all,it's true that people have always assumed that this book, and other apocalyptic literature, were referring to their own time. Every generation - from day one - which has read such literature has considered it as concerned with its respective era. For every generation, apocalyptic literature has served as foreshadowing of events to come.
As a final note, the writer supposedly named "John." who wrote the book of Revelations, is not the same writer who wrote the gospel of John. Leaving the obvious theological differences aside, there are also obvious philological or linguistic differences. In the original Greek, the two writers display clearly different styles of writing. Moreover, for the author of the gospel, Greek was evidently his native language in which he was fluent; whereas the Apocalypse is not particularly well written and is the work of someone whose native language is not Greek.
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WHEN DO JWS BELIEVE NATIVE AMERICANS CAME TO AMERICA?
by badboy inrecent discoveries indicate native american were present from 14,300 years ago.. what do jws make of that?.
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As far as I know, the entire issue of when and how the Native Americans first came to North America is totally "off the radar screen" of the Witnesses, that is to say that they are utterly unconcerned with the question. After all, how many dubs are really into paleotology, archeology, or paleo-anthropology? I mean, it's not as if dubs flock by the droves to excavation sites. They're too busy lapping up the wisdom as dispensed by the faithful and discete slave.
As I know, the Mormons entertain the curious notion that Jesus [or is it some other bible character?] visited North America and preached to the native tribes. I'm hesitant to say it, because I'm really not all that "up" on Mormon doctrine, but isn't it one of their beliefs that the Native American tribes are the so-called "lost" tribes of Israel? I'm not really too sure at all if that is indeed one of the Mormons' doctrines. I do know that, throughout history, various ethnic groups, cultures and "races" have either been designated as representing the "lost tribes," or else they have declared that they themselves are the "lost tribes" of Israel.
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Jesus never existed!
by Layla33 indisclaimer: i am writing this topic to give another side to the debate on jesus christ.
i think it would interesting to hear the claims that suggest that he never truly existed.
not an attack, just thought it would be an interesting topic to read the research that challenges it.. was jesus of nazareth a real historical person?
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Kutbethel, you wrote, in regard to the persona or character named Jesus - "Even if he never existed, he would have been invented anyway." Good point! That is exactly what the French philosophe, Voltaire, wrote: "Si Dieu n'existait pas, il faudrait l'inventer" ["If God didn't exist, He would have to be invented"]. Or, by slightlly altering the verb tenses, one could say: "Si Dieu n'avait pas existe, il aurait fallu l'inventer" [If God had not existed, he would have had to have been invented"].
In fact, if one were to believe Carl Jung, the idea of Jesus was present in the minds of humans long, long before he appeared in stories about 2,000 years ago. According to Jung, and his theories of archetypes, since the beginning of the species homo sapiens, humans possess innate, inborn patterns of thought called archetypes. These "archetypes" have manifested themselves in the literature [first oral, and then written] of all societies and all cultures from time immemorial. Example of such "archetyes" are The Scapegoat, The Harrowing of Hell, The Devouring Mother, The Hero, and The Savior [or Redeemer]. The "archetypes" are imagistic "stamps" on the human psyche. These archetypes manifest themselves in varying ways in different cultures and different historica eras, but they do find a way of manifesting themselves. They appear in all literature; and they appeared in the oral traditions of pre-literate peoples. In the mythology of many peoples, we find examples of a "god" who dies and is then resurrected. Often, this "god" has a "virgin" as a mother. It was inevitable that such a "savior archetye" would appear in Christian mythology.The Argentinian writer, Borges, once wrote that throughout all of human history, all stories have been merely variations of two Stories - the Story of Odysseus and the Story of Golgotha. These two stories - the Story of Wandering followed by a settling/return home, and the story of Redemption - are really at the heart of all other stories. As the mythologist, Joseph Cambell, pointed out, it is a question of The Hero With a Thousand Faces.
As a final note, Voltaire also wrote: "If God has created us in his image, we have returned the favor."