watchtower teachings say this period is from 607 bce to 537 bce.
most of the documentation relating to the seventy years indicates that period to be 609 bce to 539 bce, the rule of the babylonian empire.
i wrote to headquarters, because as a bible study student i knew i could ask questions about certain doctrines that those baptized cannot without consequence and some of the information i received from them was very helpful especially when it was used to verify the chronology of the kings of judah and israel through the bible.. the bible says there are actually (2) 70-year periods.. the first being one of servitude to the babylonians of both israel & judah from 609 bce to 539 bce.
Another question JC,
Concerning the construction of the temple, Your earlier post said the temple construction took 22 years. If the foundation was laid when the Jews returned from Babylon, and then there was a 16 year period of no construction renewed again in the second year of Darius, and completed in the 6th year, could that account for the 22 year period needed to build the temple? Solomon built the original temple in 7 years.
watchtower teachings say this period is from 607 bce to 537 bce.
most of the documentation relating to the seventy years indicates that period to be 609 bce to 539 bce, the rule of the babylonian empire.
i wrote to headquarters, because as a bible study student i knew i could ask questions about certain doctrines that those baptized cannot without consequence and some of the information i received from them was very helpful especially when it was used to verify the chronology of the kings of judah and israel through the bible.. the bible says there are actually (2) 70-year periods.. the first being one of servitude to the babylonians of both israel & judah from 609 bce to 539 bce.
JC,
I'm confused.......If Cyrus conquered the Medes and took the title King of Persia in the 6th year of Nabonidus before Babylon was conquered, how did Darius the Mede, become ruler over Babylon when it was first conquered?
watchtower teachings say this period is from 607 bce to 537 bce.
most of the documentation relating to the seventy years indicates that period to be 609 bce to 539 bce, the rule of the babylonian empire.
i wrote to headquarters, because as a bible study student i knew i could ask questions about certain doctrines that those baptized cannot without consequence and some of the information i received from them was very helpful especially when it was used to verify the chronology of the kings of judah and israel through the bible.. the bible says there are actually (2) 70-year periods.. the first being one of servitude to the babylonians of both israel & judah from 609 bce to 539 bce.
scholar,
I do respect your beliefs. I am also aware of the JW full timeline and Bibilical differences. I know the history as taught by the JWs on this topic. I have rejected it based on all the information I was provided from JW headquarters, the chronology of kings as evidenced in the Bible, historical references and the education I have received from this forum to help me sort out what I need to know. As a matter of fact, the JW history was the 1st history I had ever had and it was the driving force that has sent me on this journey.....to understand the Bible and to eventually find "the truth." For that I am grateful. I am taking positive steps to grow closer to God.
Proverbs 2:1-6 My son, if you will receive my sayings and treasure up my own commandments with yourself, so as to pay attention to wisdom with your ear that may incline your heart to discernment; If, moreover, you call out for understanding itself and you give forth your voice for discernment itself, if you keep seeking for it as for silver and as for hid treasures you keep searching for it, in that case you will understand the fear of Jehovah, and you find the very knowledge of God. For Jehovah himself gives wisdom; out of his mouth there are knowledge and discernment.
AddaGirl
watchtower teachings say this period is from 607 bce to 537 bce.
most of the documentation relating to the seventy years indicates that period to be 609 bce to 539 bce, the rule of the babylonian empire.
i wrote to headquarters, because as a bible study student i knew i could ask questions about certain doctrines that those baptized cannot without consequence and some of the information i received from them was very helpful especially when it was used to verify the chronology of the kings of judah and israel through the bible.. the bible says there are actually (2) 70-year periods.. the first being one of servitude to the babylonians of both israel & judah from 609 bce to 539 bce.
JC,
Only one point. I have much to look up. Cyrus assumed his fathers throne in 559 BCE but had to recognize the Mede ownership. Nabonidus took the thrown in 556 BCE. Cyrus overthrew the Medes in 550/549 which was the 6th year of Nabonidus, took the title King of Persia and ruled 10 years before becoming king over Babylon.
i am a jehovahs witness.
my family are all witnesses.
i am convinced it is not the religion it once was.
If its proved that 1914 does not exist, anything like 1919 also does not exist. This is one of the main reasons they protect 607 BCE and 1914.
Their growth rate is low.....but how about the average exit rate wihich is statistically the highest of all religions at 32% . I checked with my teacher and an elder. That 7,000,000 number includes all who have ever been baptized including those who are disfellowshipped and all who have chosen to leave of their own accord. That 7,000,000 number becomes 4,760,000 really fast. The Mormans are almost 3 times the size at 13,000,000.
watchtower teachings say this period is from 607 bce to 537 bce.
most of the documentation relating to the seventy years indicates that period to be 609 bce to 539 bce, the rule of the babylonian empire.
i wrote to headquarters, because as a bible study student i knew i could ask questions about certain doctrines that those baptized cannot without consequence and some of the information i received from them was very helpful especially when it was used to verify the chronology of the kings of judah and israel through the bible.. the bible says there are actually (2) 70-year periods.. the first being one of servitude to the babylonians of both israel & judah from 609 bce to 539 bce.
scholar,
I haven't figured out where you are coming from yet. I believe there is a component of servitude to Babylon, backed up by both Bible Scripture, Antiquities of the Jews X and Flavius Joseph Against Apion. I do realize that the final edict against Babylon did occur after the fall of Babylon but when the final edict of Babylon occurred, there was no king of Babylon. Nabonidus, or his son Belshazzar was the last king of Babylon and Jeremiah 27:6-7 clearly states that "and now I myself have given all these lands into the hand of Nebuchadnezzar the king of Babylon my servant and even the wild beasts of the field I have given him to serve. And all the nations must serve even him and his son and his grandson until the time even of his own land comes, and many nations and great kings must exploit him as servant. The sovereign rule of Babylon was 609 BCE, (the last Assyrian king Ashur Urbilitt II fell to Babylon) until their own defeat by the Medes and Persians in 539 BCE.
The 10 tribes of Israel became servant when Assyria fell, Zedekiah was a vassal king for Nebuchadnezzar, serving him 11 years before the revolt that felled Jerusalem, and allowed to stay on his land if he did not revolt.
(Antiquities of the Jews X Chapter 7 paragraph 3) Jeremiah prophesied that Nebuchadnezzar would take Judah if they revolted and they would serve him and his posterity for 70 years having their servitude ended when the Medes and Persians overthrew Babylon. It says they will be exiled only if they revolt.
I get that you think I am incorrect but you do not state what you believe to be correct for me to understand your point.
Adda
i'm a jw in good standing.i was born a jw.my dad was an elder for about 15 years but he stoped going to the hall about 3 years ago.but i have doubts about the org.basically i don't think that we are living in the end,i don't think the earth will ever be a paradise.it really don't seem logical to me.anyway i feel like i'm having an inner fight between what i was raised to be and what i now believe.the only reason why i still go to the meeting is because of my mom and husband.i came here because i think that everyone here can help me.
Welcome insearchof,
I too am a newbie. Circumstances differ because I am an unbaptized almost former student looking for the truth but dealing with the confusion that the JWs teach and perpetuate is the same. I have found just by reading the posts, saying nothing, that this group of people listens very well and when you ask specific questions that are really bothering you, you will get responses meant sincerely to help you find information that may get you on the right track or help you find your own thoughts just by venting your confusion. Keep coming back. You'll find a certain peace in that you are not alone. There are many of us looking for "the truth."
watchtower teachings say this period is from 607 bce to 537 bce.
most of the documentation relating to the seventy years indicates that period to be 609 bce to 539 bce, the rule of the babylonian empire.
i wrote to headquarters, because as a bible study student i knew i could ask questions about certain doctrines that those baptized cannot without consequence and some of the information i received from them was very helpful especially when it was used to verify the chronology of the kings of judah and israel through the bible.. the bible says there are actually (2) 70-year periods.. the first being one of servitude to the babylonians of both israel & judah from 609 bce to 539 bce.
JCanon,
Regarding Zechariah 1:7--Zechariah is prophesying.
Zechariah 1:16 Therefore this is what Jehovah has said, "I shall certainly return to Jerusalem with mercies. My own house will be built in her......" Completed in the 6th year of Darius
watchtower teachings say this period is from 607 bce to 537 bce.
most of the documentation relating to the seventy years indicates that period to be 609 bce to 539 bce, the rule of the babylonian empire.
i wrote to headquarters, because as a bible study student i knew i could ask questions about certain doctrines that those baptized cannot without consequence and some of the information i received from them was very helpful especially when it was used to verify the chronology of the kings of judah and israel through the bible.. the bible says there are actually (2) 70-year periods.. the first being one of servitude to the babylonians of both israel & judah from 609 bce to 539 bce.
Narkissos,
Leviticus does not elude to 70 years at all for the desolation to pay its sabbaths.
2Chronicles 36:21-23 clearly show that the land being desolated was to fulfill 70 years not for 70 years
1Chonicles 4:21--right scripture?
JCanon,
I don't know what to say. Maybe Isaac Newton knew more that all the expert historians, the Bible and even the JWs who state that Darius the Mede never existed as a king. Gobryas, the general that took charge for Cyrus initially (born in 601 BCE) was 62 at the time Cyrus overthrew Babylon. Darius was 19 at the time. Also Darius the Mede means "Holder of the Sceptor", a position that Gobryas held for Cyrus.
Daniel 5:30-31 In that very night Belshazzar the Chaldean king was killed and Darius the Mede himself received the kingdom being about 62 years old.
watchtower teachings say this period is from 607 bce to 537 bce.
most of the documentation relating to the seventy years indicates that period to be 609 bce to 539 bce, the rule of the babylonian empire.
i wrote to headquarters, because as a bible study student i knew i could ask questions about certain doctrines that those baptized cannot without consequence and some of the information i received from them was very helpful especially when it was used to verify the chronology of the kings of judah and israel through the bible.. the bible says there are actually (2) 70-year periods.. the first being one of servitude to the babylonians of both israel & judah from 609 bce to 539 bce.
Narkissos,
Could you consider that the land was paying for its sabbaths with no house of Jehovah on the land for 70 years?
