Data Dog it is significant however that the Ebionites, those Jewish Christians who chose to follow Jesus as their Greatest Sage rather than Christianity, did in fact view Jesus as a human manifestation of the Archangel Michael. This is coming from a man who speaks and reads Hebrew and can't stand Jehovah's Witnesses.
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Just had a blow up with jw mom and she said the bible referenced angels being called gods, it that true?
by Question_Mans_interpretation inlong story short my mom was acting weird, snubbing me, when i tried bringing her grandkids to see her, so i tried again and this time i just went up and hugged her since she wouldn't hug me or acknowledge any affection.
when i released her i immediately saw her annoyed look and asked what?
bang, she unleashes a floodgate of how she's still mad at me for going to another church that believes the trinity.
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The GB teaches witnesses to be disobediant and dishonest
by stuckinarut2 ini was just thinking that it seems like the gb teaches witnesses to be dishonest and disobediant...and encourages a kind of "secret agent" mystique about such conduct.
a boldness to act this way.. they use "theocratic warfare" tactics by saying we can be dishonest with authorities if we are acting by "gods standards..".. they teach parents to do the same with their kids...teach them to outrightly disobey laws "if they contravene the gb standards" (eg flag salute, voting in politics etc...).
it is ok to lie about "future fairy tale paradise".
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Afrikanman what do you think of Fela Kuti? Marcus Garvey and Fela Kuti are the only African Libertarians I can think of. -
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Here at last, My JC letter. No response but heard thru the grapevine that I was DA'd anyways.
by Question_Mans_interpretation inhello all, i finally got around to posting my letter to my judicial committee meeting requests.
sorry its kind of long, it came to 4 pages because of the special meeting requests.
tuesday january 28, 2014.
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You should have nailed it to the door of the Kingdom Hall like Martin Luther!
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Why the JW's mental image of Paradise is a pipe dream
by Sour Grapes inyesterday during the witchtower study, every one was.
talking about how wonderful paradise will be with no food.
shortages, perfect weather, no pollution, no disease, and be.
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I was watching a lecture about the Theology of JRR Tolkiens' world and the elves never died or aged, but in their immortality they became depressed weary of life, of seeing other living things die or even go extinct. That is why they would still fight for the right thing hoping to gloriously end it all. Death was even called 'The gift of men.' It is strange that the Western view of reincarnation is triumphal in providing a more rational explanation of the metaphor of resurrection (some fundamentalist Mormons even call it baby resurrection), while in the Dharmic tradition the goal of reincarnation is to escape the painful cycle of death and rebirth. The Kingdom is something to build in the here and now, not waiting for Jehovah.
Vidiot there was more Zoroastrian thought cribbed by Old Testament writers than anything. Mormonism is fascinating because it somehow goes full circle and brings a lot of Zoroastrian themes back into Christianity.
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World becoming more religious not less
by Stealth inthis is bad news for the evolution of humankind.
even worse, islam is the fastest growing religion.
http://www.livescience.com/50370-worlds-religious-population-will-grow.html?cmpid=nl_ls_weekly_2015-04-03 .
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I admit it, I believe in evolution.
by Louise inafter leaving the dub religion behind, i read everything that i could get my hands on, be it about other religions, beliefs, gods, occult, evolution - you name it - i read it.
i did this to 'catch up' and to educate myself, so that when i can to a decision it would be an intellectual / educational one.
not just because some book or person told me to believe it.. i have over time and with reading aids come to totally believe and accept evolution.
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In matters that are obscure and far beyond our vision, even as we may find treated in holy scripture, different interpretations are sometimes possible without prejudice to the faith we have received. In such a case, we should not rush in headlong, and take our stand on one side that, if further progress in the search of truth justly undermines this position, we too fall with it. That would be not to battle for the Holy Scripture but for our own, wishing its teaching to conform to ours. -St. Augustine
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These guys crash a Kingdom Hall on Memorial, video included
by Crazyguy inhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=7mars2mtaui.
to funny nice job....
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As the spouse of a JW, who never believed, I say you guys rock. They deserve to get their ritual hijacked. All the pain they cause and then the JWs mock the eucharist? Could have recited the right scriptures and had an even louder voice. Did it feed into the persecution complex of the JWs, sure it did, but Jesus Christ fed the persecution complex of the Jews when he mashed up the moneychangers, so in a way he was doing what Jesus would do, sorta. -
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The Bible Gods Word or Mans
by azor ini remember studying this book years ago and how it impacted my belief system.
i no longer believe the bible is god's word.
however i do have a couple of lingering questions on this subject.
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As I have written elsewhere the JWs have all the guilt of Catholicism without any of the Beautiful Bells and Whistles, all the paranoia and tribalism of Judaism without any of the respect for dissent, all the intolerance of Islam without any of the valor. They represent everything wrong with Abrahamic religion, which is why they can claim to be persecuted. All the other Abrahamic religions see their own flaws magnified in the Jehovah's Witnesses, which is why for an ex-JW giving up on God completely after the JWs is the usual reaction. -
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Article: Five JWs Deported from Bali for Conducting Door-to-Door Religious Ministry
by AndersonsInfo inhttp://www.balidiscovery.com/messages/message.asp?id=11719.
dismantling the watchtower .
five jehovah witnesses deported from bali for conducting door-to-door religious ministry .
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They should have gone to Papua. Anything that diverts the Papuans from raising the Morning Star Flag would have made them the darlings of the police over there, I imagine. -
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Natural Selection in Religions
by Victor ini recently developed an interest in examining the origins of religion.
so what i've gathered so far is this.
the human mind needs to create an explanation and meaning.
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There's a lot of financial security in joining moribund cults, just look at Father Divine. They don't have enough followers to take care of their real estate. I hope that's where the JWs are in 100 years.
Find a celibacy cult with lots of real estate and no chance of mass suicide. There are the Shakers, the House of David in Benton Harbor Michigan, can anyone name any others?