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  The Hope For Our Dying Home-Earth...An Inconvenient Truth

  by justhuman in

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  yesterday it was the day of the global inviroment.

  as i walked to the street going to work, the main square of the capitol was filled with small children and their teachers with huge paintings, songs, art work with recycled elements demanding a cleaner plannet.

  when the old generation will pass those little ones that will take in charge with all the inviromental education they had they will go for a better world.i'm sure about it, you could see it in their small eyes.

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  Besides, this world is going to burn anyway.

  Technically, that's true... in a few billion years when the sun becomes a red giant and engulfs us. Sooner if we get hit by a GRB.
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  WHY disregard "ANECDOTAL" evidence?

  by hamsterbait in

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  in many threads i constantly hear the complaint that personal experience cannot be regarded as proof because it is not scientific.. but when should such experience be useful?

  why listen to it at all?.

  for example - i have been doing mantra meditation for several months now.

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  Farkel: Your example is also a good example of a false dilemma: presenting only one possible conclusion from a fact, when there may be more than one.

  I think that's the problem with isolated anecdotal evidence.

  It's not that anecdotal evidence is invalid or worthless. But all too often the false dilemma arises from isolated anecdotal evidence.

  "A black man robbed my convenience store. Blacks are all a bunch of thugs."

  "Look at all these people claiming they have been abducted by aliens. It must really be happening."

  "This soup is terrible. This restaurant sucks." etc.

  Note that the conclusion may still be true; it's simply that the anecdotal evidence was insufficient to make that conclusion. The restaurant may indeed suck; but that can't be judged based on one bad bowl of soup.

  Thus, in any scientifically conducted study, multiple trials are necessary. A drug working on a single person is weak anecdotal evidence. A drug working on 95% of a group of 1,000 participants is anecdotal evidence amplified by enough orders of magnitude to be considered objective empirical evidence. The difference is that you're reducing the level of subjectivity, the margin of error, the amount of faith required to accept a conclusion.
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  EXPLAIN THIS.......Real, mystical, or what?

  by journey-on in

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  all the talk on recent threads about what is real and what is beyond the explainable made me decide to reveal something that happened to me.

  i usually keep these things close to the vest, because i truly do believe in the phrase: "he that knows does not speak.

  he that speaks does not know.

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  How many people have won lotteries when the odds were millions to one against them?

  Were all of these due to mystical or spiritual influences?

  Extend the law of large numbers to other areas of life. How many people have had incredibly unlikely things happen to them at a seemingly significant time in a seemingly significant way?

  I've given the example of the friend who was praying to God to show her the way when the JWs knocked on the door.

  Some may say "well it could have been what she needed at the time."

  Such bogus reasoning assumes that some mystical force is trying to help us... what about the infant on the other side of the world who that moment died of malnutrition?

  Hundreds of thousands of JWs visit millions of houses every day. A certain small percentage of those houses will contain a person asking God for help.

  Millions of people every day ask God to show them a sign. Millions find the answers in whatever tickles their fancy.

  Bible-God would tell in advance what he was going to do and then do it. He allegedly gave an unmistakable sign that Aaron was to be high priest when his rod budded. He allegedly consumed Elijah's sacrifice with fire from the sky. That'd probably make me a believer, too.

  If mystical phenomena is also real, it follows that this real phenomena should behave like other real phenomena and have a certain level of predictability and reproducibility.

  Journey-on, your thread title says explain this... I'd chalk it up to coincidence no matter how bizarre the name of the waitress was. What, did she obtain that name only minutes before you came into the restaurant, in response to your cosmic inquiry? Or had she had that name all her life, and today was simply the day she coincidentally met someone to whom that name had a particular significance?

  I am completely open to the possibility of there being more going on in this universe than we're aware of, but for the most part the "evidence" offered of mystical phenomena simply does not qualify as genuine.
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  Ever have a paranormal event in your life, please share?

  by free2beme in

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  i am one who believes strongly in the spirit realm, paranormal activity, etc.

  even with such a strong belief, i am often told by skeptics that such things are foolish and nonsense.

  while i accept people have the right to feel however they want, i have often shared stories with people that are hard to explain with logic and find others have events like this too.

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  Reminds me of the video about Bigfoot from Futurama...

  "Bigfoot populations require vast amounts of land to remain elusive in. They typically dwell just behind rocks but are also sometimes playful, bounding into thick fogs and out-of-focus areas."
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  Middle School

  by sass_my_frass in

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  just a quick question: what is 'middle school'?

  what age?.

  cheers.

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  Middle school, 7th grade, was when I started public school.
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  Personal Decision,

  by PureAlb in

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  hi people,,,what i mean about personal decision is that, if someone wants to believe what they really want, what will the problem be, so why do some people have to question their beliefs and their type of life.

  wouldn't it be better if we try to respect everyones life, no meter how they do it.

  hope that you all get my point...

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  PureAlb: wether u ppl agree or not JWs do have high standards,and i do not think they preach hate, they just follow the Bible.

  Couple of points here:

  1. JWs do not follow the Bible, they follow the interpretation of the Bible provided by the WTS corporation, to their own detriment and that of those around them.

  2. What causes you to believe the Bible is a good thing to follow?
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  Ever have a paranormal event in your life, please share?

  by free2beme in

  1. jw
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  i am one who believes strongly in the spirit realm, paranormal activity, etc.

  even with such a strong belief, i am often told by skeptics that such things are foolish and nonsense.

  while i accept people have the right to feel however they want, i have often shared stories with people that are hard to explain with logic and find others have events like this too.

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  LoneRanger: I won't mention them all because others just think your crazy, so its best you keep it to yourself.

  Interesting logic there, everyone thought Galileo was crazy (or worse), he probably shoulda kept his discovery to himself.

  Newsflash: Others already think you're crazy, unless somehow you've managed to hide in a cave all your life.

  If nobody thinks you're crazy you have not interacted with anyone. If you are not pissing people off it is only because you are not doing anything. If nobody holds a grudge against you you've never been successful.

  By the way, a HUGE proportion of the general public believes in paranormal phenomena, so any ridicule you'd receive for sharing an experience would be from a minority group.

  Personally, I'm quite interested in the paranormal but have simply not seen convincing evidence for any of it. The stories are great. It would be neat if some of it turned out to be true. I feel the probability of that is low, but new evidence is always welcome.
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  Ever have a paranormal event in your life, please share?

  by free2beme in

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  i am one who believes strongly in the spirit realm, paranormal activity, etc.

  even with such a strong belief, i am often told by skeptics that such things are foolish and nonsense.

  while i accept people have the right to feel however they want, i have often shared stories with people that are hard to explain with logic and find others have events like this too.

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  I have a friend who was crying and praying to God to show her the right way to go, when DING-DONG the doorbell rings... yep it's the Witnesses.

  Next 20 years of her life are wasted in a mind control cult.

  Boy that supernatural intervention sure does screw some folk over somthin fierce, huh?
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  Dalai Lama's 18 Rules for Living

  by AK - Jeff in

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  dalai lamas 18 rules for livingat the start of the new millennium the dalai lama apparently issued eighteen rules for living.

  since word travels slowly in the digital age these have only just reached me.

  here they are.. take into account that great love and great achievements involve great risk.

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  Snopes says the Dalai Lama is a hoax... apparently he was created by McDonalds in the 70's as a Mcdonaldland character, he was so popular he was spun off into his own religion. Who knew?
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  Better see this while you still can!

  by winnower in

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  i don't think it will stay very long!

  this will be the most incredible thing you have ever seen.

  it is awesome and shocking.

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  This has nothing to do with the earthquake.

  This happened in Idaho, amazingly with no earthquake following.