Thanks, Doubting Bro!
Try to have the Watchtower from February 15, 1927 at hand. It explains the "New light" almost exactly as thwy are explaining it now, 80 years later...
TTRP
hey guys!.
i can't wait to tell you something that happened last night.
in order to understarnd it, let me give you some details about me first: i'm still an elder, with my wife and the whole family and friends inside the borg.
Thanks, Doubting Bro!
Try to have the Watchtower from February 15, 1927 at hand. It explains the "New light" almost exactly as thwy are explaining it now, 80 years later...
TTRP
guys: .
im posting this, because i need to share my experience with all of you.
i think it is very important to never loose hope, and never give up, even if youre still inside the borg, like me!!.
Guys:
I’m posting this, because I need to share my experience with all of you. I think it is very important to NEVER loose hope, and NEVER GIVE UP, even if you’re still inside the Borg, like me!!
As you know, it took me about 6 months to set my wife free of the cult, at least mentally for the moment. - (Read the whole story here: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/150900/2750241/post.ashx#2750241 )
I think that we broke that record this week!!
My wife and I spent about 2 days, and my sister–in-law is out now!!! I’ve never seen somebody using her brain like she did. She’s brilliant! Let me explain:
Some months ago, I noticed something strange when my sis-in-law told me in a private conversation: “there are things in the KH that I don’t like. Elders are acting like the Pharisees, just giving orders”… So, after my wife “woke up” recently, I told her about that conversation. So, we decided to invite her to stay in our home for a couple of days, and try to see if she was receptive…
It was just great! First, my wife spent many hours talking with her alone, one time until 3:00 am. She was stunned! Next day, it was my turn. I had printed copies from some old WT publications, and letters (info about the UN scandal, 607/587/1914 issue, misquotes, pedophile issues, etc.), plus copies of letters from the WT to the Elders. (there’s a photocopier in the KH, and I still have access )
I showed her a lot of stuff, but when she saw the letters from the UN…. That was “the straw that broke the camel’s back”… She said that she never thought that the WT was soooo hypocrite!!! After that, she’s been spending a lot of time researching on the internet.
I feel happy from certain point of view, but I’m still scared of how other family members will react. She confronted her mom with the information, and I don’t know right now what’s going to happen.
Keep us in your prayers, “maintain your fingers crossed” or “wish us luck”… We’re going to need it!!!
TTRP
i learned so much about you from the dream job topic.....just wanted to try again.
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me: i'm the nicest smart ass you will ever know..
Mentally free, but lost and scared sometimes.
i heard about a special group inside the organization.
its sole purpose is to find and judicialy process disidents (or apostates as they called them).
have you heard of such secret police before?
OOTB: I heard about a special group inside the Organization. Its sole purpose is to find and judicialy process disidents (or Apostates as they called them). Have you heard of such secret police before? -ootb
OOTB: What I've heard is that there's an "Investigation Commitee" that is trained to be sent to problematic congregations. And yes: there are Elders that are trained to search for "apostates" inside the congregations! And they will start asking you directly or indirectly if you believe in the FDS. If you doubt or if you say you don't... JC...
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What is the Matrix? ... Control.
It is the world that has been pulled
over your eyes to blind
you from the truth.
-- What truth?
That you are a slave, Neo.
Like everyone else, you
were born into bondage,
kept inside a prison that
you cannot smell, taste,
or touch. A prison for
your mind. "
hey guys!.
i can't wait to tell you something that happened last night.
in order to understarnd it, let me give you some details about me first: i'm still an elder, with my wife and the whole family and friends inside the borg.
Hello Guys!
Thanks a lot for your comments. Let me answer a couple of your questions:
Oompa: What was the Rutherford teaching that your wife said is now being recycled? Source?.........
Oompa: The generation teaching. I found a WT magazine from 1927, explaining the "new light" exactly as the February 2008 Magazine. So, she noticed that our "new light" is RECYCLED. That magazine has been posted here before.
Galileo: what was that Bethel dress & grooming letter? Was it a directive on what to wear when visiting Bethel? Can you some it up?
Galileo: A couple of weeks ago, we received a letter from the GB, with a new full-color "tract", giving specific instructions about "what not to wear"when visiting Bethel. I can post the brochure, if you want!
OnTheWayOut: TTRP, you are my hero. Can I hang out with you?
OnTheWayOut: Sure!!! I will love to meet many of you in a future "Apostafest", after I solve my present situation!
W.Once: Good luck, if you catch my drift.
Wasanelder: Thanks! Right now i don't care if somebody wish me luck! I'm going to need it!!!
OpenMind: TTRP: You and Mrs. TTRP are cordially invited to come hang out with my family for the forseeable future.
OpenMind: I will!!! Please keep in contact!!
OOTB: Hey Took... See? I told you she was ready to know the truth!!! I am superhappy!
OOTB: Thanks a lot for your suggestions, and for keeping us in your prayers!!!
Guys, THANKS A LOT TO ALL OF YOU!!!
hey guys!.
i can't wait to tell you something that happened last night.
in order to understarnd it, let me give you some details about me first: i'm still an elder, with my wife and the whole family and friends inside the borg.
BTT
Hello All!
I'm just writing to let you know that everything has been improving for the last 2 weeks! My wife have accepted that the WT is not the "Truth". I've been having good talks with her on a daily basis. She realized that the "Faithful and Discreet Slave" is just a parable used by Jesus, (By the way, check this out: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parable_of_the_Faithful_Servant), and that the 1919 date is just a man's invention. I also showed her the UN fiasco letters. She was in shock!
I never thought that it will take me less that 6 months to make her think by herself!! As many of you, I was scared to death to talk to her about it. I spent months "digesting" all the information I found about our beliefs, alone and depressed. Now (at least) I feel that I have my wife's support. And that's a relief!!!
She's sad sometimes, because it is very difficult to "disconnect" after so many years. (She's a 3rd generation Witness). But now she understands how "brainwashed" we were!!!
At this moment, I don't know what we are going to do. Yet. All of her family members are still inside. She has been trying to tell some things to her mom, but without results.
I'm trying to find a way of return my "privileges" in order to start fading...
Thanks for "listening", and I really appreciate all the PM's, good vibes and comments from all of you. I've found a family outside of the Borg, and your support has been a blessing.
I'll keep you posted!!!
TTRP
personally, i don't think the organization is reformable.
while i was an elder, i tried to be a more moderate voice and as i grew older any harsher attitudes disappaited from within me.
as they say, all the good (and smart) elders have left.
Alpaca said: "I agree, Minimus, that the few intelligent, thinking elders who remain in the Borg are in for reasons other than being convinced that it is the "TROOF."
Guys: I agree 100% with you both!
The ONLY reason that there are "thinking elders" still inside, is because the BORG has our families "abducted". At least I know 5 fellow Elders that are in the same situation...
There is NO WAY that you can read the Bible, and REALLY analyze the WT information, without starting having questions. Most of the people that I know, does not study. They just highlight the answers in the WT Magazine...
It's horrible what the WT can do to a brain...
TTRP
hello everyone i'm writing this because i am taking a break from here for awhile.
one reason is i do not feel welcomed.
everyone else just clicks with everyone else and i feel out of place.
You'll be back!!
hey guys!.
i can't wait to tell you something that happened last night.
in order to understarnd it, let me give you some details about me first: i'm still an elder, with my wife and the whole family and friends inside the borg.
truthsearcher: Thanks a lot for your constant support. You know that I really appreciate it!
All: Thanks for sharing your ideas and suggestions!!! :)
I'll keep everyone posted!
TTRP
Born into it. Still in because of family only.
I've been "disconnected from the Matrix" for at least 1 year.
That makes 34 years in, 1 out...
TTRP