Posts by yknot

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Do Jehovah's Witnesses REALLY Love Others?

by minimus in

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think about it---witnesses proclaim that their identifying mark is love.

they are the "most loving organization in the world".

they personify christ and are the only "true christians".

yknot

Here is what I have experienced. When I am at the KH, things are "distanced", yet when I run into the same people (even some younger elders(40's)) at walmart or the grocery store, it is like we are friends, I probably heard more confessions of doubt, or "spiritual weakness/trouble" then the BOE has in 20 years. So yes I would say we love each other, just not while being observed in the KH habitat

This is just my experience, but it took decades before they spoke to me, and realized I was not Satan's Seed, as the PO claimed.

Oh but when I travelled and ran into another JW (radar), then I would describe most as being friendly enough to feel some warmth.

Y

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Even NEWER LIGHT on Generation doctrine???

by integ in

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friends

hello friends,.

i heard from a "brother" whose daughter is in bethel, that his daughter told him that there will be 'new light" released in january pertaining to "adjustments in understanding" of the generation doctrine.. does anybody know what this may be about?

or what the change might be?.

yknot

JANUARY....THEY ARE WAITING UNTIL JANUARY !!!!!!

Well me and my big mouth !!!..........I just finished KH yard work about an hour ago..........

My entire bookstudy knows now, I figured they would do like with the 95 thing and tell us at the begining of Nov.

Guess I just blew the anticipation thing for the WTBS.......

And yea I showed the copy of the Bratty's Jan 15 Cover and "loose" translation too, but only after our BKS leader asked to see it. Said he had seen something "similar". (I wonder in Elder L-C M is a lurker)

Geez, I am the WTBS party pooper

Guess they want us in-house apostates to reveal ourselves by being snitches!

LOL

Long-time, casted-out, beyond the reach of the Elders, in-KH Apostate

Y

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Send prayers ,good vibes for TRev.Linda's gone

by mouthy in

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to a better place he needs out love more than ever now

yknot

Though words can never truly compensate, please know how many are with you in spirit to lend a hand, or shoulder when you need one. Many hugs, tears, and condolences to you and all of your family, in this time of loss.

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greetings fellow apostates!

by SethMo in

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i should introduce myself, since this is my first post.

i'm actually not an ex-jw, but rather someone who has just lost his faith in a different church, the mormon church.

i've long suspected that in terms of the organizational aspects of our two churches, how they hook you mentally, how they condition you, how they socialize you and make it very hard to leave, from an abstract level there's really not a dime's worth of difference.

yknot

Wow,

Thank you for sharing and you open hearted honesty. I always thought yall had shunning based on the few Mormons still left in my area. They are a tight group but I remember the way a friend of mine was afraid to let any "family or church family" find out she had a crush on a non-Mormon, she described something close to our reproofment and DF'ing.

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Do not put your trust in men [ except of course the governing body]

by jacethespace in

how often did we hear in the meetings, conventions,etc, the saying - do not put your trust in men but put your trust in god.anyone putting their trust in men are foolish but anyone putting their trust in god is wise.not once did anyone point out of course that in the watchtower its impossible to put your trust in god because in order to put your trust in god you have to first put your trust in the infallible, unquestionable governing body.i think that when we were told trust in jehovah, what they really meant was trust in the watchtower org and those untouchable 12 men at the top who interprets everthing.. of course if anyone had ever pointed that out we would have got that very spooky air of silence and then totally ignored like we wasnt there.

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yknot

Jace, have you asked Third or Diogenes that lately?

LOL............

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Jesus came in 1914 and NOBODY noticed til when???

by oompa in

i know the end of mankind was supposed to happen in 1914 with the end of the gentile times.

true christians were supposed to all fly to heaven.

now i forget when fds figured out he came in 1914 instead of 1874. and when did we figure out btg was felled?

yknot

You know that is a hoot. Changing the parousia to 1914 in 1925 both being "Armageddon Years"

Imagine in 1975, after armageddon had yet to appear they had moved the parousia to 1925. I might not had been continued to be raised JW.

I sure hope they do not try again to predict another "great disappointment"

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Jesus came in 1914 and NOBODY noticed til when???

by oompa in

i know the end of mankind was supposed to happen in 1914 with the end of the gentile times.

true christians were supposed to all fly to heaven.

now i forget when fds figured out he came in 1914 instead of 1874. and when did we figure out btg was felled?

yknot

1914 Parousia- 1925 ....I stand corrected I thought I remembered it to be 1933...lol my memory is going!

BTG-1919.......I am pretty sure....

Y

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Time for a new great schism, apostasy, falling away, dissension?

by Awakened07 in

"nineteen fourteen - nineteen schmorsteen" ?.

we've had some threads about this, but it seems the general consensus is that they cannot change the 1914 date - it is what the entire organization rests it's doctrine on.. but why do we say that, really?

at one time (and for many, many years), the years 1799 and 1874 were pivotal dates to the bible students.

yknot

Wow, great find!

My little JW brain is beginning to feel the growing pains again..........but growth is GOOD

Thank you !

Y

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new member from texas. looking for some advise

by confused&broken@texas in

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hey, new member here.

just looking for someone close to my age and maybe has had similar situation for some advice.

at a cross roads and could use someone to help me make the walk across if that's what looks like i need to do for me & my children & my husband

yknot

Good news! I have an suggested "out" that the elders can't argue

Bad news! You will still have to spend sometime reading the WT and discussing it with your mom.

Before I continue I wanted to let you know that I too am Texan, 33, 2 kids (8 &3) and married to an inactive Baptist.

Here is the solution to the JW family.

You will need to borrow your mom's WT cd for a some research. Once you have it or she can get one from the KH, start searching for "Headship" articles. Compile those that can support you claiming innocence under "Husbandly Headship". Since your husband is yours and your children's "head", and he is not a believer, he can impose worldly practices in your home. He can in fact choose which church the family worships. The only catch here is claiming that you are not "wholeheartedly" participating, but rather obeying his authority. If your family are devout JWs they will recognize God's headship arrangement, if not, request a meeting with her elders, no eldership is going to disagree with Headship or WT literature. This will also reinforce the biblical essences of the "argument". Stand firm and you can milk this for a lifetime

The trade off:

You will need to accept WT on a regular basis from your mom, pacify her. Make sure to read through them and be able to discuss them at some later point. Toss them in the trash once you have read them.

Your family just needs to be reassured that you understand the JW message. Being a JW is their hobby, much like soap operas are my grandmothers. People like to talk about their hobbies, again pacify. If you want to keep a relationship going this is all that it should take.

Maybe go to the "Memorial" with them........again just tossing bones

As for church, I would choose the one that could allow your family to grow! In my town both the SB and Methodist offer all types of classes, workshops, study groups, support groups, are kid friendly with activities that are "God Focused", there are early services, family services, kids church, choir, charitable drives for the community......the list goes on and on. Visit as many as needed until you find a fit.

Make sure to water you X-mas tree!

Y

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