My sister told me about The Village a couple of years ago and kept insisting that I watch it. I wonder now if maybe she was trying to tell me something.
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A film that is analogous of the Watchtower's demonization of the Internet and isolation from the outside world...
by cedars inso what do you think?.
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http://youtu.be/kq_b_ukrgko.
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Christmas Shopping
by Duncan indear all.
i'm a new chap here, one of the old h2o refugees who seem to have been streaming to this place recently.. englishman suggested i post my "christmas shopping" post as a kind of introductory-hi-and-how-are-you.
hope you like it, despite it not being terribly seasonal at the moment.. i'll look forward to posting here in the future (original stuff i mean, not just reheated "greatest hits" like this).
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Reinstatement...how long?
by LKM inhow long does it take for the elder's to respond to a letter of reinstatement?
is there a time range?.
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I know a JW lady that had been df'd several times for adultery/fornication and she was always back within a few weeks after submitting her letter. However, when one of my family members submitted their letter they were told that they needed another 6 months of regular meeting attendance and to study with one of the elders. I didn't even know df'd people could study with anyone.
So it depends...on whatever they want it to.
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Awakes were everwhere!
by maninthemiddle insunday i visited a local resturant in a strip-mall type of setup.
several business were closed over the weekend.
while leaving i noticed the next door had something stuck in the handle.
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Pioneers that have high placement numbers typically have a drop-off route for their mags. They don't talk to anyone, they simply drop the mags and leave them in laundry mats, waiting rooms, etc. You can easily place 30 mags before even meeting the morning group.
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Has anyone else noticed all the advertizing the Mormons are starting to do.
by life is to short ini live in the pacific northwest and in the last week i have started to see bill boards popping up all over the city with pictures of people who are doctors, stay at home mom's, lawyers, plumbers, etc.
they all look very normal just living life and below their picture it says i am a mormon.. i have also started in just the last few days to see commercials on tv showing a soccer mom running her kids to games and she stops to look at the camera and says i am a mormon, or they showed a doctor who stops and says i am a mormon.. i think this campaign with the mormons has to do with mitt romney.. has anyone else noticed this?
i wonder what the gb would do to make the jw's look normal, as our kids do not do school sports, we do not go to college so we do not have many doctors or lawyers, or even plumbers and electricians, etc for that matter.
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shopaholic
Hilarious!
I know what they could do, show a guy washing window's who stops and smiles at the camera and says I am a Jehovah's Witnesses.
I noticed the increase advertising too. The ad with black guy confuses me because I thought black people could never make it to the top level of heaven in the Mormon religion.
Also, they've started passing out leaflets about Jesus and Mormons. Definitely seems like they are trying to seem more mainstream.
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No More Missionaries
by Lunatic Faith inhas anyone heard about this?
we received an email from an old friend who is still an elder and doesn't know what we are up to.
"a change, they are no longer training missionaries and sending them into foreign fields.
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shopaholic
They are continuing to encourage people to serve where the need is greater in foreign countries?
Seems they failed to mentioned that earlier this year they stopped "sponsoring" visas. While you pay all the expenses, you would get use the Watchtower's name as your sponoring organization when getting a missionary visa in another country. You don't have to be a Gilead grad to get missionary visa but you must have a "sponsoring" religious organization.
Anyway, they stopped the "sponsorship" program earlier this year and all new visas and renewals for non-Gilead grads must be in your own name...in other words they have no liability for your actions and you are not a representative of their org (language from the visa app) even if you are there to preach their message.
That means you either need to get a work visa, marry a native, cycle through tourist visas or seek citizenship in the new country on your own which can be very $$$ and require some time already living in the country.
If you know people that want to go live another country, recommend they go for the adventure or to write the book that everyone has in them but not to preach.
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Research Data Wanted: Married to a JW or child of one parent in and the other not
by Lady Lee ini am looking for information from several groups of people.. people who are no longer jws but have a spouse who is still in.
never-been jwswas a jw (baptized or not) but left after marrying and spouse remained indfed, daed or faded and still have a spouse who is inchildren (now grown) who were raised with one parent a jw and the other never beenchildren (now grown) where one parent left the jws and one stayed in.if there are categories i have missed let me know.
i need this to be pretty inclusive and focused on couples where one person is a jw and the other is not.. i will be asking questions re:.
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I'm in category 2 and will participate in the survey.
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I must admit, I sometimes wonder, what IF?
by Greybeard inwhat if the watchtower stuck to their guns and didn't change the "generation" understanding?
when they came up with this totally ridiculous "overlapping generation" concept, i knew something was wrong.
there are people still alive who lived in 1914 today, they could have stuck to their guns or went with genesis 6:3, "after that jehovah said: my spirit shall not act toward man indefinitely in that he is also flesh.
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The insidiousness of that organization is smothering.
Thats why its important for as many that have the strength to leave to do so. I honestly thinks it make it easier for everyone else to just walk away.
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I must admit, I sometimes wonder, what IF?
by Greybeard inwhat if the watchtower stuck to their guns and didn't change the "generation" understanding?
when they came up with this totally ridiculous "overlapping generation" concept, i knew something was wrong.
there are people still alive who lived in 1914 today, they could have stuck to their guns or went with genesis 6:3, "after that jehovah said: my spirit shall not act toward man indefinitely in that he is also flesh.
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Greybeard, thanks for this post. I never really wondered what if but when. Not sure how long you were in but I knew something wasn't right in 1995 and saw right through the smoke and mirrors. So for me it was a question of when for many years.
The good thing is that you are out now regardless of the reason. No need to wonder what if but plenty of need to live in and embrace the now.
Wishing you a peaceful journey,
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Has Gambling Become A Conscience Issue Among JWs?
by FreeAtLast1914 inthe reason i ask is that i have a coupe of cousins who are still jws who have gone gambling in casinos with us.
i have a brother-in-law who openly brags about his "perfect" blackjack strategy he employs in vegas when he's in town.. i know that growing up as a jw, gambling of any kind was a dfing offense.. is my jw family simply more liberal than most, or has there been a subtle shift in this area since i've been out?.
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I know a JW that bought into a lotto pool with some co-workers. They won a few million in total but she didn't participate in the press conference. After taxes it was still a healthy amount for each of them and it eventually came out that she won the lottery. She kept the money, got disfellowshipped and was reinstated a year later and later transferred to a new congregation. As far as I know she is still in.
I have a feeling it would have been different if she won $50 from a scratcher ticket.