Posts by Flip

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Mother Troubles

by joelbear in

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my mother called tuesday night.

as many of you know, i have chosen to stop communication with my family as of the beginning of this year.. my mother has called 4 or 5 times to talk, but i have not called her, my father or my brother or anyone in his family.

all of them are witnesses of varying degrees.. i tend to go into a deep depression each time my mother calls.

Flip

Joel, I don’t know if my thoughts have already been discussed, but your mother and/or many of your relatives by your description are exhibiting classic dysfunctional behavior. Much like a person who is of an addictive personality for example an alcoholic.

Your mom may not have had a "drop" during her life. However, she may have been influenced during childhood by someone who has.

It is hard for me to make decisions for myself now. I get very confused because I try to factor in the feelings of all the people around me so that I don't upset anyone. This hampers my ability to build real relationships with people.

With your above comments in mind, check out help groups such as Alcoholics Anonymous, etc. (forget the WTBTS they have none) although this seems irrelevant in your case, much of the behavior you seem to be experiencing is similar.

Most importantly, they will help you identify that you cannot solve the problems of negative people like your mom whom you come in contact with, but teach your self how not to be influenced by their behavior, so you can lead a fuller life.

What steps your mom takes to resolve her problems, only she can make that decision. They are not yours to make because if you try to solve her problems by compromising who you are for her sake, she will take you down with her. Then we will have two dysfunctional individuals, instead of one.

Flip

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When Death Leaves You All Alone.

by Englishman in

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i've just had a really interesting chat with my nearest and dearest.. .

we were talking about the fact that when one of us dies the other will be left alone.

we agreed that the surviving one should be able to talk about the deceased one without adopting a holy sepulchral voice and that both our spoken and remembered memories of each other will be full of fun and laughter.. we also agreed that the surviving mate would want to build a new life, take on fresh interests and travel the world as much as possible.

Flip

As it happens we lead a very full life and travel Europe extensively.

Englishman, no doubt you do! However, I did read and fully understand your original post. I happened to think it was important.

Although my response was to you and your spouse, my comments should have been directed to those who may have forgone a full life in preparation for the "long dirt nap". That it's never to late to make a change now and get on the "band wagon".

Sorry about the confusion Englishman, I keep forgetting folks from Great Britian think “vertically”, while North Americans mostly think “horizontally”! :)

Flip

19

Alan Does the Twist

by Rex B13 in

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it never ceases to amaze me seeing how alan's various toadies here fawn over his posts and kiss his behind up to the brown spot.

evidence of this is in the responses to his post about ot & nt morality.. alan uses his own lack of context to twist scripture as well as any jw writer.

a case in point is his notion that adultery and fornication are primarily related to an economic loss (with a woman as property) and not a violation of a clear moral code.

Flip

…It never ceases to amaze me seeing how Alan's various toadies here fawn over his posts and kiss his behind…

Hey WW, I’m with you on that one, Buddy. In fact I shudder to think of the money you’d make, if you were ever to leave here and apply to the Government for a tax-free status by starting your own religion much like the WTBTS Corporation has.

Hey...don't sell yourself short, you'd be as good at it as the "boys from Brooklyn".

Flip

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Apostate Swimsuit Calendar

by SlayerLayer in

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we would like to take this opportunity to recognize those that were just too ugly to make it into aour calendar.

we thank you for your audition photos, but we're afraid that you would hurt our business.

again thank you for auditioning.

Flip

Excuse me, is that the theme music to the movie, “The Crying Game” I hear playing in the background?

And why is Jim Carrey kneeling in my washroom using a toilet plunger on his face?

Flip

(Can’t believe I’m responding to this ribald humor Class)

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When Death Leaves You All Alone.

by Englishman in

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i've just had a really interesting chat with my nearest and dearest.. .

we were talking about the fact that when one of us dies the other will be left alone.

we agreed that the surviving one should be able to talk about the deceased one without adopting a holy sepulchral voice and that both our spoken and remembered memories of each other will be full of fun and laughter.. we also agreed that the surviving mate would want to build a new life, take on fresh interests and travel the world as much as possible.

Flip

We also agreed that the surviving mate would want to build a new life, take on fresh interests and travel the world as much as possible.

Also sound advice to heed before one gets slammed by the proverbial bus, Anglo-Saxon dude.

I'm surprised your spouse didn't say, "Why wait to build a new life, take on fresh interests and travel the world as much as possible...lets start now!"

Mind you, in moderation, after all you'd want to have something left to do once either of you snuff it.

Flip

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The dim people

by Norm in

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the dim people.

the new world society.

the chosen, brain dead, scared people.. the watchtower's obedient parrots.

Flip

"...but I wasn't forced to become a JW

I was, Ustabee.

I was born into the "Truth". As a child until I was old enough to leave my parents home I was expected to perform and experience every aspect of being a Jehovah's Witnesses.

Now, as an adult, I'm resigned to learn how to unlearn the negative effects of the WTBTS corporate directives I was forced to engage as a child.

One small consolation though, I never have to say, "Boy was I stupid for choosing to become a Jehovah's Witness! And ...I only have my self or my parents to blame."

No, because of the multitude of indiscreations, the responsibility rests entirely on the shoulders of whoever is controlling the WTBTS Corporation and those who should know better.

Flip

"...I see dim people." - Norm

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The dim people

by Norm in

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the dim people.

the new world society.

the chosen, brain dead, scared people.. the watchtower's obedient parrots.

Flip

Most loyal dubs ARE braindead. One cannot be loyal and intelligent as a JW and be anything other than braindead.

Farkel, I just want to point out that there are also the disingenuous, who may appear loyal but who are obviously intelligent and well aware of WTBTS indiscretions, but protect and/or market the WTBTS Corporation by calculated obfuscation of policy.

It’s the braindead Jehovah’s Witnesses who are the “bread and butter” of the organization. The intelligent controllers of the WTBTS make sure that the “cold, hard cash” the braindead “contributes”, is regularly “deposited” into the proper investment "accounts”.

Whether there is anything wrong with the above corporate procedure I will not say. Personally I object to the harmful effects of the methods used on everyday Jehovah’s Witnesses to accomplish the corporate financial goals of whomever is craftily controlling the WTBTS as I would the tobacco industry or shoddy tire manufacturers for example.

Flip

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Who do we pray to?

by Theo Cratz in

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jehovah's witnesses obviously make a big thing over god's name and say that we should call him jehovah.. but when jesus taught his disciples how to pray in matthew 6:9 why didn't he start the prayer "jehovah"?

instead he starts it "our father".

surely if jesus had wanted us to use god's name he would have taught us to use it in prayer?.

Flip

"COME! Take 'life's water' FREE!"

Yes that's true, AG! Those controlling the WTBTS say they offer "Life's Water" free, however, it's a "25 cent donation" or a stop at the planned giving desk if you want a disposable "paper cup" required each time you swallow.

(WTBTS publications are symbolized by the "paper cup").

Just curious...hands up...those who recognized the symbolism before the clarification?

Flip

10

Creation evidences

by Rex B13 in

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summary of the evidences for creation.

"mosaic" organs: body parts that are very similar appear sporadically among species that are apparently unrelated (e.g., the eyes of the octopus and of man).

also, the protein structure of "unrelated" species show the same mosaic pattern (i.e., hemoglobin).. "living fossils": animals that were long thought of as being extinct have suddenly turned up in virtually an unchanged form as their fossil counterparts.

Flip

At the risk of sounding like Fred Hall, ‘biblical creation’ credibility is simply suspect if it requires you to explain it, Rex.

After 6000yrs, you’d think God could have come up with a better system of promotional delivery.

God "beating the living crap" out of everone who disagrees with the logic, is not one of them.

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What is the societies motivation?

by trendspeak in

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i hear and read and form my thoughts about the insanity that was my life and those of others who experienced being a jw.

i am still stumped.

as much as i disagree with jw, have strong opinions about it, and feel it is very unhealthy, what is "their" motivation?

Flip

TR, awesome looking JRT you got there!

If you’re its caregiver, I hope you don’t call him/her “Chuck”, short for Charles T. Russell.

One happens to live with me and come to think of it, for a “Russell”…mine is surprisingly non-judgmental.

Flip

PS (a tip for the one or two who were wondering the significance of my handle)