I've considered moving to another congregation, but I wouldn't be able to move FAR away right now. I know of a few young guys that used to be in my congregation that moved to another city about 20 miles away and from what I understand, they appear to be on the fade themselves. The positive to that is that the congregation they are in is in a different circuit which seems to be an advantage. I might take similar steps. I toyed with the idea today of just doing like a few former elders here locally, just never showing up again. DARN THOSE PESKY FAMILY TIES AND UNRESOLVED RELATIONSHIP ISSUES OF MINE!!!!
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Attention former elders and ms: I have a question.
by R.F. ini'm currently a ministerial servant and pioneer in my congregation.
i want to begin my fade soon.
i'm going to get off the pioneer list first instead of quitting both positions at once, hopefully to ease potential gossip.
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Attention former elders and ms: I have a question.
by R.F. ini'm currently a ministerial servant and pioneer in my congregation.
i want to begin my fade soon.
i'm going to get off the pioneer list first instead of quitting both positions at once, hopefully to ease potential gossip.
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R.F.
I'm currently a ministerial servant and pioneer in my congregation. I want to begin my fade soon. I'm going to get off the pioneer list first instead of quitting both positions at once, hopefully to ease potential gossip. Any ideas as to what I can expect from the elders?
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Any current Good Standing JW, posting here?
by NotaNess ini was wondering if there are any current regular posters here that are still active , but are mentally inactive and don't believe all the bull anymore, and are just going through the motions to keep their life with friends and family together.. i realize this might be a posting that will probably get 0 replies, but.......
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R.F.
I'm in good standing. I'm also a ministerial servant and reg pioneer. I've had doubts about the organization for a while and i've utilized the internet to truly educate myself. I will begin my fade shortly.
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Comments you will not hear at the 5-13-07 WT Review (Loyal to GB Jesus)
by blondie inloyal to christ and his faithful slave.
what interesting points: cross, christmas, pyramid.
q12, 13) what scriptural reasons are there for showing respect for the slave class?.
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R.F.
I'm kinda glad I didn't "make it" to this WT study.
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My Update
by R.F. inhello all.. as some of you know recently i've realized the importance of really examining the jws yet i'm still a part of it(ms, reg pioneer).
well i have as of late put alot more time into bible reading(with different translation) with a more open mind without the watchtower blinders and it has been very refreshing to me.
the more i read about first century christianity and the message they preached the more i realize just how off the the wt really is.
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Hello all.
As some of you know recently i've realized the importance of really examining the JWs yet i'm still a part of it(MS, reg pioneer). Well I have as of late put alot more time into bible reading(with different translation) with a more open mind without the Watchtower blinders and it has been very refreshing to me. The more I read about first century Christianity and the message they preached the more I realize just how off the the WT really is. I haven't felt this great in a long time! However I still need to talk to my fiancee about my doubts and I don't think our relationship will look too good after that. Recently she said that she will always love me, but if I "quit serving Jehovah" that she couldn't continue our relationship.
Well either way I'll keep you posted.
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This Is My Current Stage
by R.F. ini'm currently in the stage of mixed feelings.
i feel torn at times because of this.
i've built up courage to come to this website, and recently i've built up enough to take part in it.
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R.F.
I'm currently in the stage of mixed feelings. I feel torn at times because of this. I've built up courage to come to this website, and recently i've built up enough to take part in it. Now i'm torn over the fact that this is the organzation that i've been around my entire life and been told that this is the one organization Jehovah is using and the only way to receive his blessing is to be a part of it. Then at the same time those doubts just can't go away in my mind. Things that I tried to make myself believe but just couldn't.
Now something has come to my mind after much pondering is my dad. He's baptized, however something that has intrigued me is the fact that he never encouraged me to do things like pioneer or reach out for privileges. He never encouraged me to get baptized. Heck, he never really taught me the Bible based on the literature. However he would tell me every now then about reading the Bible. He isn't known as being "spiritual". He might make 1 meeting a week and go door to door once every 2 or 3 months, but after thinking about all of this, could this be something that i've been overlooking all this time. Could he have been trying to send a subliminal message after all this time?
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Time to make my thoughts known......
by R.F. ini have lurked around here for a little while and i've finally seen the need to post.
i'm 22 years old and a ministerial servant and pioneer in my congregation.
i'm not really here to knock the organization, but i must admit that there are some things(ex.
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SnakesInTheTower
Thanks for the advise. The interesting thing is, after me giving this much thought, I think my fiancee would be really supportive of me going to school. I discussed with her some months back about me quitting pioneering and going to school and she said that whatever I wanted to do she would support me. I don't think the BOE would be so quick to call into questions my MS qualifications. There are some MS in my cong that miss meetings left and right and barely squeeze out their 10 hours a month in service.
Another interesting thing is that you mentioned is that maybe she just hasn't opened up to me about her true thoughts about things. That's something that came to my mind over the last day or so. When she comes to me about certain issues she has it's usually has to do with the hypocrisy of some, not doctrinal points. However I will subtely try to get my issues across through bible reading that she and I do everyday(over the phone when we can't do it together). We do this with no aid from publications so it might be one of the best options right now. Then too I mention the fact of me using another translation when we read and she was down for it. But at this point right now, i'm not so sure what I will do as far as fading. I'm still in the stage of educating myself with truth.
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So many newbies lately. What drove you to finally post?
by OnTheWayOut inthere are so many newbies in the last month or so.
it's like spring cleaning.
at the old wts, time to push out the doubters and apostates.
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R.F.
Mavie,
I think that people wouldn't get so fed up with the organization if more resonableness was displayed. For instance, my fiancee doesn't drive yet and she had a dr's appointment not too far from where she lives but it was far enough. Now let me tell that it was 110 degrees out that afternoon and she had no one that could take her. I happened to be off work and at home that day so I took her. Then one of the hardline elders saw us and pulled me into a room at the next meeting and reminded me of the importance of not going on dates without a chaperone. I was just taking her to the dr! So was I supposed to let her walk in the sweltering heat, possibly faint because of a rule? At the same time there was a sister that was engaged, neice of one of the elders and her and her fiancee went drove to all the meetings together ALONE, ofter went out to eat afterwards ALONE and they did this for months on end right up until the wedding day.
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So many newbies lately. What drove you to finally post?
by OnTheWayOut inthere are so many newbies in the last month or so.
it's like spring cleaning.
at the old wts, time to push out the doubters and apostates.
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R.F.
I can truly understand your frustration.
I needed to vent because of some doctrinal points that just haven't been registering with me, (ex.paradise earth, the organization being only way to receive God's blessing, great crowd, other sheep) to name a few. Then too is the hypocrisy which really has boiled my blood lately. The high and mighties that are always trying to see what someone else isn't doing, all the backbiting, while at the same time offering no assistance to help anyonoe. I'm a MS and pioneer in my congregation and just because my circumstance have changed recently and i'm not able to work with the field service group through the week as much and been doing alot on my own, some say i'm slowing down spiritually and not fully carrying out the pioneer work. The thing that gets me though is that their children who are my age arent doing anything to begin with, yet they wanna look down on me because of a circumstance change. Then you have those that gossip about my mother who is an unbaptized publisher. My mother works and has her share of health problems. She tries very hard to make it to meetings and go door to door when she's not in terrible pain, but there are those that say she is lazy and can do more, and one of those sisters is supposed to be close to her. Too at the same time no one tries to check on her or call her or show true personal interest in her. Then you have the case of the elders, i'll just mention one in particular who made the most hateful statement. There was a young man in my congregation several months ago who was in a terrible accident and was in a coma for 2 weeks. The elder was asked when would he go see him and his family at the hospital...he said..."No. He hardly comes to the meetings anyway and it's not like he's gonna know i've been there. This young brother died a few days after that. This is just a taste of the things I need to vent about.
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So many newbies lately. What drove you to finally post?
by OnTheWayOut inthere are so many newbies in the last month or so.
it's like spring cleaning.
at the old wts, time to push out the doubters and apostates.
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R.F.
For me it was the need to vent and I felt that this was perhaps the best place to do so.