one of two things will happen.
i'll get disfellowshipped and never have to worry about being "told on" again for living a normal life, or; they won't do anything.. either way, it's freeing and i feel relieved... it will be sad if i get disfellowshipped but i've come to terms and made peace with it as much as can be expected.
it's a huge weight to have off.. was told on a week ago and haven't heard anything.
Congratulations on your courage Cognac. No matter where this goes you'll be better off. Seeing the impact the borg would have on my son was all I needed to get out. Had a birthday party for him, got ratted out, left and haven't looked back.
He's 15 now and thinks he's too cool for trick or treating but I got out in time to give him 7 years of normal Halloween fun!
i've been thinking about audrey mock knorr hyde since i heard about her death some weeks ago.
i met her while at watchtower farms in the early eighties.
i knew her second husband glen before alzheimers really began to take its toll.
Spent some time at WTF too. She was always fun to talk to.
I knew Audrey. She was a cool cat. A very colorful personality in the very monochromatic world of Bethel. I think she loved Nathan- and tried in her own way to get him to not be so boring!
We always said she was the one responsible for changing Bethel policy on marriage. And she must have been quite charming to catch the attention of the stubborn, workaholic, avowed bachelor Knorr.
heard this book review yesterday on npr.
sounds like a good read.. .
http://www.npr.org/2014/09/05/346060805/in-the-children-act-the-electrifying-human-dimension-of-a-legal-drama.
Heard this book review yesterday on NPR. Sounds like a good read.
so in the 5-4 decision today, the courts said an employer could not be forced to cover things mandated by the aca (specifically birth control was the point of contention), if doing so would violate their religious beliefs.. nuts.
just nuts.. here is what ruth ginsberg wrote in her dissent.
its 35 pages, but this stood out to me for obvious reasons.. "would the exemption...extend to employers with religiously grounded objections to blood transfusions (jehovah's witnesses); antidepressants (scientologists); medications derived from pigs, including anesthesia, intravenous fluids, and pills coated with gelatin (certain muslims, jews, and hindus); and vaccinations[?
An embarrasing decision. Wouldnt surprise me if WT filed an amicus brief in favor of Hobby Lobby!
i am inactive for about 10 years now..
7 years free. No status. Just walked out.
my family and i are planning a trip to a nice vacation area close to where my (active jw) parents and sister and brother in law live.
my family and i are not df'd, da'd or anything else- we just executed a successful fade and havent looked back.
sooo- i've expressed my interest in spending some time with them on vacation (why not- right??).
@dfg
Great to hear from you. I feel like i have this double life. The honest faded jw that talks on the phone with parents and siblings and the totally non jw person that i am ths rest of the time. I really could care a less about their little control club and superstitions. But i have to show a little respect in order to have a semirelationship with my parents.
my family and i are planning a trip to a nice vacation area close to where my (active jw) parents and sister and brother in law live.
my family and i are not df'd, da'd or anything else- we just executed a successful fade and havent looked back.
sooo- i've expressed my interest in spending some time with them on vacation (why not- right??).
@Bob- yes- that's exactly the message I'm trying to portray. That blood is thicker than whatever religious opinions I or they have at any given time. Hopefully that message will break through the brainwashing.
my family and i are planning a trip to a nice vacation area close to where my (active jw) parents and sister and brother in law live.
my family and i are not df'd, da'd or anything else- we just executed a successful fade and havent looked back.
sooo- i've expressed my interest in spending some time with them on vacation (why not- right??).
@Mous- I really have not "seen" anything over the last few years from the Org. My only source of info is this board. I kinda like that!!
my family and i are planning a trip to a nice vacation area close to where my (active jw) parents and sister and brother in law live.
my family and i are not df'd, da'd or anything else- we just executed a successful fade and havent looked back.
sooo- i've expressed my interest in spending some time with them on vacation (why not- right??).
It is a bit of a stuggle- do you stand by your principles and oppose the organization, and do whatever the hell you want to do, and risk getting the "label"- which ends family relationships.
Or do you go quietly- and not poke the dragon. I've chosen the latter- for now....
Fortunately for me- we live far enough away that I can celebrate Christmas, vote, even run a Halloween parade for my community and no one needs to know anything. On the opposite coast- they are happy to hear that my "status" is not Dfd or DAd. But if there comes a time where there is something I really want, and I dont want the Org to have a say in what I do- I will have to make a choice between free will and maintaining a relationship with my family.
Kinda sucks. But I know that there are thousands of you out there that dont have that choice and are living with the abandonment.
