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  JW. org: "No, we are not a cult. We do not look to any human as our leader."

  by Faithful Witness in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i know this has been rehashed, time and again, but i saw this interesting blip on jw.org last night, and did a little thinking about it.... jw.

  org answers the important question that so many have... are jehovah's witnesses a cult?.

  jehovah's witnesses do not look to any human as their leader.

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  lrkr

  Yes- please- do you have a link for the Berkley study. That would be a great 3rd party source.
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  What are you doing on Valentine's? I was invited to a party... er... a JC

  by ILoveTTATT in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so i go to that dinner with my parents.

  it worked great!

  i think i increased my mom's cog dis just by showing her i am the same good person, and having fun.

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  If you dont want to get DF'd- just talk about how you have honest questions that need answers and your're looking for help. Dont be aggressive.

  If you choose the other path- go have a nice Valentines day dinner with someone you love and forget about the mind control cult.
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  A $7million assisted living facility for aging JW ministers?

  by EndofMysteries in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  http://www.lvb.com/article/20140204/lvb01/140209972/serfass-to-build-$65m-assisted-living-facility.

  who is going to get to stay here?

  the gb, co's?

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  lrkr

  Dale Baker is the guy that gave Bethel and COs and DOs their leased cars! Looks like being a JW is a profitable enterprise for him!!
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  NEW BOE LETTER - It just got exponentially harder to "fade"

  by sir82 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  here is the text of the letter:.

  february 2, 2014. .

  your brothers,.

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  lrkr

  But even beyond exercising control at the local level, I smell a rat in the "don't document" advice: I suspect it's an intentional effort by the WTBTS to increase the distance between the activities and decisions of the individual congregations and the "Mother Ship", trying to cut down on the sheer bulk of 'smoking guns' that potentially serves as incriminating evidence showing the level of local control exerted by "Mother".

  This is the key. Dont forget- Service Dept and Legal Dept work hand in hand. There's always a liability avoidance motive if you look carefully enough.
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  NEW BOE LETTER - It just got exponentially harder to "fade"

  by sir82 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  here is the text of the letter:.

  february 2, 2014. .

  your brothers,.

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  lrkr

  I see this as a relaxing of standards. I have been in congos that assign calls, keep track of what is said, publicize all kinds of personal details amoung the elder body- in short really turn shepherding into a pain in the ass for everyone. This letter seems to be saying "back off- just show personal interest"
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  Rotary, Lions Club & Kiwanis, etc

  by 4thgen in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  like so many have said on this site, it is hard to begin again and make new friends.

  this has been a real challenge for me.

  i recently joined a local rotary club and have become acquainted with some very dedicated business people (some retired), wanting to be of service to others.

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  I was a Rotarian for a while. It was helpful to me to meet and socialize with non-Witnesses. However, the time commitment is oppressive. I got over the prayers, and pledges- it was much lighter than anything JW's ever came up with! And there were lots of agnostics and athiests there too. The impact that Rotary's have is impressive- from campaigns to cure polio to supporting local non-profits to giving out scholarships. I really enjoyed Rotary. Just didnt have the time to commit.
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  Will Child Molestation Lawsuits Against The Watchtower Corporation Make It Claim Bankruptcy?

  by frankiespeakin in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  we all know sales are dropping in money recieved from printing literature and that it must have been a money drain for quite some time now at least from the time they went to a completely free literature offer to avoid paying ceaser's things to ceaser, so that now the next big finacial move is thru real estate flipping and capitalizing of the jw work force thru slave labor working conditions.. could these lawsuits bring them to the breaking point finacially i know there are a lot of nay sayers among us, but what say you and what is your gut feeling on this one?.

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  They have hundreds of millions in real estate which they are now liquidating. If there is to be a financial problem- its at least 20-30 years out.
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  Will Child Molestation Lawsuits Against The Watchtower Corporation Make It Claim Bankruptcy?

  by frankiespeakin in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  we all know sales are dropping in money recieved from printing literature and that it must have been a money drain for quite some time now at least from the time they went to a completely free literature offer to avoid paying ceaser's things to ceaser, so that now the next big finacial move is thru real estate flipping and capitalizing of the jw work force thru slave labor working conditions.. could these lawsuits bring them to the breaking point finacially i know there are a lot of nay sayers among us, but what say you and what is your gut feeling on this one?.

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  They have hundreds of millions in real estate which they are now liquidating. If there is to be a financial problem- its at least 20-30 years out.
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  Were you 'alive in '75' and how was that year for you?

  by punkofnice in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i was a junior borgite in 1975. i remeber looking at the calendar at work in october and thinking: 'armageddon isn't here yet.....and it doesn't feel like it will be here anytime soon either!'.

  i was surprised that jehovah hadn't obeyed the superior command to bring the big 'a' as instructed to him by fred franz.

  how dare god disobey the jw leader!!!!!.

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  I was 4. My brother was 2. My parents tell stories of the congo giving them shit about having 2 kids so close to Armageddon. They were part of the 20 somethings that converted about 1972 after Vietnam, etc. Dad was finishing up a degree and they gave him trouble over that too.

  But they kept with it- and always used 1975 as an example of why you shouldnt be "unbalanced" in the truth.

  Unfortunately- that moderate approach to the org. makes a clean break more difficult for them.
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  Billy's Comments You Won't Hear at the 01-26-2014 WT Study (Obey Jehovah's Shepherds))

  by Billy the Ex-Bethelite in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  fine.

  holy spirit appointed overseers to shepherd?

  6:1, 2; jude 22) are these not good reasons for being obedient to those who are taking the lead?read hebrews 13:17.. .

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  Elders are referred to as shepherds because the Bible has a clear shepherds vs. farmers motif. Shepherds are the independant entrepreneurs, close to God, idealized. Farmers are the specialized, captialistic, city dwellers- who are always evil (Cain v. Able)

  http://pryorthoughts.blogspot.com/2012/09/farmers-vs-shepherds-really-old-story.html

  Sorry to hijack the thread. Couldnt resist.