Posts by lrkr

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Uniting all the worlds religions

by jacethespace in

tony blair ex british prime minister is talking about uniting all the worlds religions to bring peace to the world.just was wondering what peoples view points are on this idea.or whether you think its the work of the devil,etc, etc.. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7426647.stm.

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lrkr

Why do they need to unite? The variety is nice. Each culture connects with the "divine" according to their experience. The problem comes when a religious tradition becomes so dogmatic that it demands the killing/hating/marginalizing of non-believers.

Typical British Empire approach- unite all of them- less confusion, more practical, easier to control.

(Nothing against the Brits- at least you all have the Fundamentalist Christians under control. You sent us all of your Puritans and we haven't been able to get rid of them yet!!)

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Green bible 1961

by loosie in

is the green bible ( new world translation) special in any way?

did the wtbs make any revisional changes when the black one came out?

why did they discontinue the green one?.

lrkr

Yes, I remember the dinosaur. When I was 5 my bible had a dinosur who was breathing fire attacking a few other poor mid-east residents and being chased by pirates.

My parents bibles had dinosaurs with pirate hats and moustaches.

(At least there was one good thing about the translation.)

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Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 06-01-08 WT Study (VALUELESS)

by blondie in

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repudiate "valueless things" .

does this mean that secular work done as to jehovah is part of our sacred service?.

may we always repudiate valueless words and cling to valuable words of truth.. ot example--moses.

lrkr

"Valueless things" is a category that they give to things that can't be called "evil" or "wrong" by most people. So they call it "valueless" to make you feel worthless and valueless if you value these things.

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Dress & Grooming for visiting Bethel. scans inside!!!!!11 LOL

by karvel in

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lrkr

Untucked shirts- definately a sign of devil worshipers

And the heels on the lady on the cover- stilletos no? Are those what are referred to in some circles as "F*** Me" shoes???

(Please dont tell them- it'll be our little secret)

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Dress & Grooming for visiting Bethel. scans inside!!!!!11 LOL

by karvel in

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lrkr

Had to BTTT because, well, damn- what a jacked up little flyer. I cant even come up with the right words but petty, invasive, controlling, hypersensitive and ridiculous come to mind. I missed this when it was first posted.

Wow!! Just way, way over the edge.

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ANOINTING - How JWs really know!

by Amazing in

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anointing - how jws really know!

[note: this is a 7 page post in case you may want to print it out and read it later.

i hope that i do provide clarity on this topic, but i accept that i may have muddied the waters as much as i have tried to clear them up.

lrkr

If you've got $3.99 you can be anointed too.

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What To Think Of Mr. Scott McClellan?

by Rapunzel in

mcclellan has recently published a book that is highly critical of bush and his administration.

mcclellan's book has understandably created a furor within the current presidential administration, an administration that has valued loyalty above all else.. mcclellan was a long-time bush loyalist, he started working for bush when bush was still govenor of texas.

mcclellan helped bush to enter the white house, and then followed bush to washington mcclellan became a spokesman for bush, defending the president on such issues as the war in iraq.

lrkr

I'm sure he was motivated by money. But maybe by a need for a little confession and cleansing also. McClellan always struck me as someone who was very nervous and uncomfortable spouting the BS he had to spout. He often looked visibly shaken and sweaty. Maybe he actually has a conscience. His successor Tony Snow had no such problems. Give him the script and the talking points and he could go for hours. Right and wrong were completely irrelevant to him. I think he stepped aside because of health.

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Are the Creative days 7000 years long?

by Steve J in

where does the idea that the creative days of the genesis account were 7,000 years long come from?.

genesis doesn't suggest that they were specific time periods, but shows that one "day" extended into others.

i feel that the clue is in the words; "and there was an evening and there was a morning, a first day.

lrkr

Ok - old thread- but heres a little bit of backstory.

The official teaching of WTS was for a long time that creative days are 7000 years long (6000 years ends with Armageddon- last thousand years is millenial reign, blah blah blah)

But then, there was a sister in the engineering department in Brooklyn who was a geologist who told them that it was not possible to create oil, coal and other fossil fuels in 50,000 years. It takes much longer.

So, although some members of the GB didn't buy it- they quietly abandoned the 7000 year long approach and adopted the "a day is a time frame of unspecified length" teaching.

(Still doesn't explain the sequencing of the days of creation) This is one of those "Bethel rumors" relayed to me by someone who had just discussed it with someone in Writing. Take it for what its worth.

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Furuli. The prominent elder in Norway not too popular among top dogs

by Samuel Thorsen in

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a trustworthy source has given me the opportunity to share some information about rolf furuli.

a well known apologist og and greatly respected elder in norway and a schoolar at the university of oslo.

he does not compleatly agree with the fds in all cases i guess, and lately he has spoken up in his local congo about 3 subjects.. # 1. education.

lrkr

Don't all new puritanical religions eventually become mainstream and encourage more conservative breakaway movements, who eventually also become mainstream. Its the evolutionary process of religions. And its starting to happen with JWs.

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Reasons why i can't worship the God of the bible...

by digderidoo in

the following scriptures given show the reasons why i cannot worship the god of the bible.

call him jehovah, yahweh, yhwh, lord, father, jesus, whatever you will.

the passages are taken from the new world translation, because we are all familiar with it and also it was the only one i really had at hand.. gen 3:16 ... " to the woman he said: 'i shall greatly increase the pain of your pregnancy; in birth pangs you will bring forth children, and your craving will be for your husband, and he will dominate you.

lrkr

So their belief is based on complete assumption that their parents and religious leaders are correct about religious matters.

And that belief is very powerful. I now think that a parent should be very careful about what they are dogmatic about. Teach children to demand evidence. Because they will accept what you say as gospel- and it will stick in their heads for a long time. (which is why it is very difficult for "raised in" witnesses to completely break free- there are a number here who have- but many more who haven't)

That automatic assumption that your parents always did and still do know whats right keeps people from looking at the rape, murder, torture, killing of children, genocide, mutilation, racism, sexism, xenophobia, homophobia described in the bible as wrong. After all, when Isrealites or 1st century Christians committed these crimes- they were doing the will of God. Only good parental programming and indoctrination can teach a person that these acts are the actions of a "loving" God.

A rational, non-indoctrinated person would automatically see these actions as repulsive.