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  Rutherfordian Science

  by AlanF in

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  the wise man j. f. rutherford wrote about the "cause of the flood" in his 1927 book creation (pp.

  here he informed us of "jehovah's" view of the scientific "annular flood theory" of one isaac newton vail, which the watchtower society had been promoting for decades:.

  annular means that which has the form of a ring, or ring-shaped.

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  Alan,

  Your response to YK was brilliant as always. I took the time recently to re-read your essays on the flood and came away shaking my head and wondering why anyone, if they took the time to read your material and other essays like it could ever believe in a worldwide flood as described by the Bible.

  Let the board note this: Alan did not write his comments on the flood vis as vis ancient animal finds for the benefit of You Know. You Know is a totally lost soul who is quite content with thinking and acting like a unenlightened moron. Alan writes for the benefit of others who are actually interested in learning science and how it applies to Bible stories. Those of you who actually take the time to read his many excellent essays will benefit immensely. I've never seen anyone (much less a dub) step forward and actually debunk his research, his arguments or his evidence. That alone speaks volumes about the quality of his work. A lot of people hate Alan. This is good. It means Alan is on top of his job. These same people hate pesky evidence that disproves their cherished fantasies and superstitions. There are only a few reasons for that: people can't debunk them because they are actually able to understand iron-clad arguments and fast facts, or people are just too lazy to check out the information and references he provides and want to continue to believe in tooth-fairies and worldwide floods no-matter-what.

  In the case of dubs, the later will almost always be the case. That's why we call them "braindead." They simply refuse to exercise their minds and continue to believe sewage provided by ancient legalistic pharisees in Brooklyn who not only don't understand science, they hate it because science demolishes their "faith. By the way, half of those Brooklyn pharisees (GB) never even made it through High School and as the evidence has shown, all the "Holy Spirit" in the world cannot compensate for their lack of education and their foolish notions of what really happened in ancient days.

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  GREETINGS

  by josephus in

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  its been a long time, but i am back for more chat.. hi to all who remember me from the old h20 (except youknow) is he here ?.

  im am still a nonattender.

  yeeeeh.. the evil elder who tried to remove me and my brother got removed himself !.

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  Greetings again Josephus!

  It's good to see you again! I hope you stick around and play with us. All of the old H20 regulars are here now.

  Farkel
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  Haven't you got anything better to do?

  by tedcobb in

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  obviously a lot of you are no longer jws, for whatever reason, but surely you can find something better to do with your time.

  you seem to spend a lot of your spare time slating the society or picking holes in your former beliefs.. if you've left and think what jws believe is a load of rubbish, thtat fine, you cn do what you want, but why you have to go on about it?

  if being a jw means so little to you, why not just leave it behind and get on with your life?

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  To the Guy after the second son,

  : Answer the following questions by marking true or false:

  Ok! I'll take that dare before I foist it off on some dumb-dubbies!

  : 1. C.T. Russell and the Bible students believed Christ would return in 1914?

  Of course he did. Look, if Christ could return invisibly in 1874 then why in-the-hell couldn't he return invisibly in 1914? And if the "saints" could be invisibly resurrected in 1878 when why-in-the hell couldn't they be invisibly resurrected in 1918? Duh!

  : 2. The Golden Age (now Awake) repeatable extolled the virtues of aluminum cookware?

  Of course they did, and they were among the first to also report the severe damage caused by many germs and bacteria and stood at the vanguard of extolling the virtues of vaccinations, organ transplants and modern science. Just read their stuff and you'll see God's hand in every word. Certainly Jehovah had a hand in their work at that time. Heck, they were the first to promote the indisputable fact that the heart is the seat of all of our emotions. Any dummy should have figured that out, but the society took the risk or going against the demonized scientists of the day to write the truth about those things.

  : 3. Russell was a Greek scholar?

  Yes he was. He knew exactly three letters of the Greek alphabet and that's a lot more than Fred Hall knows.

  : 4. Fred Franz was a Rhodes scholar?

  Yes he was. The Rhodes Foundation accepted his first submittal, which included critical information necessary for him to qualify, namely, his name, address and the fee necessary for them to evaluate his name and address.

  : Underline the statement that correctly completes the following sentences:

  : 1. JF Rutherford predicted the return of the “Princes” in (1918, 1925, 1975)?

  JF Rutherford predicted the return of the “Princes” in (1918, 1925, 1975)?

  That was EASY! Give me something difficult!

  : 2. Fred Franz predicted the end of the world (years and decades, centuries, weeks or months) after the end of 1975?

  He had at least two or three dozen MORE predictions in the works. Then he died and his bad dressing habits died with him. Pity.

  : 3. J.F. Rutherford had a residence called (Beth’ el, Beth-Sarim, Beth-Shan)? (No, the out-house was not called Beth-Shittah...Insight Book page 305)

  Idiot. Those homes were called "Beth Drunks" and "Beth Drunks II" which in Hebrew means "Beth Drunks" and "Beth Drunks II." Joe liked women by the name of "Beth."

  : 4. The “Generation” of Mathew 24:34 is (all of the people age 15 and over in 1914, all of the people born in or prior to 1914, everybody who has ever lived since 1914 and is still alive now and in the future)?

  All of the above and more.

  : 5. The Great Pyramid if Gizeh is (God’s stone Witness, predicted the coming of Armageddon in 1914, predicted the coming of Armageddon in 1915)?

  Yes it did. There was an earthquake and it shifted two pyramid-inches. Don't you khow ANYTHING?

  : 6. The men of Sodom will ( be resurrected, not be resurrected, will live or die depending on the tacking of the holy spirit)?

  Yes they will. No they won't. What part of that do you not understand. It is as simple as pie, yet for some is quite "spiritually deep."

  Geeesh. That was too easy.

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  What are the political climate/stuggles at Bethel?

  by slipnslidemaster in

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  what is the relationship of ted jarecz to don adams?.

  how do the various committees interact?

  what would an insider's view of the day to day running look like?.

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  : What is the relationship of Ted Jarecz to Don Adams?

  Don Adams is a decent man trying to do the right thing, although he's fighting the wrong battle. Ted Jaracz is an asshole trying to maintain his iron grip and absolute power in the WTS.

  Ted Jaracz has only ONE genuine friend and that friend is a brother in NYC who is not even in Bethel from what I've been told by someone who knows. Just about everyone else hates his guts and is afraid of him and what he can do to them if they piss him off.

  Get rid of Jaracz and the society will have an opportunity to effect some meaningful changes. Let him rule and we'll have more of the same shit that we've seen at this year's District Assemblies: guilt and blame and DO MORE. Always DO MORE. Or God will kill you.

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  Convention Apostatizing Brings Gestapo Response

  by outnfree in

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  my flyers merely said: if as a jehovahs witness, a member of your family has been molested information is available for further information see: www.silentlambs.org or call 1-877-wtabuse.. nothing overtly inflammatory, actually more like a public service announcement.. i guess thats what most of the local organizers and friends thought in my neck of the, woods for the first two days of the district convention!

  but once the 'friends' realized that the website i was promoting with my flyers and moving car billboard was not an approved wt site, the powers that be got ... well ... pissed is the word!.

  nobody bothered me on friday as i went smiling about my posting flyers on the light and utility poles on the routes to/from the convention site.

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  Greetings jst2laws,

  : Now I hope only to have the guts you have to be a ‘people like you’.

  You already have the heart and moral grounding to notice a grave wrong when you see it. Having the "heart" is the biggest part and once you have that, the "guts" will easily follow when you feel the time is right.

  Fading away is best. And if you don't already know all the tricks to keep the Nazis from hounding you and attempting to make you play the game their way, just ask in here. Many of us can help you in that area. As you have no doubt already noticed, the society is doing all they can to distance themselves liability-wise from the elders.

  Therefore, your roue is not them these days. The elders are generally uneducated blue-collar types who are quite aware that a lawsuit or even the threat of one will cost them dearly to defend. The society couldn't care less if any elders get sued personally. They only care about themselves and their Corporate Interests(tm). That is a big advantage for people like you these days. Don't let them mess with you. If they try, mess with them back. You have all the legal cards, because you would be their victim. Never forget that you have all the cards and they are dealing deuces and treys to themselves.

  How your JW family members would deal with your defection is only something that you know. I was very fortunate. My parents and sister never shunned me, but then again, I successfully faded away. I lost all my lifetime "friends," but then again, they turned out not to be genuine friends at all. WT "love" and WT "friendship" is the most conditional love and friendship I've ever experienced in my life. When it comes to putting those "just two laws," into practice JWs at large are rank apostates. Such a simple concept yet it is in fact foreign to JWs in the practice of their sad lives.

  If at all possible, don't DA or put yourself in a position to get DFd. To do so is to acknowledge that you are letting them play their game by their rules. If you want to leave their game, then don't play by their rules when you are trying to do so. Put yourself in the frame of mind that their rules are no longer binding upon you and no longer relevant to you. In doing so, you take away all their power you've given them over your life and your choices.

  I wish you the best of luck in whatever you decide. (Yeah, I can use the word "luck." I ain't seen any lightning from heaven headed for me yet!)

  Farkel
  "Good Fortune" Class (HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! What's the damn difference?!)
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  I Got An Email From A "Brother"

  by silentlambs in

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  first email........ yes, don't be a silentlamb.

  speak out when people are doing the.

  molesting, not years later.. that is ridiculous for an adult to say that when they were a child, someone molested her/him.

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  Nice pic Maxiumus.

  Nate is smiling. Hmmmmm. He must have just trimmed the entire Bethel family!

  Tell Freddie to get with it clothing-wise. He dresses so dorky. And tell Lyman to take a lawnmower and trim his eyebrows. Oh, I forget they're both dead.

  Nevermind.....

  Farkel
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  Hi, I'm New!

  by Ashley in

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  my name is ashley and i'm 17 years old.

  i'm from abbotsford b.c., canada (an hour out of vancouver).

  i have blond hair and blues eyes, thin, 5'5.

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  It looks like Ashley is history here. She just had too much encouragement. She's not used to stuff like that. She went back to the whips and chains and guilt trips from the Watchtower Money-and-Guilt-Trip-Machine and even worse, pioneering.

  Pioneering leads to window washing and welfare. This is not good. She's only 17 fer Christ's sake. Will the WTS screw her life up for their glory, too? Gawd, I hope she wises up.

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  Convention Apostatizing Brings Gestapo Response

  by outnfree in

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  my flyers merely said: if as a jehovahs witness, a member of your family has been molested information is available for further information see: www.silentlambs.org or call 1-877-wtabuse.. nothing overtly inflammatory, actually more like a public service announcement.. i guess thats what most of the local organizers and friends thought in my neck of the, woods for the first two days of the district convention!

  but once the 'friends' realized that the website i was promoting with my flyers and moving car billboard was not an approved wt site, the powers that be got ... well ... pissed is the word!.

  nobody bothered me on friday as i went smiling about my posting flyers on the light and utility poles on the routes to/from the convention site.

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  GRRRRRREAT Experience! I loved it! Good job!

  : By Sunday morning when I arrived with the added attraction of the flyer reproduced 200%, laminated and taped to the side of my van, the flyers had been torn down!!!

  "Surely, in the interest of finding truth, examining one's own religion and what it teaches and does is the proper thing to do, isn't it? The Holy Scriptures make it clear that such is our obligation" - WT Bullshit, frequently stated

  : By the time we got to the corner, my son said, “Someone’s following us!” “What!? So?” “I mean, they’re following us and taking down the flyers!” I checked my rear view mirror, and did, indeed see Brother Blueshirt hopping out of a van, dashing to a light pole, and fairly running to hop back in and on to the next light pole!

  "Surely, in the interest of finding truth, examining one's own religion and what it teaches and does is the proper thing to do, isn't it? The Holy Scriptures make it clear that such is our obligation" - WT Bullshit, frequently stated

  : We carried on to that busy intersection where the flyers had been torn down AGAIN!

  "Surely, in the interest of finding truth, examining one's own religion and what it teaches and does is the proper thing to do, isn't it? The Holy Scriptures make it clear that such is our obligation" - WT Bullshit, frequently stated

  : I rolled down the window and Brother C. tells me that I must stop posting. I say, “I don’t think so. It’s called freedom of speech.” “But you cannot post on private property!” “I am not posting on private property! I’m posting on light poles and telephone poles!”

  "Surely, in the interest of finding truth, examining one's own religion and what it teaches and does is the proper thing to do, isn't it? The Holy Scriptures make it clear that such is our obligation" - WT Bullshit, frequently stated

  : Not trying to intimidate, eh? THEY TAILED US!!!!

  "Surely, in the interest of finding truth, examining one's own religion and what it teaches and does is the proper thing to do, isn't it? The Holy Scriptures make it clear that such is our obligation" - WT Bullshit, frequently stated

  If from this, anyone cannot figure out that the Watchtower Printing and Magazine-$elling Corporation are a pack of liars and hypocrites, then they deserve exactly what they get.

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  A sad story

  by Lee Elder in

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  lord hold me up, my mother is dying.

  i cried and told bob, "my mom is going to die".

  some offered prayer, others hope, and they helped us to help mom die.

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  Farkel

  Thanks for sharing that, Lee.

  This is perhaps one of the best statements of JW life that I've ever seen....

  : You see being a JW means all your relationship are based on what you do, not who you are. You never experience love from others nor do you have a personal relationship with God. All your activity, your view and your friendships are based on the works you do. You never lay your head on the pillow at night with a good feeling about your life because tomorrow you have to wake up and work again, because you can loose your relationship with Jehovah with one action or breaking one of the JW'S rules.

  ...and it is a very sick way to live one's life.

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  Haven't you got anything better to do?

  by tedcobb in

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  obviously a lot of you are no longer jws, for whatever reason, but surely you can find something better to do with your time.

  you seem to spend a lot of your spare time slating the society or picking holes in your former beliefs.. if you've left and think what jws believe is a load of rubbish, thtat fine, you cn do what you want, but why you have to go on about it?

  if being a jw means so little to you, why not just leave it behind and get on with your life?

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  Farkel

  Little dubbies,

  You commented several times that we don't do our own research, which of course, implies that you do. We'll let's just have a little test for you then, shall we?

  I can give you zillions of quotes from the WT magazine when it says that no true religion should have anything fear from someone doing research into it. That obviously includes dubs, right? Well, let's see how easy it is for you to study your own religion's history.

  Go to your kingdom hall or any kingdom hall that has a substantial library and say you are most interest in doing some deep study into what Charles Russell and Joseph Rutherford wrote. Ask if you borrow the studies in the scriptures and whatever Rutherford books they have in the library.

  Watch what they do when you ask. Many dubs have tried this and immediately the elders go into the "third degree mode" and want to know exactly WHAT they want to accomplish by studying those old publications. WHAT are their motives? WHY do they feel they need to learn about what was taught back in those days?

  If your elders are like most, that's exactly the same reaction you'll get from them.

  As such, your own religion often PREVENTS you folks from doing any research even from their OWN PUBLICATIONS.

  That considered, it's pretty arrogant of you to accuse us of not doing our own research, when all of those publications and even the oldest of WT magazines are readily available.

  The first 6 of studies in the scriptures, and scans of most watchtowers from 1879 through 1916 are all available on line. FOR FREE.

  Yet try to check them out from your very own Kingdom Hall. That's a dare, BTW.

  There will be a quiz later.

  Farkel