Posts by Farkel

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Do You Think It Possible That A Member Of Governing Body Would Ever Commit Suicide Because Of The Pain From Cognitive Dissonance?

by frankiespeakin in

i think as things get real tuff for the governing body that the build up of stress from dealing with a corporation founded on lies and manipulation of people that is comming to a head and all the lawsuits and possible criminal prosecution and the day today pressure of having all your decision back fire on you.. the final stage of wishful thinking is the nightmare stage where the whole delusion falls apart.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/wishful_thinking.

i'm thinking just like hitler killed himself rather than face life anymore, that some on the gb may reach that stage..

Farkel

Why do people ask, and better yet, why do people bother to answer hypothetical questions?

That's what I'd like to know.

Farkel

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I'm Perfect, You're Doomed - a review

by Farkel in

"i'm perfect, you're doomed" by kyria abrahams, 2009, touchstone.. if you want a way to get people out of that horrible cult, easily, quickly and expeditiously, then here is how to do that.. i can say with a vote of confidence that anyone who reads this book will never and i mean never become a dub.

dubs who read it (assuming they have at least one or two brain cells left) will run from their religion like flies on shit when you pour bleach on it and blow it up with dynamite.. toss away crisis of conscience, apocalypse delayed, 30 years a watchtower slave and all those other very nice books and read this one.

i read those and all the other ones.

Farkel

Angrahad,

Thank you so much. I had thought this topic was derailed.

Farkel

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I'm Perfect, You're Doomed - a review

by Farkel in

"i'm perfect, you're doomed" by kyria abrahams, 2009, touchstone.. if you want a way to get people out of that horrible cult, easily, quickly and expeditiously, then here is how to do that.. i can say with a vote of confidence that anyone who reads this book will never and i mean never become a dub.

dubs who read it (assuming they have at least one or two brain cells left) will run from their religion like flies on shit when you pour bleach on it and blow it up with dynamite.. toss away crisis of conscience, apocalypse delayed, 30 years a watchtower slave and all those other very nice books and read this one.

i read those and all the other ones.

Farkel

"I'm Perfect, You're Doomed" by Kyria Abrahams, 2009, Touchstone.

If you want a way to get people out of that horrible cult, easily, quickly and expeditiously, then here is how to do that.

I can say with a vote of confidence that anyone who reads this book will NEVER and I mean NEVER become a dub. Dubs who read it (assuming they have at least one or two brain cells left) will run from their religion like flies on shit when you pour bleach on it and blow it up with dynamite.

Toss away Crisis of Conscience, Apocalypse Delayed, 30 Years a Watchtower Slave and all those other very nice books and read this one. I know. I read those and all the other ones. I have also read all the "poor me. I was so screwed up growing up as a dub and so maltreated." (I am one of them as most ex-dubs are one of them, and our stories are so common as to become boring, if not unbelievable to those who haven't been one of us.) I have also read excellent books by Carl Jonnson and ISOCF by Ray Franz. They are great for the mind, but this book is far more visceral and it doesn't require much in the way of thinking to get the wallop that it delivers.

This book is a MUST READ book, and I do not say that lightly. I do not say anything lightly.

This book is also so funny, hilarious even and I am tempted to cite even a fraction of what Kyria Abrahams, the author, wrote, here. But that is hard to do. The whole darn book is hilarious. If I were to cite only a little bit of my favorite parts in her book, I would be guilty of copyright infringement, viz. the "Fair Use" Act! She is a genius in capturing the essence of dubism. No one, and I mean NO one (not even ME, ahem!) has done it better than she. I feel like a putz writer after reading her book. Then again, I was probably a putz writer to begin with.

Her story is breezy, refreshing, non-judgmental and there is not a hint of doctrinal bullshit prostelyzing. Nor is there a hint of angst or whining in her story. This is one tough lady!

If I was a million years younger, I would like to parallel park with her just about anywhere. Including on Main Street at high noon. Sigh.

Furthermore, she has her facts right, even down to the middling ones. For example, when she talks about celebrating Birthdays, she points out that technically speaking, celebrating one's birthday is not a disfellowshipping offense. ("There are NO laws in Oceana" - George Orwell, "1984")

Later in her book it gets a little darker, but not so much that it makes the reader want to close it and weep. Mostly, however it is a romp of humor and lightness and a light parody of all things dub, albeit disturbingly and distressingly true. Scarily true, even.

When I was reading this book, I thought I should dog-ear the pages which would be hilarious enough to cite in a thread. I soon realized that nearly every page would have a little fold at the top.

So I had to go over the book again and find a few excerpts to cite on this thread. I only got through a few pages in this book before I had more-than-enough stuff to share with you. This is probably not even the best and funniest stuff, either. But it is a tease of what her delightful book offers.

p. 7: "Dad called out God's name so many times during a single prayer that one might wonder if, in addition to being the creator of the universe, God wasn't also suffering from ADD."

On her first "talk" at age 8 in the Theocratic Ministry School (p. 7): "It was for both adults and children alike, and was not considered a replacement for our actual elementary school, which we attended in order to perfect our arithmetic skills and learn how to be hated for being different."

p. 9: "...our church was unequivocally referred to as the Kingdom Hall..'Kingdom Vinyl-Sided Ranch House' sounded stupid.'"

p.10: "Joining the Theocratic Ministry School was a mandatory privilege, something we were supposed to do before being allowed to knock on doors and ask people if they knew they'd accidentally chosen the wrong religion."

On women and the Theocratic Ministry School (p.13): "Facing the Congregation = uppity and sinful. Ninety degrees clockwise = making Jehovah's heart smile."

The whole bit on when she discovered the joys of masturbation at age seven is worth the whole price of admission, and it goes uphill from
there!

This book is worthy of as many stars as those people who pass out stars give, folks!

Farkel

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Who is your favorite "Apostate"? Who helped you see the truth about "The Truth"?

by minimus in

jw
friends

i would have to say that ray franz was the biggest influence for me.. when i first got on this board, a poster by the name of james, a former bethelite and organization heavy, helped me understand a lot of the inner workings in the upper echelons of the society.. .

and of course, farkel's common sense approach was (usually) helpful..

Farkel

Fernando,

You wrote:

:Jesus. The real Jesus.

So the REAL Jesus is your favorite apostate?

Strange.

Farkel

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why did jehovahs witness stop having assemblies at dodgers stadium

by loosie in

does anyone know why the jw's stopped having the conventions at dodgers stadium in los angles in the early 1990's?

i was curious.

since i was a sister i wasn't in the know.

Farkel

:why did jehovahs witness stop having assemblies at dodgers stadium Because after the assemblies and the stadium started having baseball games again, the fans complained the stadium was demonized and when the janitorial staff found left-over Watchtower litterachure from the assemblies and started to burn it, it screamed hideous screams and refused to burn. That's why. Farkel

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Simon: help please

by Farkel in

my last two posts were not parsed with a cr/lf.

all the sentences ran together with no cr/lfs.

i'm still using chrome with xp-pro and until today, everything worked perfectly.

Farkel

Simon, My last two posts were not parsed with a CR/LF. All the sentences ran together with no CR/LFs. I'm still using Chrome with XP-Pro and until today, everything worked perfectly. (CR/LF to follow below:) What's up? (CR/LF to follow below:) Farkel

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Are there ever any scriptural reasons why a man would get a separation from his wife?

by CrackingTheWhip in

*** lv pp.

220-221 the bibles view on divorce and separation ***.

willful nonsupport.

Farkel

cracking the whip, This was your assertion for your argument: :Willful nonsupport. :Extreme physical abuse. :Absolute endangerment of spiritual life. Your argument has virtually NOTHING to do with that assertion. Your argument not only falls, it is pathetically out-in-left field related to your assertion. Your so-called argument is personal to you (i.e. it makes you feel good about it) and has nothing to do with the assertions you presented to support it. Try again, but do better next time. Farkel

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MUST SEE VIDEO: "Read God's Word the Bible Daily" sign removed from Brooklyn, NY Watchtower Bldgs

by disfellowshipped1 in

http://tmblr.co/zsx0ostmun3w.

hundreds were present in brooklyn to see this event..

Farkel

It's a beautiful thing. A hundred plus years of a "rich spiritual heritage" erased by a few gallons of paint.

It's poetic, even.

Farkel. Happified CLASS

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San Diego are you awake?

by nicsfreedom in

jw
friends

currently we need 50+ people to reserve a seat for the sd premier of "truth be told".

invite anyone you know and please inform them to go through the tugg site below to ensure the event will happen.. http://www.tugg.com/events/5192.

.

Farkel

Does anyone know about a cheap place to live in San Diego these days. I lived there for over 40 years, but don't think I can afford it today. I would almost kill to get back there.

I lived on the beaches for years, PB, OB, Bird Rock, Crown Point, but I would consider North Park, Normal Heights, University Heights, and even Chula Vista, just to be back there. Even National City if someone would let me borrow a gun. Logan Heights is out, but Lemon Grove would be acceptable.

Any ideas, suggestions? Any codger housing that might accommodate this codger today?

Farkel

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Poor Carly Simon

by Hortensia in

she looks so stiff and old next to taylor swift.

geriatric singer/songwriter.

nice to see them sing the song together, though.

Farkel

The prevalent rumor is that Carly was singing about Warren Beatty in that song; Beatty was an infamous womanizer of that era.

: She looks so stiff and old next to Taylor Swift. Geriatric singer/songwriter. Nice to see them sing the song together, though.

She looked pretty damn good to me, all things considered. One cannot not do a thing about their age, you know. It just IS. Her voice still sounded strong and clear.

She is a few years older than I. I wistfully observed the other day that the only odds worse than winning the Lottery for me was that I would get laid by a woman who 1) wasn't in a wheelchair and 2) didn't suffer from Alzheimers disease, let alone a Taylor Swift! I'm still holding out for a Taylor Swift, which to put it bluntly, means I will die a virgin!

So there!

Farkel, with sparkle