Being middle aged and void of happy memories. What life?
The religion lives like a parasite in your family feeding on happiness!
R.Crusoe
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WHILE STILL A WITNESS, DID YOU POSTPONE YOUR LIFE UNTIL THE NEW ORDER?
by nvrgnbk indid you, even in subtle ways, stop living now, "putting all of your eggs" in one basket- the paradise earth?
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were you so busy with "theocratic activities" that you planned to actually enjoy life once the new system arrived..
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My Story (in detail)
by KW13 inits sometimes hard for us ex-dubs to share our stories and even harder for those who can't leave the organization and need to vent.
i would encourage all those with a story to tell to do so, i'd really enjoy reading it as i do already read the stories you all shared.. i grew up without my dad and almost without my mum since she was always out drinking or doing something else.
we've been homeless and without money, for years no one in the family had a telephone and my dad offered the sum total of 1.50 a week in child support before running away to american for a few years, abandoning his responsibilities (which he successfully evaded right up to me being too old to need or want his help).
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R.Crusoe
Love is the key to everyones pain! A caring love you can see in a persons eyes and in how they relate and look out for how you're feeling. That kind of love can move mountains in forgiveness and understanding, but only when it's both ways. If you've found that then I'm so pleased for you and your marriage. Funnily enough I know a few people who love each other and have been together for years without the ceremony. To me they have all they need in this life. Anything else is a bonus!
My mum isn't a JW but never in my life have we been able to have a realstic conversation. I've always tried, so many times it hurts, but it isn't gonna happen. I'm mid 40s and shes in her 60s now. People due to the permutation of their life events, end up with brains that think and hearts that feel so differently to each other. As we know, if they're in your family the hurt is deep and lasts. Add to that my JW years and ....forget it!
Hope you n your mum get to a better position but meantime...
Have fun with your child and bride, which I'm sure you will. Love life and it loves you back!
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Is being a Jehovahs Witness sometimes a good thing..............
by fifi40 into explain this thread i need to tell a sad and horrific story about someone that was once a friend...............for the sake of privacy i will refer to her as carol.. i met carol in the about 1990. i was not a jw (had left when i was 16 and unbaptised).
i was suffering with panic attacks, i think for many reasons but mainly because i had recently lost my dad and took it very hard.
i lived with my then boyfriend, who later became my husband in a town in south yorkshire.
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R.Crusoe
The Truth appeared as a perfect haven for her from her sad world, but when it didn't tick in time with her soul and persona ,as she only found out after submerging herself in it, she wasn't helped back into society, she felt like an utter and complete reject. Failed in her former life and now thrown out by God and his people. A destroyed soul with no hope and a complete hatred of herself because she had nothing left in her that she felt she could offer to her children to better their futures. Life had wasted her and all she needed was love and support - unconditionally! Fuck the rules!
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I never have done right by you...
by Sparkplug inin talking to my mom the other day (who is doing so well btw) she turned to me and said straight and as sane as can be, "i have never done right by you, don't do as i have done to you to you kids.
" she got teary eyed and i changed the subject fast because i did not know how to take it nor could i talk with the big lump in my throat.
i have known this my whole life, and i don't even speak it as plain as she has spoken it, but hearing out of her mouth as she sits in her wheelchair and knowing she means it from her heart and from pure love, well it messed me up a bit.
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R.Crusoe
If you've had a very unhappy childhood, marriage and have grown up kids who are mixed up with religion looking at you wishing it had been different and there's nothing you can do to change it, you're on an island of regret waiting for a ship that's never gonna come in.
Best thing you can do, if you feel it is tell her that you love her and mean it! Love can take away so much pain. Silence and rejection is the sharpest two edged sword in humanity. The pain it causes lasts lifetimes. Talking and caring are the best weapons to blunt it's blade!
Hope you find something in your hearts to carry you through.
Ray
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In bed with a WT clone
by Axeman ini married a jw convert.
looking back it was if she related to me and the kids like we were a duty like she was reading a scrip on how to relate to us.
like her love ( if you can call it that ) depended on how well we performed as witnesses.
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R.Crusoe
A mirror image of your experience.
It's as if they're reluctant to let go of some 'religious list in their head'. Intimacy is not on the menu in realtime. All this conditioning about what it's ok to think /do / not do takes any relaxed free-love away. And if the occasional time goes too well it's as if guilt is in the air. Crazy - I don't believe it really, looking back. What a ballacher! Makes a person feel so matter of fact and rejected it's shocking. That religion takes the life out of living for a lot of people! And in everywhich way imaginable. Planting ideas in partners heads they then can't discuss with them in case they turn their minds to sinful desire or some crazy version of it! Give me a break!
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R.Crusoe
It is difficult to really be in love with a woman you don't understand. You may love her but for as long as you're trying to get to know her, if that love isn't reciprocated so that you know it, things will fall apart.
For me, trying to get to know Jehovah has been that kind of journey - being told all the clues are in this Bible which is hard to fathom which is why I think the WTB&TS advise followers to take their interpretation as 'The Gradual Awakening' of 'Jesus chosen ones' and rest all your trust in their interpretation. They do this to save your from your own self torture in trying to work it all out. Trouble is, the reason you joined them in the first place was examining extensively the history of other faiths in order to reveal their untruths to you. So then asking you to completely give up any questionings you are wrestling with is a big ask. And then ripping up your personal life when that doesn't sit too well with you is an even bigger ask!
So no, I never really knew their God in a way that I could confidently go to others and say 'Look I've got the best news of your life....' In a way I could say I really love this God I can tell you about!
I feel I love a loving God but I'm lost as to what he wants with me! I think he may have given up on me and decided I need to go play a while in the time I've got left! Que Sera.
I wanted to love Jehovah and his firstborn angel Jesus, but I just don't understand it all in a coherent way. Feel like I'm teaching others how to hardwire a PC. I just don't know enough or understand it well enough to get someone else to give up their life based on my thoughts -and it's likely not gonna work to well at the end!
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It's not bad, it's good. ....no, really.
by ozziepost intake a look at this from the wt's own site:.
such an examination will show that instead of bringing a cataclysmic end, armageddon will introduce a happy beginning for people who desire to live and thrive in a righteous new world.
you will be rewarded with a clear understanding of this vital scriptural truth as you consider the discussion of armageddons real meaning in the next article.. what do you think armageddon is?a nuclear holocaust an environmental disaster a collision of a celestial body with the earth divine destruction of the wicked .
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R.Crusoe
For 2000 years men and women have been living wondering if it would come in their lifetime and even fighting to the death following their interpretation of their faith. Why should we overload ourselves with this crushing fear of imminent danger. What could we do to prevent it if it occured. Like a tsunami, or earthquake, or a traffic accident or a heart attack - if it's gonna come it's gonna come - so in the meantime look out for love and smile your face off coz you aint gonna get another one lest you can afford the surgery!
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THE FATHERS Of THE NEPHILIM
by badboy inin wt april 15,2007 says`although the nephilim were annihiliated in the flood,their fathers went back to the spirit realm as invisible demons.. _1 peter 3;19,20.. .
interesting question,if demons had children by women,how did they impregnate the women?.
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R.Crusoe
I had it down they took on bodies as extra large men of beauty ( why not women goodness knows) and that after impregnating an Earthly woman, she would die with the birth of the oversized baby she bore. They would grow up to be the Nephilim who could choose their women at will! Don't recall how accurate that is. Anybody looked this up!
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Imaginary Friends can help you get over divorce Apparently
by Crumpet inits been suggested to me by someone who clearly is not aware of my atheism that adopting an imaginary friend could help me find my purpose in life after a relationship breakup.
it annoys and perplexes me although i realise everyone has a right to their own opinion.. however my opinion is this:.
my husband hasnt left me - i've never had a husband and i certainly hope i never have that misfortune or get ill enough to suffer such poor judgement as restricting myself to the bed of one person for the rest of my life when i personally am certainly not willing to keep such a promise.
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R.Crusoe
Far fro being regressive and judgemental of others, Crumpet is exploring her own emotional and psycholgical truth with a zeal for life that ticks with the beat of her own heart and not some set of rulings imposed by the hard to grasp regulation of others, be they relgiously or psychologically derived!
I think you're a fantastic individual Crumpet and so in the moment of your own existence. Go with your heart angel!
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Should suicidal or self destructive people have free will?
by The Dragon inbeen going through my head lately....if you try to prevent them from doing what they want...they see you as the enemy...but are you?.
if you take away their freedom to do so.....are they no longer free?
will they hate you...or thank you when they come to their senses?.
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R.Crusoe
All people are born with free will as is yourself. However others have influenced you to do certain things you would otherwise not have done, wilfully or reluctantly. You yourself have experienced this!
People in hospital with physically debilitating conditions often get no pleasure from waking each day and suicide seems almost a kindness. Like a lame horse or animal who can no longer enjoy life. And if you know it to be their will, seems a valid request!
Others have spent too much of their lives reluctantly doing the will of others till they get to a poit where their own will and wishes have been totally disregarded - as in families where an individual is ostracised. And being made to feel you are a complete failure is more than reason enough to not want to awaken each day. Choices have been denied you and the only choice you're left with is the one pertaining to your own life. Seems an insult to take your right to do that away as well!
So you may feel you are doing a kindness to them, but you may also be taking away any respect they have left - making them feel a total cabbage and not fit to make a decision about anything. The only real way to treat them is to let them have a free will but show them real friendship, trust and love.
These people are often not 'ill'. They're totally unloved, dejected and rejected as the person they are. Most people feel this before they go into WTB&TS land. The last thing they need is the hot branding iron of ostracisation on their brains! They need more acceptance and encouragement to be and discover themselves.
This is complex subject where short answers only skim the surface.