Posts by flipper

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More Inspiring Young Awakenings

by freemindfade in

i just found these vidoes on youtube, maybe you have seen them already, but i thought i would share.

these canadian kids for me are courageous and inspiring.

more excellent public examples of non vitrial apostate awakening.

flipper

FREEMINDFADE- Thanks so much for posting these You Tubes . Very well done by these young folks. In my own JW family about 4 out of 8 from the generational age of 26 to about 42 years of age have exited the JW's. I hope it will be a few more in the years ahead. I have a good feeling about the generation coming up behind me in attaining their freedom. It is you tubes like this that some of that age can google and see that they are not alone in bolting for freedom of mind. Good job

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Do you feel vindicated by the exposure of the WT Society in Australia? It seems like a feeding frenzy on here! I love it. You?

by Wasanelder Once in

are you pleased with the exposure of the society in australia?

do you feel personally vindicated by it?

do you think it gives you credibility with others now that all the things you said were going on, actually are documented?

flipper

Getting in a little late on this discussion - but no, I don't need to feel " personally vindicated " about anything. True justice for the victims and exposure of a criminal organization like the WT Society will vindicate itself AND the child abuse victims, THOSE are the people who need to be vindicated.

Many of us ex-JW's are just messengers getting the word out - we just ask " don't shoot the messenger ". I am satisfied that yes, the WT Society is being exposed for the criminal organization that it is, but there is STILL a lot of payback and injustices committed by the GB and WT leaders that need to be answered for. It's not over by any stretch of the imagination. Not until there are criminal indictments against the WT leaders will I be truly satisfied. And they are put in jail for crimes against humanity. Then I will be somewhat more satisfied. Even more so if the whole organization disintegrates

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Hundreds of JW Child Molesters in Australia not Reported to Police- CNN News you tube

by flipper in

i felt it might be a good idea to post this so that sitting on the fence jw's or jw lurkers can see that this australia jw child abuse news of 1,006 jw child molesters not being reported to police by elders is a reality that has hit mainstream news media.

i thought this report was very well done.

here's the link : http://www.cnn.com/videos/world/2015/07/28/australia-jehovah-witness-sex-abuse-hannigan-lklv.cnn.

flipper

PETE- Good points. I think all we can do at this point as EX-JW's is make it known in our own little areas and contact news media outlets- also local JW kingdom halls leave news printouts in car windshields. Also bulletin boards at marketplaces . I'd E-mail your brother if you wanted me to. He doesn't know me from Adam and I'd just say that we have a list of random people we are E-mailing . Of course he may figure out that you put me up to it, so I don't know. The JW's may not be talking about it in the U.S. here right now- but in my 4 county area I'm going to WORK at getting them to talk about it very soon in a very REAL way

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Royal Commission needs to call GB to personally testify

by RedPillPopper in

the gb needs to be subpenaed to testify just like losch was.

the commission needs to subpena each one individually and make separate fines when each one refuses.

flipper

I agree- the GB needs to be pulled and extricated from their freaking guilded cage in New York and hogtied to Australia to testify. They're so ADEPT at sticking their own foot in their own mouths it would be a riot to watch. Get Lett, Morris the third, and Losch over there - I bet it would get a million hits on google in a heartbeat- then access to WT child abuse information would REALLY get popping ! Bastards

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Hundreds of JW Child Molesters in Australia not Reported to Police- CNN News you tube

by flipper in

i felt it might be a good idea to post this so that sitting on the fence jw's or jw lurkers can see that this australia jw child abuse news of 1,006 jw child molesters not being reported to police by elders is a reality that has hit mainstream news media.

i thought this report was very well done.

here's the link : http://www.cnn.com/videos/world/2015/07/28/australia-jehovah-witness-sex-abuse-hannigan-lklv.cnn.

flipper

I also wanted to mention - even just the fact that two of these JW child abuse victims in the CNN report wanted to commit suicide AFTER they were harshly dealt with by a WT appointed judicial committee of elders- should tell the world and the WT leaders that their tactics are faulty at best, criminal at worst

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Hundreds of JW Child Molesters in Australia not Reported to Police- CNN News you tube

by flipper in

i felt it might be a good idea to post this so that sitting on the fence jw's or jw lurkers can see that this australia jw child abuse news of 1,006 jw child molesters not being reported to police by elders is a reality that has hit mainstream news media.

i thought this report was very well done.

here's the link : http://www.cnn.com/videos/world/2015/07/28/australia-jehovah-witness-sex-abuse-hannigan-lklv.cnn.

flipper

Wanted to bump this thread up from 4 days ago as I've been quite busy so I finally caught back up with it today. Thanks for your replies ! Good thoughts.

ORPHAN CROW- I agree with you. I think the commission officials see fully that JW child abuse victims ARE intimidated to come forward with accusations against pedophiles because of the harsh interrogation process. It's inhumane how victims are treated by WT appointed elders. I hope this commission FORCES the WT Society to change their policies- but I'm not holding my breath- WT leaders usually don't give in very easy- if ever. Very arrogant.

TRUTHSETSONEFREE- Way to go Isaac ! Good job for posting this link on other ex-JW websites. This news NEEDS to be spread. I just dropped off a few copies of the Australia News Releases about the 1,000 JW child molesters at my local Kingdom hall parking lot car windshields. They got a surprise when they got back from field service. I'm going to be hitting a lot more kingdom halls in the next couple weeks in my 3 to 4 county area.

NCC-1701- Yes, I do think the WT Society WILL send at least one GB member over to Australia to do some kind of damage control in front of either the media, or give a talk to JW's at a special assembly or something. Either both or one of those things. To calm the troops down and just say that " Satan has all forms of attacks and persecution on us brothers and sisters ! " You know - THAT kind of damage control so JW's don't think the GB is doing anything illegal.

WHATHEHADAS- I agree, if this doesn't wake up any non-mind controlled JW's nothing will. But it's amazing- different scenarios wake different people up where sometimes the obvious doesn't. It's weird.

ON THE WAY OUT- Good point. I wonder HOW your wife would respond if she saw the 1,000 Australian JW Child Abusers not reported headline on your computer ? Let us know her response if you get a response, should be interesting.

VIDIOT- Yeah, I've been hashtagging the shit out of this Australia child abuse thing on google to keep it fresh and at the top. Good point

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LURKING JW: Thinking of leaving? Learn from my experience.

by SnakesInTheTower in

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friends

"mental wondering in the wilderness"... uh oh.... it's a long post from snakes.... lol.

yep... i think that is the best way to describe where i am at in life right now.

if you have read my past posts (mostly in the private section) you know some of my history as a life-long (now former) witness.. i have been away from the jw religion, for all intents and purposes, since dec. 06, though it was not until sept 07 that i stopped attending meetings.

flipper

Hi, Snakes! Long time...nice to see you here.

Look forward to your story - it's a good one.

Mrs. Flip

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Article: Reveal News Organization: JWs Cover-Up of Child Sex Abuse and Oust a Victim

by AndersonsInfo in

https://www.revealnews.org/article/jehovahs-witnesses-cover-up-child-sex-abuse-and-oust-a-victim/.

jehovahs witnesses cover up child sex abuse and oust a victim.

topics: criminal justice / religion .

flipper

This story just sums up what the watchtower is all about. Over the past 8 years I've heard so many similar stories that it doesn't surprise me at all.

That is so disgusting.

Most jws will mindlessly tune out these stories by robotically repeating the crap in the latest preemptive damage control articles and talks. Those witnesses probably consider that propaganda to be "warnings from Jehovah".

I think it will do more good to get this out to the public. Not only will they confront jws about it but will be less likely to join this cult.

Heartbreaking to think about all the children being raised in this corrupt religion.

Mrs. Flipper

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Article: Reveal News Organization: JWs Cover-Up of Child Sex Abuse and Oust a Victim

by AndersonsInfo in

https://www.revealnews.org/article/jehovahs-witnesses-cover-up-child-sex-abuse-and-oust-a-victim/.

jehovahs witnesses cover up child sex abuse and oust a victim.

topics: criminal justice / religion .

flipper

The hypocrisy of the child molester Lawrence disfellowshipping Debbie McDaniel while he was still an elder who was molesting children is astounding. Debbie's quote, " I thought it ironic that the man who molested me was now going to oust me to keep his congregation clean. "

WT leaders indoctrinate this type of hypocritical thinking into elders who wink their eyes at their own wrongdoing - yet bring the hammer down on rank & file JW members. Especially when child abuse is involved regarding other elders or WT appointed men in power positions - even many long time elders go speechless , go silent and take the 5th amendment. Not even reporting it to police many times. The legal hammer needs to be brought thundering down onto this WT organization in a very large manner

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Article: Reveal News Organization: JWs Cover-Up of Child Sex Abuse and Oust a Victim

by AndersonsInfo in

https://www.revealnews.org/article/jehovahs-witnesses-cover-up-child-sex-abuse-and-oust-a-victim/.

jehovahs witnesses cover up child sex abuse and oust a victim.

topics: criminal justice / religion .

flipper

BARBARA - Thanks for posting this article. Absolutely astonishing and nauseating at the same time. Yet this same story can be repeated thousands of times within the Jehovah's Witness organization.

Just like the lady in Australia who recounted her own JW father's abusing of her and how ALL of her former friends- JW's - sided with her molester father- this same thing happened in this account of Debbie McDaniel where even her own parents sat next to her molester Lawrence in court supporting him and refused to even make eye contact with Debbie.

This organization needs to be brought down in a real forceful way. The inhumanity the WT leaders display is inculcated into every single rank & file member of the JW organization whereby you have a bunch of little miniature control freak judgmental Hitler's running around judging anything and anybody negatively who doesn't kowtow or agree or cooperate with WT Society's views- including the hiding of child abuse.

I truly hope Debbie, her wife and daughter can go on living a happier, successful life as years go on - but just running into Lawrence again walking free as a criminal child molester in the store just opens up old wounds and I'm sure she feels abused again ! The lack of justice is astounding. In my opinion there should be no " statue of limitations " on child abuse. There's no statue of limitations on murder- they research " cold cases " in murder- why not child abuse as well ? Disgusting