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  In one sentence, can you pinpoint a single event that woke you up?

  by Brian J in

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  my turning point: serving on a child abuse judicial case.

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  Injustices committed by JW elders towards me and others - it woke me the hell up that no such thing as " appointment by holy spirit exists "
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  Personal opinions spouted from the platform?

  by purrpurr in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  have you ever heard some brothers own ideas and opinions spouted from the platform?

  perhaps off brand or crazy ones?

  some that i've heard is:.

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  FLORIDABORN- Mary Poppins was a " witch " ? LOL. Could have fooled me. I thought she was just Julie Andrews with a great singing voice !
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  Please Switch Off Your Critical Thinking

  by pale.emperor in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have an uneasy feeling inside that something is coming this year or the next.

  perhaps a new big announcement that turns jwdom on it's head.. we've seen the statement in the watchtower november 15th, 2013 which said:.

  watchtower november 15th, 2013 - page 20, paragraph 17.. .

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  Great thread Pale Emperor - thanks for posting it. I agree with you that in so many different ways this direction from the WT Society leaders to JW's to turn off their critical thinking is extremely dangerous.

  I feel the WT Society has already accomplished this objective by telling JW's to " donate to the worldwide fund or kingdom interests " . Like Freedom Rocks said at the top of the page, " Another option is GB telling everyone to sell everything they have and give it to the society and then they'll just disappear with the money . "

  I do believe that's a more likely scenario because there's just no transparency whatsoever from the WT Society as to where and what exactly all these JW " donations " are being used for. " Worldwide fund or kingdom interests " could easily be used for the legal defense fund against lawsuits for JW child abuse lawsuits. And not one JW would be made aware of that.

  Imagine you are a JW contributing funds for the Puerto Rico hurricane victims , and later unknown to you these funds are used to defend and protect the WT organization's child molesters. Or your funds are unknown to you- put in some offshore bank accounts for a rainy day fund on the Cayman Islands to protect the WT Society.

  Deception has been a part of this WT organization since 1879. It's part of their mode of operation, not with just failed predictions of " end times " - but snake oil salesmen like C.T. Russell selling " miracle wheat " - which once again caused International Bible students to turn off their critical thinking. Unfortunately mind control cults are as old as the history of man. Governments, religions, marketing of those and of businesses - all zero in on the unsuspecting consumer who get's duped. Very sad, but it's reality. One reason threads like this are great- to make people aware and wake the hell up
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  What Music have you Been Listening to this Last Year ? Post You tubes if you Like !

  by flipper in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wktxjuyiat4.

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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a66kDp7R4yQ.
  
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  Personal opinions spouted from the platform?

  by purrpurr in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  have you ever heard some brothers own ideas and opinions spouted from the platform?

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  This experience wasn't from the platform - but an elder's wife told my mom when I was a young boy that she and her husband wouldn't go see the movie " The Sound of Music " because it had Catholic's in it. This was in the 1960's. My mom told this elders wife that her opinion was ridiculous and that she would see the movie as it didn't bother my mom one bit. My mom was such a kick ass lady- I really miss her. She stood up for her personal rights constantly. And she stood up for my rights all the way to the end of her life. Hell of a mom she was
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  An elder with only one testicle

  by stillin in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i happen to be one of very few people who know of this condition that the man has.

  he had an accident several years ago with some power equipment.

  leviticus 21:20 commands that no man present the bread at the temple with damaged testicles... so?.

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  We on this board had more testicles than all of them. We left the cult
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  An elder with only one testicle

  by stillin in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i happen to be one of very few people who know of this condition that the man has.

  he had an accident several years ago with some power equipment.

  leviticus 21:20 commands that no man present the bread at the temple with damaged testicles... so?.

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  Most elders I knew didn't have any testicles. They never had the balls to do the courageous right thing
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  $5.5 Million to be transferred to World Wide Work from Assembly Hall fund

  by Sour Grapes in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  a letter was read tonight in our kingdom hall that the money that the circuits in the indianapolis area had in savings to build a new assembly hall will now be transferred to the www to build kingdom halls in lands where they are needed and a new assembly hall for us will not be built.. we had a beautiful assembly hall near downtown indy that was paid for.

  it was sold a couple of years ago.

  we were promised a new assembly hall to be built in southern ohio near the indiana border but they can kiss that goodbye now.

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  Bottom line is the WT Society is a dishonest money grabbing corporate organization that is only concerned about their financial viability and survival. If they have to rob Peter to pay Paul ( or rob their own JW members to pay child abuse lawsuits ) they'll do whatever it takes to accomplish that end. There is no conscience in WT leaders , the governing body, or anybody else in the upper level management of this WT organization. It's a criminal organization run by sociopathic individuals
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  Personal opinions spouted from the platform?

  by purrpurr in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  have you ever heard some brothers own ideas and opinions spouted from the platform?

  perhaps off brand or crazy ones?

  some that i've heard is:.

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  Yeah, this was a really huge concern of mine years ago and pissed me off when I was a JW. I got sick and tired of hearing these " armchair quarterback " personal opinions by elders who thought they knew everything. And yes, very often some of these opinions would leak out through the microphone over the platform.

  One of the stupidest ones I heard from an elder was this quote , " It would be better for a brother to have sex with a prostitute than to masturbate , because masturbation is selfish."
  

  I mean, wow. The idiocy that I was an eyewitness to personally among elders while in that JW cult - I could write a freaking book. But the old expression is so true, especially about JW elders or even WT leaders themselves that " opinions are like assholes - everybody has one . " Glad I'm away from the JW madness
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  change.org: Please sign a petition to California State Legislators - Please Introduce Draft Bill to Reform Clergy Privilege

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  https://www.change.org/p/california-state-legislators-please-introduce-draft-bill-to-reform-clergy-privilege?recruiter=855249424&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=share_email_responsive.

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  california state senators and assembly members please introduce draft bill (rn 1803892) to reform california's clergy "penitent communication" privilege statutes to align with appellate court decisions by february 16, 2018.. since 2018 is an election year, this bill will help voters become more informed about politicians' positions on changing societal and institutional cultures by reforming california statutes to prevent child abuse or child sexual abuse, or civil statute of limitation reform in california in 2019.. this bill is intended to increase public safety, prevent abuse survivors from being re-traumatized in religious disciplinary meetings, prevent religious leaders from using "undue influence" to manipulate individuals and discourage reporting of abuse and neglect, and reduce court costs passing judgment on overly broad interpretations of clergy "penitential communication" privilege that attempt to shield a religion or clergy from not fulfilling their duty to report abuse and neglect in california.. thank you,.

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  OUTAHERE- May I ask exactly WHAT you find stupid about petitions being set out to inform the courts and public about the abuse of power and child abuse ? WTF ? Peace out, Mr. Flipper