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  My Story

  by HereIgo in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  my story: i am a 27 year old ex jw.

  former ms and regular pioneer at age 19. i was very active and had many "privileges" including district assembly and circuit assembly parts etc.

  as an example for young people.

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  HereIgo - we camp at Richardson the weekend after 4th of July. Next summer will be the 10th annual apostafest. It is a great time - would love to see you there.

  Of course your jw family would be welcome to visit our camp. (Could be quite a scene!) We could put away the voodoo dolls and stone idol altars and stuff...

  We get a thread going in the winter for anyone who wants to reserve campsites, and we try to get the sites close together. Some stay in hotels, it's not too far to go to Camp Richardson. Some just come for the day. It's totally laid back - everyone does their own thing.

  Mrs. Flipper
  
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  My Story

  by HereIgo in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  my story: i am a 27 year old ex jw.

  former ms and regular pioneer at age 19. i was very active and had many "privileges" including district assembly and circuit assembly parts etc.

  as an example for young people.

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  flipper

  Welcome, HereIgo. Have enjoyed your contributions here.

  So sorry that your family shuns you. They are missing out.

  Seems like you came out of the jws young and with your wits about you, and have a wonderful new family.

  Every July there is an "apostafest" campout at South Lake Tahoe - all ages, families with kids. Hope you can make it someday!

  Mrs. Flipper
  
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  Steve Hassan. Can some one verify if this is true.

  by joe134cd in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  https://culteducation.com/group/1289-general-information/8227-disclaimer-regarding-steve-hassan.html.

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  DATA-DOG- Hassan's advice STILL works if you just read the books and apply the techniques to escape mind control. You don't have to pay for it- information access is free .A person can borrow the books or buy them. No need to go to one of his sessions or hire his services to benefit from the ideas. Therapists, psychiatrists earn money based on others misfortunes- physicians and pharmacy companies do as well- if a cult exit counselor makes money off helping others save their loved ones from a cult - hey he's not alone.

  Lots of religions, new age guru's who offer nothing of benefit make money off of followers who believe in " a pie in the sky " with no value- at least Hassan is offering something of value here. We live in an economic society where business owners ARE going to earn a living doing what they're trained to do
  
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  What would be the perfect song to introduce a JW comedy sketch?

  by usualusername1 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have no idea.... .

  any ideas will help.... .

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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?=8LCcIVtFR6o.
  
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  Who Starts the Great Tribulation - Jehovah or Satan?

  by berrygerry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  who starts the great tribulation - jehovah or satan?.

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  Neither . It never happens. It's a fictitious , imaginary battle created by many religions to control people through fear and guilt
  
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  Are we victims of abuse? Should we even think of ourselves that way?

  by nicolaou in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  abuse is such a serious word and i'd hate to use it lightly so if anyone reading this has suffered physical or sexual abuse please know that i absolutely do not equate religious abuse with your suffering.

  that being said, many of us were lied to and manipulated for decades.

  this cultic 'abuse' has borne fruit in shattered relationships, broken families and estranged children.

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  FREEMINDFADE- Exactly, we are all survivors. Very true. JW life gave us lemons- so after exiting we make kick -ass lemonade ! LOL
  
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  Are we victims of abuse? Should we even think of ourselves that way?

  by nicolaou in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  abuse is such a serious word and i'd hate to use it lightly so if anyone reading this has suffered physical or sexual abuse please know that i absolutely do not equate religious abuse with your suffering.

  that being said, many of us were lied to and manipulated for decades.

  this cultic 'abuse' has borne fruit in shattered relationships, broken families and estranged children.

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  flipper

  Hell yes we were all abused as JW's. Those who don't want to admit that- are sticking their heads in the sand and lying to themselves - farting in denial.

  We were coerced to believe we would " live forever " which is a lie ( check obituaries and Ancestry.com - no one has EVER lived forever- everybody dies. )

  So emotionally we were lied to as " eternal life " was held as a carrot in front of us to manipulate us to believe the OTHER BS doctrines the WT Society taught. And if we disagreed or doubted we were to be looked down upon, cut off from associating with other JW's who believed the lies. That's mental and emotional abuse.

  If THAT wasn't enough a good number of us were either physically abused by being murdered by the WT Society for not taking life saving blood transfusions because we followed their orders , being sexually molested by elders yet it wasn't reported to police authorities, or in the case of JW's in Malawi being murdered for not buying a 25 cent political party card following orders from WT Society leaders. Not to mention thousands of suicides due to the shunning policy of the WT Society. So physical abuse is rampant in the WT Society.

  WT Society is a criminal organization which is guilty of crimes against mankind in a mental, emotional, and physical manner in which they've duped millions of JW's into trusting them to deliver them peace and life eternal. WT Society has delivered nothing but pain, shattered dreams, illusions, divided families, and death all for the sake of keeping a money grubbing organization alive that masquerades as a religion. Clear enough picture ? Peace out, Mr. Flipper
  
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  "Why Did JWs Ignore Princes Drug Additctions?" by Barbara Anderson

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  over a month ago, the associated press in minneapolis reported that counterfeit pills were found at prince’s home.

  some contained powerful opioid fentanyl, a synthetic drug 50 times stronger than heroin found in dozens of pills.

  these and other mislabeled drugs were found in luggage belonging to the late music star.

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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NXBLxZcO2Q.
  
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  "Why Did JWs Ignore Princes Drug Additctions?" by Barbara Anderson

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  over a month ago, the associated press in minneapolis reported that counterfeit pills were found at prince’s home.

  some contained powerful opioid fentanyl, a synthetic drug 50 times stronger than heroin found in dozens of pills.

  these and other mislabeled drugs were found in luggage belonging to the late music star.

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  flipper

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kect4aPpq.
  
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  Question about an elder and if I am crazy

  by life is to short in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  ok so i have a question.

  i was a very, very true believer until i saw the child molesters in my hall and how that whole thing was handled.. my husband is older than i am and had been an elder for 12 when we married.

  so fast forward to 06, we are in a hall where i thought all the elders were ok at the worst and great at the best.

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  flipper

  It is incredibly mean and cowardly to undermine a person's sanity and self worth. Those people are beyond contempt.

  LITS, you are geographically isolated from any real friends, and trying to fight with a bunch of piranhas. Pretty small and worthless people, but lots of them.

  I think you have a lot more trauma to work through than most of us. Like combining the bad experiences of 20 of us. It will take some work and counseling to disconnect from these toxic people but I am sure you will, and soon.
  

  It was bad enough that you were raised as a child with constant abuse both physical and emotional from your parents and jws.

  Then to have the undermining of your self confidence continued by your passive-aggressive husband - he not only encouraged other jws to discount you as a person, but has gaslighted you, telling you your thinking is skewed, your memory is faulty. He either "doesn't remember" some godawful shit he did, or it was a long time ago, or it was no big deal.

  Well it was all a really big deal. You recently interviewed several counselors and found a good one. It takes some courage to dive into this shit. It all comes back to the surface to be dealt with. Not loads of fun.

  Knowing you for 9 years now, I have no doubt that a lot of people would have been driven nuts early on by what you went through. It is something that you have kept your kindness, honesty and sense of humor intact.

  Keep on keepin' on! Talk soon. Mrs. Flipper