The title of this thread should be : " ALL elders are taught to punish not to shepherd "
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JW Talk
by Alive! inwas sipping my coffee, browsing here and there, and then focussed on reading here regarding arc, picked up some world news on same subject - and wondered if jw org would publish any information on their news site.. then, i flicked to jw talk - anything in their public news forum?
a newish headline 'australia and jehovah's witnesses' or something like that - i entered link - web page error, not found.
nope.
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Holy sh*t. They actually used the "mentally diseased" propaganda on you. They have decided you are an apostate.
Stupid robots.
Mrs. Flipper
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Good Afternoon All
by Kick50r inin the last 5/6 years, i've read many threads, some made me laugh , others sad such is life , but was a very pleasant experience.
so i though it was time to introduce myself a bit.. im portuguese although living in the u.k. atm.
im from a (now) jw family and i have 2 sisters.
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KICK50R- Welcome to the board ! One of the best first posts and threads I've read in awhile ! Very well expressed.
I was born in the Witnesses also and my elder dad said the same thing to me that your JW parents said to you, " As long as you are living under my roof- you'll do as I say. " My dad in a nutshell. I was independent thinking as you are so my dad's lingo went over like a lead balloon with me.
Your statement, " I saw what they can do to an informed decision. NOTHING. ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. " Exactly, I totally agree. Our freedom of mind and awareness that the JW's are a mind control cult - is OUR salvation away from fear and guilt indoctrination from the WT Society. No need for fear anymore. The big bad dream isn't true, no destruction at a fantasy " Armageddon " - so we can go live our life !
I too appreciate Simon's board here to help us fight off these " cancers " in our life seeking to take away our freedom of mind. To your statement, " To others in the same situation I was, hang in there, don't despair, let reason be your weapon, time is on our side. " So VERY true.
You are a brave and courageous young man for pursuing your life in a free way and hopefully some in my JW family and some in your JW family will come to their senses some day and re-gain freedom of mind. A big welcome to you friend, take care, Peace out, Mr. Flipper
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35 Years Ago Today - John Lennon - Peace Advocate was Murdered
by flipper inin this age of violence with the san bernardino and france massacres sometimes it's good to reflect on the wise words of the peace advocates among us who proposed a better solution in bringing a more civil society to our universe.
john lennon, martin luther king jr. - people who stood up for equal rights and world peace and denounced violence and war - no matter how that violence occurs.
please feel free to comment on stories of john lennon on this thread and feel free to post any you tubes of his music that you may have enjoyed through the years.
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Here is another song of John Lennon's that I really like :
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35 Years Ago Today - John Lennon - Peace Advocate was Murdered
by flipper inin this age of violence with the san bernardino and france massacres sometimes it's good to reflect on the wise words of the peace advocates among us who proposed a better solution in bringing a more civil society to our universe.
john lennon, martin luther king jr. - people who stood up for equal rights and world peace and denounced violence and war - no matter how that violence occurs.
please feel free to comment on stories of john lennon on this thread and feel free to post any you tubes of his music that you may have enjoyed through the years.
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LOVEUNIHATEXAMS- You know, I really don't know WHO or WHAT the song " I Want You ( She's So Heavy ) was directed to or at or for ? I'm in the dark like you are. One hell of a song which has always been one of my favorites on Abbey Road though. Thanks for posting the song ! I appreciate it ! Peace out, Mr. Flipper -
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35 Years Ago Today - John Lennon - Peace Advocate was Murdered
by flipper inin this age of violence with the san bernardino and france massacres sometimes it's good to reflect on the wise words of the peace advocates among us who proposed a better solution in bringing a more civil society to our universe.
john lennon, martin luther king jr. - people who stood up for equal rights and world peace and denounced violence and war - no matter how that violence occurs.
please feel free to comment on stories of john lennon on this thread and feel free to post any you tubes of his music that you may have enjoyed through the years.
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LITTLEROCKGUY- I appreciate what you are saying. If I came off as too angry to you- I apologize as well. It's just that being in the JW's until age 44 over 12 years ago- I've had enough of self righteousness type attitudes that the WT Society promoted of the WT seeming better than everyone else. So your initial post kind of brought " self righteousness " flashbacks to me. I realize that you are not truly that way. You've been on the board here for years and I know that you are a good guy. I appreciate that Lennon had lots of warts , but my point is that " don't we all " ? I don't look at anybody as a " God " - because in reality I don't believe in " God " or the concept of " God's " at all. And yeah, Jealous Guy was a cool song indeed. Take care, Peace out, Mr. Flipper -
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35 Years Ago Today - John Lennon - Peace Advocate was Murdered
by flipper inin this age of violence with the san bernardino and france massacres sometimes it's good to reflect on the wise words of the peace advocates among us who proposed a better solution in bringing a more civil society to our universe.
john lennon, martin luther king jr. - people who stood up for equal rights and world peace and denounced violence and war - no matter how that violence occurs.
please feel free to comment on stories of john lennon on this thread and feel free to post any you tubes of his music that you may have enjoyed through the years.
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LOVEUNIHATEXAMS- Wow ! I've never seen that you tube of John playing with Clapton and Keith Richards ! Oh my god. Awesome ! Thanks for posting it.
ORPHAN CROW- I think you have the right idea, I'm going to listen to this Lennon, Clapton, and Keith Richards you tube later as well and have a couple stout Sierra Nevada Torpedo beers man ! Does make a person wanna boogie ! Peace out, Mr. Flipper
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35 Years Ago Today - John Lennon - Peace Advocate was Murdered
by flipper inin this age of violence with the san bernardino and france massacres sometimes it's good to reflect on the wise words of the peace advocates among us who proposed a better solution in bringing a more civil society to our universe.
john lennon, martin luther king jr. - people who stood up for equal rights and world peace and denounced violence and war - no matter how that violence occurs.
please feel free to comment on stories of john lennon on this thread and feel free to post any you tubes of his music that you may have enjoyed through the years.
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flipper
Great. They took the video off of the you tube I was trying to post. Damn. Let me try again . This song is pretty cool :
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35 Years Ago Today - John Lennon - Peace Advocate was Murdered
by flipper inin this age of violence with the san bernardino and france massacres sometimes it's good to reflect on the wise words of the peace advocates among us who proposed a better solution in bringing a more civil society to our universe.
john lennon, martin luther king jr. - people who stood up for equal rights and world peace and denounced violence and war - no matter how that violence occurs.
please feel free to comment on stories of john lennon on this thread and feel free to post any you tubes of his music that you may have enjoyed through the years.
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flipper
Here is another of Lennon's songs I really liked :
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35 Years Ago Today - John Lennon - Peace Advocate was Murdered
by flipper inin this age of violence with the san bernardino and france massacres sometimes it's good to reflect on the wise words of the peace advocates among us who proposed a better solution in bringing a more civil society to our universe.
john lennon, martin luther king jr. - people who stood up for equal rights and world peace and denounced violence and war - no matter how that violence occurs.
please feel free to comment on stories of john lennon on this thread and feel free to post any you tubes of his music that you may have enjoyed through the years.
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TALESIN- Hey thanks for posting the you tubes of Mother, God, and The Ballad of John and Yoko. All stellar songs. Especially I like God out of those 3, very honest lyrics. Good point you make about John sharing his pain through his music. I think many musicians are like that. A lot of the songs I write as a singer/guitarist have definite elements of pain I've experienced personally in life. It's what I call " musical therapy " . LOL. And yes- John Lennon really COULD sing the blues. Some of his songs were really bluesy. Even as a Beatle thinking of " Yer Blues " on the White Album and " I Want You ( She's So Heavy ) " on the Abbey Road album stand up as really great examples of his blues capabilities vocally and musically .
LOVEUNIHATEXAMS- Indeed the raw emotion in the song " Mother " was really gut wrenching. The last couple days while travelling on the road in my business I've been listening to all of John's solo music . It reignites my deep appreciation of just how talented a songwriter he truly was.
WATSON- Exactly. John had definitely a social conscience for what is happening in the bigger picture in our world advocating peace and love. He had trouble in his personal life- but hell, who hasn't as an adult ? And the rumors from some posters here of him " beating " his women ? Bullshit. I've read many books on Lennon and biographies thick as the Bible and I don't buy the beating of women, He cheated sexually yes- and he got into fights with men- but beating women- I don't think so. Thanks for the you tube of beautiful Boy the lovely tribute to his son Sean. It shows that he grew up as he got older and became a better father in his 2nd marriage. Take THAT you Lennon haters.
CLARITY- Imagine was a really classic song indeed. Hope you are doing well too ! Have a great Christmas !
HAPPY DAD- I've often wondered the same thing - how many great songs not only John Lennon would have wrote if he lived but also other deceased musicians like Stevie Ray Vaughan, Jim Morrison, Jimi Hendrix, Otis Redding ,and Janis Joplin. People who were cut down in their early years- way too young. All the music we missed out on with their early deaths. I wonder about that all the time.
SMIDDY- Exactly, Lennon wasn't perfect, none of us are, but we are all capable of great things.
CODED LOGIC- Lennon truly did contribute lots to humanity for sure. Thanks for your thoughts