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WT Society SEC Records : Hedge Funds, Cayman Islands, Financial Losses - Links
by flipper inso my wife and i were curious so i researched some financial links and found records indicating that the wt society has been operating at a loss since the year 2012. as you read the links it shows a loss of 10 million $$$ in 2012, about 16 million $$$ in 2013, and a whopping loss of 56 million $$$ in 2014 - where the expenditures exceeded the revenues for each of those years in the amount i've mentioned.
also there is a link on this same website with the sec records indicating that the wt society and it's representatives funneled 40 million $$$$ into hedge funds in the cayman islands as early as 2007. if you look online on other sites you can see evidence that indicates the wt society attended hedge fund conferences to look into more shadiness in 2011 and isn't it curious that by 2012 the wt society started showing losses.
anyway here is the link : https://www.watchtowerlies.com/the_watchtower_revenue.html .. feel free to check this link out and other links on that link indicating the cayman island connection.
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flipper
As has been mentioned by some here as well- the worldwide child abuse lawsuits that are happening against the WT Society - I'm not just talking Australia, U.S. and England- but worldwide I'm sure is causing some angst among the financial keepers of the power at the top of the WT Society. And that is on top of all the other stupid financial moves they've made. Something to consider -
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We Had My Mom's Memorial Talk Today
by minimus inmost everyone was very nice.
i did get a couple of we miss you soooo much and an elder that said he might drop by someday to say hello when he gets a chance....i'm already prepared for him if he should show up.. over all, it got finished and i'm going to bed..
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flipper
My wife and I send our condolences on the loss of your mom Minimus. You had a great relationship with your mom. She brought a lot to your life. Hang in there buddy, Sincerely, Mr. & Mrs. Flipper -
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WT Society SEC Records : Hedge Funds, Cayman Islands, Financial Losses - Links
by flipper inso my wife and i were curious so i researched some financial links and found records indicating that the wt society has been operating at a loss since the year 2012. as you read the links it shows a loss of 10 million $$$ in 2012, about 16 million $$$ in 2013, and a whopping loss of 56 million $$$ in 2014 - where the expenditures exceeded the revenues for each of those years in the amount i've mentioned.
also there is a link on this same website with the sec records indicating that the wt society and it's representatives funneled 40 million $$$$ into hedge funds in the cayman islands as early as 2007. if you look online on other sites you can see evidence that indicates the wt society attended hedge fund conferences to look into more shadiness in 2011 and isn't it curious that by 2012 the wt society started showing losses.
anyway here is the link : https://www.watchtowerlies.com/the_watchtower_revenue.html .. feel free to check this link out and other links on that link indicating the cayman island connection.
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flipper
Finally got my computer back after two weeks. What a freaking hassle. Something with the hard drive I believe. Anyway been in communication with some folks about this situation with the WT Society financial shortfall and it looks like it's legit. I'm not at liberty to say anything more right now but it's definitely looking like they have their financial tits in the wringer. Thanks for all of your comments.
With the stopping of worldwide WT construction, the laying off of thousands of workers, and the cutbacks and downsizing of the printed materials - something is happening behind the scenes that the WT Society is not coming clean about to rank & file JW's . As you realize it's not just that they " want to emphasize the preaching work." Nice try there WT leaders but we know bullshit when we smell it. Any comments welcome. Good to be back to you folks online again ! Take care, Peace out, Mr. Flipper
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Mass disassociation pact...
by freemindfade inany takers?
we can pick a date and pull the plug?
lol .
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flipper
Hey - let's keep this going!
Maybe this thread is getting too long and people don't have the patience to read it all?
So that this doesn't fade away and be forgotten, perhaps if everyone who wants to take part writes their letter now, and put it aside until an agreed upon mailing date. The letters can be pretty simple because after the borg gets the first dozen or so they will know all the reasons for the defection.
Handwritten letters would be good.
After a while a thread could be started where you can post your letter - Mr.Quik's "Great Awakening" would be a great title.
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WT Society SEC Records : Hedge Funds, Cayman Islands, Financial Losses - Links
by flipper inso my wife and i were curious so i researched some financial links and found records indicating that the wt society has been operating at a loss since the year 2012. as you read the links it shows a loss of 10 million $$$ in 2012, about 16 million $$$ in 2013, and a whopping loss of 56 million $$$ in 2014 - where the expenditures exceeded the revenues for each of those years in the amount i've mentioned.
also there is a link on this same website with the sec records indicating that the wt society and it's representatives funneled 40 million $$$$ into hedge funds in the cayman islands as early as 2007. if you look online on other sites you can see evidence that indicates the wt society attended hedge fund conferences to look into more shadiness in 2011 and isn't it curious that by 2012 the wt society started showing losses.
anyway here is the link : https://www.watchtowerlies.com/the_watchtower_revenue.html .. feel free to check this link out and other links on that link indicating the cayman island connection.
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flipper
O.K. So my wife and I were curious so I researched some financial links and found records indicating that the WT Society has been operating at a loss since the year 2012. As you read the links it shows a loss of 10 million $$$ in 2012, about 16 million $$$ in 2013, and a whopping loss of 56 million $$$ in 2014 - where the expenditures exceeded the revenues for each of those years in the amount I've mentioned.
Also there is a link on this same website with the SEC records indicating that the WT Society and it's representatives funneled 40 million $$$$ into hedge funds in the Cayman Islands as early as 2007. If you look online on other sites you can see evidence that indicates the WT Society attended Hedge fund conferences to look into more shadiness in 2011 and isn't it curious that by 2012 the WT Society started showing losses. So perhaps we may be onto something here. Anyway here is the link : https://www.watchtowerlies.com/the_watchtower_revenue.html .
Feel free to check this link out and other links on that link indicating the Cayman Island connection. Or any other connection. Who knows ? Some of this shit may be contributing to WT Society's financial situation. Bad investments that either went south or are currently in the process of going south. As always I look forward to any other information you folks may provide. Or comments regarding this
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My Mom Is Dying
by minimus ini just wanted to say that my dear 89 year old mom is terminally ill and will soon pass.
she is on morphine and hanging on.
she has been a devout witness for about 60 years and a wonderful mother.
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flipper
MINIMUS- I'm sorry to hear of this latest turn of events. Please know that we are with you in spirit my friend. Sending our love, Mr. & Mrs. Flipper -
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Has The Shit Finally Hit The Fan For The Governing Body Liars?
by Brokeback Watchtower ini say you betcha!.
the gb has been hiding their shit for a long time but finally it has hit the fan and it is all over them..
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flipper
BROKEBACK- Yes indeed, I agree with you. WT leaders are standing in deep poo-poo.
WE need to spread the $hit all over the place and let rank & file JW's know that they have $hit all over them as well - they just don't realize it and can't smell it. I intend to chat with JW cart people again in my area very soon
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The new changes is a clear indication that we are one step closer to the end...
by RobertT18 inthat was today's topic over a group chat of my cong's young jbots.
apparently the rumors are circulating everywhere i go, even people from the spanish congs are talking about it.
what's really sad is that the majority of people are already seeing this as "clear" signs of the end coming.
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flipper
You know what ? An interesting thing I might try doing is this : Go down to the park where the JW cart people stand in my little town and talk again with them posing as a non-JW who has JW relatives still in and tell them that my JW relatives told me that WT is stopping all construction worldwide and laying off thousands of workers . Then I might ask the Witnesses, " What could be causing the WT Society to have these financial difficulties where they are having to lay off people and stop all their construction projects ? " And see what the JW's answer. Then after they answer I might lead in with the WT child abuse news printouts again which disclose 13.5 million $$$$ here, and millions there being paid out and implant THAT thought into the Witnesses heads about the REAL reasons WT Society may be laying off people and stopping construction. So I'm thinking I may do that soon. What do some of you think ? Peace out, mr. Flipper -
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Has anyone thought of the spin that the "society" will put on bethel layoffs?
by Lied2NoMore infirst, how about a joke?.
what do you call someone who just turned apostate?.
im thinking sometime in the future the society will put a spin on what is happening similar to what has been done in the past.. they will say apostasy once again reared its ugly head in the organization and layoffs was the only way to "cleanse" the organization.. once disgruntled ones begin to use their voice, they will be forced to strike back with some spin to make all those who have the guts to complain look like they were the problem.. good theory huh?.
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flipper
Indeed it's already happening - this making of excuses by WT leaders for the layoffs and stopping of most all construction worldwide for the worldwide preaching work. And as Konceptual and others stated JW's don't even question these decisions. They " don't worry about details " in the words of Konceptual because the WT leaders have drilled it into JW's heads that " even though it may not make sense from a human standpoint we need to obey " - that mentality has been downloaded into the hard drive wiring into Witnesses brains where they trust TOO much the GB's information and instructions. If they were instructed to jump off of a cliff right now- they'd do that too thinking it was the greatest instruction on earth. Peace out, Mr. Flipper -
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Mass disassociation pact...
by freemindfade inany takers?
we can pick a date and pull the plug?
lol .
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flipper
For 9 years, since I found out about the WT, (never was one) I have made sure everyone I know is informed. Very few people knew how corrupt the religion is. A lot of non religious people think along the lines "religious people are honest, harmless, well behaved, etc." They are not too interested and will change the subject unless you cut to the chase.
The things that caused people to perk up and listen are:
Shunning and the breakup of families, and that many jws are actually "captive" because of it.
Pedophiles can go door to door. That leads into the cover ups, and once again SHUNNING experienced by victims who seek help.
The whole takeover of kingdom hall deeds/money grab blows people away.
OK- I've noticed that jw literature and speech giving is very wordy, repetitive and drawn out. Flipper has worked at it over the years to be more concise, economical with words. The general public is pressed for time, overworked and tired, and long wordy stuff can be sleep inducing. I think the watchtower and other cults do it because it's kind of hypnotic.
So anything going to the media should be edited for this.
Mrs. Flipper