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  "Deep Down , He Knows That It is The Truth"

  by BluesBrother in

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  this phrase i heard again at the weekend when a diehard dub was discussing his non believing, but much loved son.

  "it is just that..... [insert any excuse here].

  it is something that they all say about us, yet nothing could be further from the truth.

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  BLUES BROTHER- I think it's like the old expression " misery loves company " - some of our JW family or friends might secretly have doubts themselves they keep inside without telling anybody- so outwardly they have to TALK like they really do believe it by claiming that those of us who left " REALLY " believe it - so they can convince themselves that THEY believe it as well. A " cognizant dissonance " kind of thing- if you get my drift. Kind of how I see this. Good thread, Peace out, Mr. Flipper

  Added to note: That way they can continue to live in denial thinking that we still believe in it- thus not disturbing the alignment in their JW universe.
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  On the Relevancy of The Institutionalization of Sin

  by Perry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  child murder, sodomy & corrupting the human genome are not new sins, they are old ones.

  what is new is their institutionalization.

  but even that isn't totally new.

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  " Love of neighbor causes me to speak my mind at times , as it should for everyone. "

  I disagree, didn't the Bible claim there's a " time to speak , and a time to refrain from speaking " ? I guess you missed THAT scripture in the Bible- or perhaps it's not in your version
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  Geoffrey Jackson compares waiting for Armageddon to waiting for Brazil to score a goal against Argentina!

  by GodZoo in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  wtf!https://vid.me/8tuy

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  Hilarious. I would go one step further comparing " waiting for Armageddon " to when in the hell will the Chicago Cubs ever win a World Series in baseball again ? Just ain't gonna happen
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  Looking Back In Retrospect To 1975...

  by titch in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  greetings, folks: so, it's been 40 years since 1975. and, if you were actively involved with the witnesses back then, the mindset of many was, that by early autumn of 1975, it would mark the anniversary of 6000 years of human existence.

  and, the hope was then, that it would mark the start of the 1000-year of christ, from the heavenly realm.

  but, looking back now, 40 years ago, in june of 1975, only 3 more months remained until early autumn.

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  TITCH- Good thread. I was 16 years old at the time and I can't remember anything at all happening indicating any real " end ". All I was concerned about at age 16 was meeting girls and trying to masturbate without my elder dad or my mom getting suspicious after doing the wash ! Trying to listen to my Led Zeppelin music on my headphones without my elder dad snarling at me, " What are you listening too !!?? "

  And here we ALL are still ! 40 years later ! And some of us will still be here 40 years later in 2055 as well. Ain't no " end " gonna happen. We need to live our life in the here and now
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  Ran into some JW's.......but this time I did the teaching ;) x

  by snare&racket in

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  2. friends

  so i went out today with my broken leg and got accosted by an old lady, with some magazines.. it was my first ever encounter with a jw in ten years, and i had said 'i know you are jw's, i'm not interested thank you.

  " twice.....then she started talking about my broken leg and how wonderful we are made and how amazing the healing process is.... and that's when it all started...."i used to be a bethelite pioneer, now i'm an atheist doctor...".

  she was with me a good 30 mins, her elder husband left very annoyed but she stayed, and she was dying to hear everything i spurted out, despite aggressively defending every point, from military engines to paedophilia.

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  SNARE & RACKET- I'm proud of you man, you did a fantastic job ! Very well done ! Indeed you gave that older JW lady something to think about. I have found in talking to JW's that the women are MUCH more open to being reasoned with than their elder husbands. I had a similar experience a few months ago talking to JW cart people. The elder was so pissed off that he cussed at me , used the word " shit " and threw my child abuse news printouts away.

  You did a good deed my friend. Access to information is important- and you provided it for her, good job. Her husband can go sit on his thumb and rotate, don't worry about him, he's a dolt. I hope your leg gets better my friend, take care and hope you heal soon. Thanks for sharing this, very encouraging ! Peace out, Mr. Flipper
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  Anthony Morris III life story

  by campaign of hate in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  am3rd life story is in may 15th 2015 study wt.. after reading, he sounds very mental unstable.

  i know you guys will be saying "yeah, obviously he is"...but we don't have any concrete evidence saying he has a mental condition.. has anyone ever dug a little deeper, perhaps try to find some people who would have known him from the army?

  i mean, he probably doesn't know that many people, he was only serving for a year for christs sake.

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  Anthony Morris is a big ass egotist to the hilt to be making statements that his children make him and his wife look good. To many JW men in authority positions- it's all about appearance. In fact- to most members who are JW's - it's all about appearance. What your ranking is, how your " standing " in the congregation is. How are you " advancing " ? Not " advancing " in the fruitages of the spirit or " Christian " qualities- but how are you " advancing " or moving up in the organization . Are you a pioneer yet ? Work on it, it's not enough. Are you an elder ? Are you a ministerial servant ? Everyone is judged based on how much they are putting out for the WT organization- not how humble, meek, or kind they are. That's why bastards like Tony Morris excel in that environment
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  JW's and Violence

  by TD in

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  2. friends

  my wife and i have recently gotten hooked on the history channel's series, vikings.

  (my wife is full blooded norwegian....).

  to be honest, the show is quite graphic in spots, but certainly no more so than a history book i own of the same time period.. anyhow, we made the mistake of mentioning the show if front of jw's last night and they were all thoroughly shocked that we watch it.. i tried pointing out that big chunks of the ot are not materially different and that even the confrontation between david and goliath would get an 'r' rating if it were visually portrayed in any detail at all.

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  If they were to make a movie about the modern day WT Society and the organization it would include the murder of men, women, and children for not taking life saving blood transfusions on the orders of WT leaders, the toleration and hiding of felony child abuse on the orders of WT leaders, Malawi citizens being massacred for not signing a political party card on the orders of WT leaders, yet Mexico JW men being allowed to serve in the military service without WT leaders batting an eye on their orders, JW families being instructed to shun any family members or friends who disagree with the WT organization and called " mentally diseased " - all on the WT leaders orders.

  Like Scenic Viewer hitting the nail on the head said, " I believe their shock comes from having a superior attitude. Witnesses will find fault with anything, even when they are guilty of the same things themselves. " Exactly. No truer words have ever been spoken
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  Nicest thing a JW has ever done?

  by aintenoughwiskey in

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  here is a change of pace, what was the nicest thing a jw has ever done for you or you have seen done?

  it wasn't all bad all the time!

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  " Nicest thing a JW has ever done " ?

  Become a non-JW. Peace out, Mr. Flipper
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  What are you up to this summer?

  by Xanthippe in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i really enjoy hearing about other people's lives.

  feeling a little lonely this evening so please tell me if you have plans for the summer months.

  i may go to some outdoor theatre with my daughter who's home from uni; with a picnic and a bottle of wine.

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  XANTHIPPE- Sorry to hear that you felt lonely the other night. I think many of us go through those feelings sometimes. I wish you lived out closer to California and could come to the July 10th to 12th apostafest ! On The Way Out is right- it will be a blast and lots of fun catching up with old friends on the board and newer friends we haven't even met yet ! Lots of great food, BBQing, drinking, swimming, playing music, hiking- just a really chill environment with laid back non-judgmental relaxed people. Wish you could come. I know you'll be with us in spirit.

  Later this summer or in the fall I hope to go on a hiking trip with my son searching for Bigfoot or Sasquatch in the remote Sierra mountains. We'll see how our schedules mesh. Take care, Peace out, Mr. Flipper
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  Songs celebrating leaving the faith? Not being a puppet, mind controlled, living life, etc etc

  by aley63 in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  i am looking for some songs that are in ref to celebrating leaving, seeing the light, realizing what you were told wasnt right, being happy w your life, etc etc.

  all those emotions about being controlled and repressed, being told what you can feel or think or how to live, blindly following the "brotherhood ".

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  Sweet is the Freedom by Flipper

  It really wasn't that long ago

  I always felt I had nowhere to go

  But now I see I have the need

  To not have to beg, borrow or plead

  Because the freedom is here, the freedom is now

  The freedom is here, it's here all around

  The freedom is you, the freedom is me

  And together we fight, we fight to be free

  ( guitar solo )

  Now I know freedom's nice sweet taste

  And together we see no need for haste,

  The road to freedom is found within

  And we use it fully till life's long end

  Because the freedom is here, the freedom is now

  The freedom is here, it's here all around

  The freedom is you, the freedom is me

  And together we fight, we fight to be free

  So now my life is much at peace

  I don't have to fight for my release,

  My freedom is here to calm my heart

  It always gives each day a start

  Because the freedom is here, the freedom is now

  The freedom is here, it's here all around,

  The freedom is you, the freedom is me

  And together we fight, we fight to be free

  ( Guitar solo and ending vocals humming )