Posts by flipper

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Satan is more dangerous then pedophile - Assembly Part

by thedepressedsoul in

i am sitting at the recent assembly, bored out of my mind (have you ever heard anyone call these things fun?

) and the next speaker walks out on stage.

he starts off with an illustration.

flipper

Outlaw tells it like it is.

There is something bizarre and alarming about the Watchtower's attitude toward pedophilia. Good illustrations are in the guy's speech and Shadows posts.

A good friend was in particularly insane congregation and trying to warn parents and elders about convicted pedophiles in their hall. The elders refused to even look at copies of the police and prison records (one of these guys was described as an incurable sexual psychopath), and buddied around with these creeps.

Some of those elders constantly bullied and badmouthed my friend. There's so much to that story, it's amazing this person came out with sanity intact.

One single mom made it a point to hand her kid to the pedophile she was warned about in front of my friend. (After running straight to the elders to rat out the evil whistleblower).

This is so frustrating - you just can't get across to people like that. Any threat to their superstitious belief systems gets them angry and defensive. If they want to be that way, fine, but it's so sad for the little kids growing up with it.

I can just picture the jws in the audience nodding their heads to this guy's insane speech. Holy sht.

Mrs.Flip

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Satan is more dangerous then pedophile - Assembly Part

by thedepressedsoul in

i am sitting at the recent assembly, bored out of my mind (have you ever heard anyone call these things fun?

) and the next speaker walks out on stage.

he starts off with an illustration.

flipper

SHADOW- Whatever. Pedophiles are still, have been, and forever WILL be a greater threat than a pretend " Satan " - no matter what your fantasy fueled mind thinks. Have a good day deluded freak

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Satan is more dangerous then pedophile - Assembly Part

by thedepressedsoul in

i am sitting at the recent assembly, bored out of my mind (have you ever heard anyone call these things fun?

) and the next speaker walks out on stage.

he starts off with an illustration.

flipper

SHADOW- Your statement, " you see what you want to see even when it isn't there. " Truer words have never been spoken. I guess you know yourself better than we do

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Were you or someone you know sexually molested by a Jehovah's Witness ?

by flipper in

due to the fact there are about 27,000 members of this religion that are known pedophiles, and the information about it is kept in a secret database file, i wonder how many lurking jw's as well as others are aware of the severity of this problem?

remember, it's 27,000 pedophiles that they know about.

what about the thousands that don't get caught?

flipper

ZEB- I'm terribly sorry to hear that your children were molested. Like you stated - these child molesters don't quit. They have a long track record of abusing many times multiple numbers of children who have been criminally assaulted. I've heard that even one pedophile can molest over 100 children or more through the years. That 's what makes them so dangerous and why this danger NEEDS to be emphasized. I'm sure it was terrifying for you to discover all the names of other victims this perpetrator had abused as well as your own children. Made your blood run cold. People need to become proactive and inform the public of how much this is happening so other potential victims can be protected. I'm sorry for your children's pain and your pain my friend. Take care, Peace out, Mr. Flipper

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The elders came to talk about my facebook comment

by cookiemaster in

so, not long ago i've told you guys how one of my only two jw friends saw my comment against the borg and called me about it.

well, the little fraker also called the elders to tell on me.

i know i've been a huge idiot for posting a comment about jw's on facebook, but nonetheless i did it and what's happened, happened.. two idiot elders came all the way from the nearest congo, 30 miles away to talk to me about it.

flipper

COOKIEMASTER- So the elders only drove 30 miles to come interrogate you ? Back in 2007 the elders I knew after I exited the cult in 2003- drove 80 miles - from over an hour and a half away to come interrogate me one month before my marriage about committing alleged " circumstancial fornication " with my fiancé. And I had not attended a meeting in 4 years !

Listen people- Cookiemaster has it right. " Big brother " , " communist regime ", thought police ", " gestapo ", or just plain " Nazi's " are very accurate descriptions of how the WT Society trains these elders to go after former members. It's best to learn a lesson from this- many of us do NOT post on Facebook for this very reason. Possibly being outed to JW family that we may still need to keep in touch with. One reason I avoid Facebook. Hang in there Cookiemaster- at least your parents are seeing your viewpoint. Take care, Peace out, Mr. Flipper

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"Normal family affections and dealings" continue - If only?!?

by LHS123 in

i am new to this forum - it is only a couple of weeks since i have allowed myself to acknowledge and research my doubts.

i am trying to be fair by reading both sides of the story and considering jw official explanation of confusing matters.

one of the issues i have been looking at is shunning - and i was shocked to see the misleading information about shunning on the jw.org website: .

flipper

I mean- it's incredible. I've been essentially shunned for years by some of my JW siblings and my JW adult daughters - in spite of not being disfellowshipped ! I know scores of other ex-JW's who are in the same boat. So yes indeed- WT society speaks out of both opposite sides of their mouth depending on if they are speaking to the rank & file JW's - or if they are speaking to potential non-JW converts. The story changes dramatically. Really ridiculous

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Satan is more dangerous then pedophile - Assembly Part

by thedepressedsoul in

i am sitting at the recent assembly, bored out of my mind (have you ever heard anyone call these things fun?

) and the next speaker walks out on stage.

he starts off with an illustration.

flipper

SHADOW- I am truly sorry that your child was attacked for years by a pedophile, that is VERY sad and horrific - that's why it's somewhat ironic - don't you think that your view of MINIMIZING the damage that this elders talk does towards the crime of child abuse towards victims is quite a confusing view on YOUR part ? A person would think that you would be outraged as well by all the WT Society injustices being done towards victims of child abuse.

Nobody is turning this thread into a joke. Child abuse is NO joking matter. It's a crime with REAL victims and REAL criminals committing these crimes and real criminal organizations aiding and abetting over 23,000 child molesters within the WT organization. If you don't GET that point- you are beyond reasoning with. " Satan " is a fictitious piece of crap that MANY religions have created to keep people in fear of a fantasy. Child molesters are REAL dangers to millions of JW kids and other youngsters around the world. I would assume that you realize this fact since this horrific crime happened to your own child.

Look - you can use a clever scene from a Bruce Willis movie to say that " you see dumb people " ( it was dead people by the way ) - but I've never seen you at all in person but by your stubborn refusal to admit truths about the criminality of child abuse as compared to a pretend " Satan " - you show just how long you choose to remain in your ignorance. And you do an extreme disservice to your own flesh and blood that suffered these crimes at the hands of a child molester. Think about it

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Why are people burning their city to the ground in Baltimore? How doe Looting and Mob Violence Help?

by PokerPlayerPhil in

it's hard enough for businesses to enter these areas the government once had to offer up tax breaks to service them.

in watts, california it took decades for city residents to get a grocery store after the thugs burned their businesses to the ground.

you can see the insanity taking place, when you allow mobs and fools to burn building down nothing good comes from it.

flipper

VIVIANE- Great point

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Why are people burning their city to the ground in Baltimore? How doe Looting and Mob Violence Help?

by PokerPlayerPhil in

it's hard enough for businesses to enter these areas the government once had to offer up tax breaks to service them.

in watts, california it took decades for city residents to get a grocery store after the thugs burned their businesses to the ground.

you can see the insanity taking place, when you allow mobs and fools to burn building down nothing good comes from it.

flipper

" Prejudice and ignorance it's all just the same, by keeping this view we have ourselves to blame. I don't really know why people have to hate, they just don't realize they need to set it straight. "

" How many tears must we cry, before we even try ? How many young men will die, till we lift our voice to the sky ? "

" Black or yellow or white or red, people put down each other instead , they don't really care if they're right or wrong , they just make sure the hate lasts long. "

" How many tears must we cry , before we even try ? How long will hatred fly, before we tell it goodbye ? "

" What we really need is to not be blind, there has to be a total change of mind, to look at each other as equal and free, and recognize the dignity in humanity. "

" There's not much more I can put in this song, not until we decide to all get along, if we all join hands we can make a change, with peace and understanding we can all arrange. "

" How many tears must we cry , before we even try ? Let's have a change of heart, then we can make a new start. "

" Let's have a change of heart, then we can make a new start, then we can make a new start, then we can make a new start. "

Lyrics to my song I wrote several years ago " Prejudice and Ignorance " .

Prejudice and Ignorance is not going to stop unless the leaders in power work in harmony with the grass roots public. And vice versa . But there is too much of a gap between the oppressors and the oppressed in our society- too much of a gap between the " haves " and the " have-nots ". Until true justice prevails in the criminal justice system , courts, police, and government - these uprisings are always going to keep happening. And really , unless the people in power change and stop abusing and killing innocent blacks or people of any other race - can you blame these people uprising for being angry ? I sure don't

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Things I trust more than the Jehovah's Witnesses Governing Body

by OnTheWayOut in

i stole this, from of all places, rick fearon.

i don't know who he stole it from.

please think of more.. things i trust more than the jehovah's witnesses governing body+ the media+ mexican tap water+ cappuccino from bill cosby+ a bigfoot sighting+ a politician who says "trust me"+ an al qaeda who wants flying lessons, but skips landing and take-offs+ a hillary clinton war story+ bill clinton wanting to give a speech at an all-female school+ gas station sushi+ a brian williams or bill o'rielly news report+ email from a nigerian prince.

flipper

Rattlesnakes. Piranhas. Sharks. Multi Level Marketing people....kind of similar actually but way less destructive.

Mrs. Flip