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Anthropomorphism in the Scriptures
by iconoclastic insince all our conceptualisations are limited by our human condition, our images of god are often anthropomorphic; hence bible writers presented god as:.
1) working six days and taking rest on the seventh day [which is not required for one who is omnipotent].
2) grand-father whose eyes are in every place, keeping watch on the evil and the good (proverbs 15:3) [which is redundant as law of cause and consequence are already in place and does a wonderful job].
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Quality Thinking - Warning: Long Post Ahead
by Viviane inrecently, several threads have had some debate about logic, evidence, critical thinking and skepticism.
i wanted to write a post discussing those things, hopefully to clarify what those things are, why they are important and how to use those tools.
first, logic, at its core, is simply a method for how to reason validly, how to draw conclusions based on a premise.
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Neither writers nor translators believe Scriptures are inspired of God
by iconoclastic inin most of the scriptures, the supreme father figure is originally presented as upholder of the law that every action has equal and opposite reaction.
later writers would come presenting a son of god who would exhibit a soft approach towards consequences of action.
one of the best examples is john 7:53 to 8:11 which is now accepted as one of the most famous forgeries in the bible..
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What was so new about The Theory of Evolution?
by iconoclastic inthe east had already been teaching the 10 stages of human evolution (that should happen in the life-span of a human being) using an allegorical story of 10 incarnations of god:.
1) fish (water borne life, a fish-like start in the womb of mother) amoebae or primeval evolution..
2) turtle (life moves into land, crawling child once outside the womb) amphibians..
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Language shows how theology evolves
by iconoclastic inin some ancient languages, the word for god (which is actually the 3rd person in most of the modern languages) is called primary person; second person is called middle person, and the word for i (which is actually first person in most of the modern languages) is called perfect person.
this wording conveys the understanding of ancient people:.
when god is viewed as primary person, or put above everything else, and.
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The first 4000 years Jehovah communicates with humans,the next 2000 years is given to Jesus and he communicates with no one.
by smiddy inthe bible has ample evidence of god communicating with humans during the first 4 centuries.. since jesus time ,god has not communicated with humans at all .,in the same way as he did in the first 4 centuries .. in fact jesus has not communicated with humans in the same way as jehovah did for the first 4000 years., during his 2000 years to this date , .
does not the bible say , god does not change , he is the same today as he was yesterday and will be tomorrow ?.
so why was god communicating with humans on a regular basis , one way or another for 4000 years and then , neither jehovah or his son jesus christ ever directly contacted humans ?.
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JW attitude of “we only are right, and we will shun all those who disagree with me” is based on the Bible, but
by iconoclastic injw attitude of we only are right, and we will shun all those who disagree with me is based on the bible.
interestingly, for almost everything in the bible, one can see an earlier parallel existing outside the bible, in the pagan world.
(http://ggreenberg.tripod.com/ancientne/101rev.html) (http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_jcpa1.htm) .
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Why don’t we have a better story?
by iconoclastic in1. some say we are all gods, and god is omnipresent..
2. some say: god created his children who later challenged his sovereignty, who in turn asked his eldest son: go down to the world, do not resist the wicked, but be murdered by them, the value of which will be used to atone the sins of the world..
3. universe arose out of a big bang.
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This is a topic I am going to kill with my opening post.Why haven`t the Major religions of Christendom exposed J.W.`s as the true Apostates
by smiddy ini am initially thinking of the major religious institutions of christianity , catholic ,many branches , church of england , and the major protestant religions , too numerous to mention here.. after all their is 40,000 plus christian religions in the world today ?so obviously j.w.`s are not the only false religion .. so my real question is really , to do with the mainstream christian religions , why are`nt they more aggressive in their condemnation of the jehovah witness religion for their obvious failings ,flip backs ,contradictions ,prophecy`s that never eventuated , end of the world predictions ,re-inventing their past history , even distancing themselves from their past history , and their founding members , such as c.t.russell and j.f.rutherford whose policies they now reject... they need to get on board and bleed it for all it`s worth .. smiddy .
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The change in the Memorial
by Doug Mason inup until 1954, the watch tower society said that the symbolism of the memorial loaf included the little flock and that the wine represented their sharing in jesus death.
(one example: the loaf pictures not jesus fleshly body but his body members, the christian congregation.
the watchtower, march 15, 1954, page 174).