How terrible for you! Small treasures that remind you of someone you loved dearly have so much more than monetary value. Have you confronted her about it? Are you absolutely positive it was her? Could someone else have taken the opportunity to steal from you while knowing there were visitors in your house that could be blamed? Just questions you might consider, dear.
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My grandmother's ring, STOLEN
by Irish Rose ina little over a year ago my sister and her husband had stayed with my husband and i. i won't go into the details, but while here they had stolen several items from us.
some of the things we discovered, very soon after they had disappeared, and others it has takens us a little longer to discover.. when i was 17 my grandmother gave me a ring.
it was a black onix with two diamonds, set in a silver band.
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Sweet elderly sister reproved...
by changeling infor having too much contact with her df'd son!.
she's a loyal, long time witness in her seventies, with a "non-believing" husband.
she harms nobody with her bevavior.
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If I were this young man, if my state allowed it, I would file an Alienation of Affection lawsuit against that BOE. Whether I won or not, would not be the issue.
IT'S TIME THEY STARTED GETTING SUED RIGHT AND LEFT FOR THIS KIND OF SH*T!!!
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If Your Spouse Told The Elders On U, Is That a Marital or Religious Problem
by minimus inif a faithful devout jw saw her husband on a board like this or reading "apostate" literature, if she was so disturbed by her husband's actions and the husband justified himself, would you think that if she told the elders because she was truly concerned that her mate was going to leave "the truth" and ultimately not make it into the "new system", --------that this was simply a marital issue-----not a religious one?.
your opinions please..
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journey-on
That's a tough one. I see so many different sides to your question.....so many ways to look at this! I'm eager to see the responses.
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Sweet elderly sister reproved...
by changeling infor having too much contact with her df'd son!.
she's a loyal, long time witness in her seventies, with a "non-believing" husband.
she harms nobody with her bevavior.
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My mother spoke often with both my df'd brothers and was NEVER reproved nor counselled. The oldest one who lived three hours away stayed overnight lots of times and remained very close to my mother till her death a few short years ago. She was a strong witness till the day she died and was in that same congregational group for 50 years, but she was very outspoken to anybody (including elders) that Jehovah DID NOT expect a mother who gave birth and raised her children with love to disown them. Without saying it outright, they knew she meant for them to keep their counsel to themselves, she had already spoken to Jehovah about it and He had already told her in her heart what to do.
More women should be like my Mom was.
Edited to add: She didn't start off that brave. It took her awhile to determine that it was wrong to shun them. When she prayed about it and came to the conclusion she did, she stood up for what was right in her heart. I was always proud of her for that.
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suicidal friend
by DaCheech ini have not talked to a good witness friend of mine in 3 weeks.. yesterday, i called and asked if he had not called me due to being mad for some reason (seems like i have to do the calling all the time).. he told me that he had been severely derpressed, and had comtemplated suicide.. he's seeing some kind of natural care doctor.
i congradulated him on seeking help, but advised him to also talk to mental health doctor.. he is totally against that!.
he told me that he's only gonna do the following 2 things: 1) take some happy vitamins, 2) try to do more service hours!.
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I have no advice for you to give him, but I just wanted to express myself:
MY GOD!! WHAT THIS CULT OF A RELIGION DOES TO PEOPLE!! They stress out over the pressure to attend five meetings per week, put in a minimum of 10 hrs. in field service per month, strive to pioneer, elder duties or ministerial duties, conducting family bible study, conducting bible studies with interested persons, making return visits, shepherding calls if you're an elder, preparing for talks, studying for lessons, and on and on and on and on~!! All of this on top of your secular job or business supporting your family and your duties maintaining a home and automobile. Where is the time for quality family relaxation and casual recreation?! These are the things that make for strong emotional and mental health.
No wonder mental illness is rampant in that organization!! Not only is their leadership full of nut cases, the whole R&F are going nuts!!
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shunning and its effect on the emotional fabric of families
by hurricane ini am very concerned as to what the long term effect of df or ds can be on young children who may be deprived of the love and care of close family members, such as grandparents who may still be loyal jws but whose own married children are dfd.
the modern epidemic of youth rebellion is often traced back to dysfunctionality within the emotional fabric of societies.
the organisation may very well be contributing to this breakdown.. how many members of the gb are married with children and grandchildren who can fully empathise with what their policy is doing, has anybody written an article on this subject..
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journey-on
First of all, WELCOME to our JWD forum. It's great to have you heRE and your first post is a most interesting one, IMO.
I recently posted a portion of some research I've been doing on Tort Law as it relates to disfellowshipping. I, too, am of the opinion that there is cause to believe the WTB&TS can and should be held liable for their part in corroding families by their practice of shunning, especially when disfellowshipping and the shunning that follows happens to young persons who were raised in it from early childhood.
My take on it, is that although in the past, the courts have chosen to back away from issues where religion is concerned, our society is beginning to realize the consequences of these practices by cults posing as religions like the JWs, Scientology, and others. These types of non-mainstream religions by such heinous acts as shunning corrode the very fabric of our society when they psychologically and emotionally injure young children. IT'S NOW TIME, IMO, FOR THE COURTS TO WAKE UP TO WHAT IS ACTUALLY GOING ON REGARDING THESE MIND-CONTROLLING TECHNIQUES PERPETRATED ON CHILDREN IN THE NAME OF RELIGION. When friends and family shun someone for simply discarding a religious belief, more is at play here than meets the eye.
IT'S TIME THE WATCHTOWER BIBLE AND TRACT SOCIETY ALONG WITH ELDERS AND ANYONE ELSE CALLED A JEHOVAH'S WITNESS TO BEGIN GETTING SUED RIGHT AND LEFT FOR ALL THE PAIN AND SUFFERING THEY HAVE AFFLICTED ON THOSE WHO WERE RAISED IN THIS CULT THEN LEFT.
Here's a portion of my post:
3] The third theory rules that shunning or excommunication can be -- by itself -- tortious conduct subject to liability.
This theory assumes that the state interest in preventing shunning and excommunication is strong enough to allow state interference in all of these decisions. The first case to adopt this posture, Bear v. Reformed Mennonite Church 106 advanced this argument in its simplest form:
In our opinion, the complaint, in Counts I and II, raises issues that the 'shunning' practice of appellee church 107 and the conduct of the individuals may be an excessive interference within areas of 'paramount state concern,' i.e. the maintenance ofmarriage and family relationship, alienation of affection, and the tortious interference with a business relationship, which the courts of this Commonwealth may have authority to regulate, even in light of the 'Establishment' and 'Free Exercise' clauses of the First Amendment.
Other courts have also agreed with this basic approach, and ruled that shunning and excommunication are actionable conduct even when it is unaccompanied by any other activity.
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This would be so sad if its true
by IP_SEC inyou can check this out on snopes.comunder "the story of two houses".
house #1a 20 room mansion ( not including 8 bathrooms ) heated by.
natural gas.
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he pays carbon offsets
You mean if you are wasteful of our environment, it's okay as long as you pay extra $$ for doing it? WTF? That's not what being environmentally conscious is all about!
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Tort Law and Disfellowshipping
by journey-on inlike most of you, i inwardly seethe at the practice of disfellowshipping and the shunning that follows.
i wish i could find a way to hold the wtb&ts legally responsible for what results from this heinous practice.
the more i read about the psychological and emotional pain that is perpetrated on those who are shunned by friends and family after having been raised a jehovah's witness, the more i am convinced that there has to be a way to sue for these damages.
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I've thought also about a minimun age requirement for baptism.
Jesus was 30 yrs. old, for crying out loud, before he got baptized. At 12 he was hobknobbing with the rabbis and teachers, so his knowledge was adequate, but he lacked something developmentally necessary to make higher life-altering decisions.
I can't recall a single scripture that talks about children getting baptized. I think it's abhorrent to allow it, then when they turn 17 or 18 and commit some act of immorality get disfellowshipped and consequently shunned. Their whole life is turned upside down and it can send them into a down spin they may never recover from emotionally and psychologically.
I wish there was some way to hold the WTB&TS legally responsible for what this does. If the religion was mainstream and didn't impose the practice of df'ing and shunning, the young age of baptism would not be that big of a deal. But, in the JW org. it can have deadlyconsequences. Look how many have committed suicide because of it. Look how many have been alienated from the affection of their family and friends.
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Mr. Flipper's Son Hears and Sees Bigfoot- I'm Serious, Not Joking
by flipper ini know i'm setting myself up here, but here it goes.
first of all if you want to crack funnies about this or jokes, that's perfectly cool, it's alright, i don't mind.
however this is a true story from what happened in may and my motive for writing about this is not just humor, but i want to see if anybody else has experienced what my son went through while being in the mountains or anywhere.
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journey-on
Your son had an experience that was real to him. You know your son. You have faith in what he's telling you, so much so that you're going to pack up and hike back into those remote mountains to search for it. Whether you and he are able to visibly experience this again won't change the fact that he had the experience and it will be with him for the rest of his life. He will ALWAYS BELIEVE IN BIGFOOT from now on based on that personal experience.
BTW, for the doubters and scoffers, be sure to take a video recorder and get lots of footage. But, you have to be prepared to accept the possibility that you may never experience this again.
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I don't have a clue about what I'm doing
by erynw inso i downloaded the interlinear scripture analyzer and i've been playing around with it.
i compared psalms 102:26 to psalms 146:4. both of these use the word perish.
they are "will perish" and "do perish" respectively.. they both use the same strong's reference number, h6.
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journey-on
I've already decode the entire book of Hallucinations and am thinking of starting to work on Constipations, but I'm stuck!
LMAO!