Posts by journey-on

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What's the one thing holding you back?

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Life Goes too Fast

by Undecided in

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i'm getting depressed lately realizing my life is fast comming to an end.

so many of my acquaintances in this life are dying and it won't be long before i will be gone.

there is nothing we can do to stop it.

Sometimes I wonder if this isn't ~~God's~~ Nature's way of turning us inward during the latter part of our earthly existence in order to evaluate ourselves and our life's journey. It slows us down physically so we can take stock of this life's contribution to our soul's journey. Did we love well? Did we appreciate and value our life? Did we find joy along the way? Did we pass on anything worth knowing to someone? However small and insignificant it may seem to us, perhaps it was of immense value to someone else. Did we learn something of value? Little lessons, big lessons lived, taught, learned...time to think and contemplate.

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Jehovah's Witnesses Today & Yesterday

by minimus in

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jws today are not like the ones i knew when i was growing up.

we used to look down upon those that didn't make all of the meetings and regularly go out in service every weekend!

if someone was not in the theocratic ministry school----what was wrong with them???

journey-on

I think a lot of them plan on just coasting into the New World (New System?..New Order?..what do they call it these days?)

I think they think if they just stay plugged in to it even loosely, if it really is the truth, then just being a JW is enough.

Didn't Rosalee talk about this one time? She said something like the young ones today don't kiss ass like we did. I don't remember her exact words, but I remember wondering about whether she's right or not since she WAS a JW posting on an apostate website.

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I received a package from my mother today

by ex-nj-jw in

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my dub mother sent me a package today, inside was a nwt bible, a picture of me around age 5 at an assembly - i looked miserable and my dad was holding a battery operated fan in front of me, and a letter, here is the letter.

i ask that you remember that i was 18 when i left and i'm now 42, that there is a total of 8 children in my family and there are only 2 that are still jw's, oh and that my mother is a complete nutcase!

dear nj:.

journey-on

Reading all these replies of encouragement, sympathY, outrage, and hilarity, I started thinking just how wonderful this board really is for people that receive these emails and letters from their JW family members. If ex-nj-jw didn't have us on JWD to turn to, she would be sitting with that letter in her hand dealing with all kinds of heartache and emotional turmoil. JWD ROCKS...DON'T YOU ALL AGREE!

In the 80's, I received such a letter from my sister. I cried so hard and got so sick over it, that I went to bed and couldn't get motivated for a couple of days. I had to deal with it without support of any kind and work through the pain and heartache of abandonment alone. It doesn't have to be that way now. You've heard of Kitchen Psychology where two friends sit at the kitchen table and talk about their problems and help each other work them out. How about a new one....Forum Psychology.

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new e-mail from my mom

by Heather in

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my moms e-mails get shorter and shorter.

this latest says only this.. 2 peter chapter 2. lovely.........i'm a dog returning to my vomit.

journey-on

My response would be: "Mom, if you knew what I know about the WTS, this scripture would definitely apply. I'd be returning to the vomit if I came back. All I can tell, you, Mom, is you better develop eyes to see and ears to hear and heed this scripture: Rev. 18:4."

(That's the one that says, "get out of her my people, if you do not want to share with her in her sins.")

PLANT THE SEED, DEAR.

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ETERNITY BEFORE CREATION.....THE NON-EXISTENCE.....of GOD!

by Terry in

before god began creating.......he wasn't a creator.. before god began creating.....there was nothing......and therefore nothing to know.. before god began creating...there was nothing and nothing to know....and therefore nothing to love.. before god began creating...he was alone with nothing to distinguish him from nothingness except--what?

his mind?

filled with what, actually?.

journey-on

And still, there are people basing their whole existence on each and every one of these religions. They really believe in them. So that means you really should take all of them seriously in your endeavor to find the right one.

Maybe, we have to take God OUT of religion (or religion out of God). People that can't believe in God tend to cling to the religious way of looking at Him. Take the concept of an Intelligent Creative Force out of man's attempt to explain Him (religion) and you will get closer to the answers.

EDITED TO ADD: This is part of our spiritual evolution. We'll get there. (If we don't blow ourselves up first.)

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ETERNITY BEFORE CREATION.....THE NON-EXISTENCE.....of GOD!

by Terry in

before god began creating.......he wasn't a creator.. before god began creating.....there was nothing......and therefore nothing to know.. before god began creating...there was nothing and nothing to know....and therefore nothing to love.. before god began creating...he was alone with nothing to distinguish him from nothingness except--what?

his mind?

filled with what, actually?.

journey-on

Oh...and Time cannot exist without Motion.

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I received a package from my mother today

by ex-nj-jw in

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my dub mother sent me a package today, inside was a nwt bible, a picture of me around age 5 at an assembly - i looked miserable and my dad was holding a battery operated fan in front of me, and a letter, here is the letter.

i ask that you remember that i was 18 when i left and i'm now 42, that there is a total of 8 children in my family and there are only 2 that are still jw's, oh and that my mother is a complete nutcase!

dear nj:.

journey-on

That is like the saddest thing I can imagine a mother saying to her own flesh and blood!

I would return the letter with a note attached: "having no natural affection, merciless." Look it up mom. It's in Romans.

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I JUST FOUND OUT.......!!!!!!

by Es in

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that im having another baby!!!!!.

just done the test and the line came up straight away....... we were planning on falling pregnant in about three months and happend to fall pregnant straight away...im still in shock but had to share it with you all my family.

luv ya.

journey-on

Congratulations!! The greatest gift there is has been given you.

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ETERNITY BEFORE CREATION.....THE NON-EXISTENCE.....of GOD!

by Terry in

before god began creating.......he wasn't a creator.. before god began creating.....there was nothing......and therefore nothing to know.. before god began creating...there was nothing and nothing to know....and therefore nothing to love.. before god began creating...he was alone with nothing to distinguish him from nothingness except--what?

his mind?

filled with what, actually?.

journey-on

What an interesting thread. I’ve read every one of the replies to Terry’s post, and can’t help but be amazed at all of you. Everyone that posted IMO has valid points and your intelligence just blows me away. No wonder the WTB&TS couldn’t contain you!!

I think Terry thinks most people who believe in God are looking at Him as some all-powerful "man in the sky with supernatural abilities" that takes notice of each and every good deed and transgression individuals perform. I, for one, do not look at God (for lack of a better word) this way. I look at Him as an Intelligent Force unseen but made manifest incrementally through the creation of matter.

If you keep this in mind: As above, so below. The microcosm and macrocosm are one. Each one is made in the image of God….we can learn everything eventually. The journey has just begun for mankind.

We are evolving toward a higher "knowledge" and this is proven by those who are diligently searching for meaning outside the small gods of religion, but have not forsaken the knowing that man was created in the image of God.

The problem is that, like Terry, many have thrown the baby out with the bath water.

Getting back to the microcosm/macrocosm thinking

: Before you create that beautiful piece of jewelry, the creative energies flow…they move in your mind and if you are truly gifted, they move in your soul and spirit (the depths of your being.) You "create" the piece in THAT realm before it is made manifest in the realm of matter. Once you create the ideal in your "mind", you plan it out, figure its dimensions, draw it, etc. Then when all of that is fully set, you actualize it. Voila! A beautiful piece of jewelry has been created….not by waving a magic wand, but through creative ability, desire, will, effort, then manifestation.

What amazes me with people like Terry is that they really cannot comprehend a realm without matter. Existence has to be touched, tasted, smelled, etc. or it can’t exist. We are but a speck of dust upon another speck of dust in the vast dynamic swirl of cosmic energy we call the Universe. To think that our puny little science has the answers is the ultimate arrogance! Science, however, is also evolving and together science and spirituality CAN come together and over time get closer to the answers.