I would say that if the holy spirit directs them tomake you an elder, then you have solid evidence that the holy spirit is not amongst this people and I'd go for it, and use every bit of information you get to help captives get the hell out!
Shell69
this is the third elder that tells me that the body of elders will recommend me as an elder in the next visit of the co.. what do you think i should do?
some facts:.
i am still 'in' because of my family.i am ms.i am doing 10+ fake hours (well, some months it is fake), so they see my "spiritual" progress.-ootb.
I would say that if the holy spirit directs them tomake you an elder, then you have solid evidence that the holy spirit is not amongst this people and I'd go for it, and use every bit of information you get to help captives get the hell out!
Shell69
i got the idea for this thread unashamedly from snowbird: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/148005/1.ashx.
the women here are terrific.
obviously i'm going to miss someone out but it's not deliberate:.
Yes we are
Shell69
JWD mutuall apprectiation Society
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guys,.
i changed my job four weeks ago.. i work for the same company but have just taken up a position at another site which, i hoped would allow promotion and prgression within the business.. but i am hating it!
i feel like i walked into chaos!, thats the only way i can describe it!
Vivamus:
not sure I want to get to know them!
Shell69. Soz Guys. you are all ace. Just venting my frustration! ((((((((XXX))))))))))
guys,.
i changed my job four weeks ago.. i work for the same company but have just taken up a position at another site which, i hoped would allow promotion and prgression within the business.. but i am hating it!
i feel like i walked into chaos!, thats the only way i can describe it!
Thanks Dave/ Outlaw,
I would say that only the bare minimum is actually getting done by the staff and supervisors. I have requested a supervisor meeting next week where I intend to set our SMART objectives for each of them.
Its almost as if I'm not standing over them they have absolutley no initiative or drive, and I have to point out every little thing tht needs to be done.
It could well be that they are 'trying' me since I'm the newby.
Dave .... 6 months??? arghhhh, My hair coming out in clumps already !!!
HEHE SHELL69
guys,.
i changed my job four weeks ago.. i work for the same company but have just taken up a position at another site which, i hoped would allow promotion and prgression within the business.. but i am hating it!
i feel like i walked into chaos!, thats the only way i can describe it!
Guys,
I changed my job four weeks ago.. I work for the same company but have just taken up a position at another site which, I hoped would allow promotion and prgression within the business.
But I am hating it! I feel like I walked into chaos!, thats the only way I can describe it! The staff are horendous, I can count on one hand the only staff I would have employed myself, and thats out of thirty of them!
The Supervisors are scruffy, with only one out of the six showing any kind of passion or interest in his job.
Thing is I new to this site, and don't want to bail in treading on the toews of the other Managers, but I am really not happy, and I don't know if its the job that I'm really hating, or I'm unhappy at being new in the site, and having to tread carefully.
Please give me your opinion's, Do I ride the storm, or look for something else before this dreadful place drags me down with it?
Shell69
especially if they are the militant, bitter type...are they wanting you to undergo the hardships they've been through?.
are they secretly jealous of those who have faded and have kept their family together?.
does misery want company?.
Bravo Gringa. Well said
Shell69
usually, i enjoyed the public talk, if the speaker was good but i thought the theocratic ministry was boring!!!.
the service meeting was just a sales meeting.
the book studies were simply ridiculous.
Best part of the meetings was the large V&T when I got home!
shell69
especially if they are the militant, bitter type...are they wanting you to undergo the hardships they've been through?.
are they secretly jealous of those who have faded and have kept their family together?.
does misery want company?.
Sweet stuff/ Changeling;
No we're not braver. Not at all. We did what was right for us.
I had to be brave, because it was a massive desission, and I KNEW what the consequences of that desission would be. But that does'nt make be braver than the next person, because my circumstances were entirley unique to me.
Shell69
usually, i enjoyed the public talk, if the speaker was good but i thought the theocratic ministry was boring!!!.
the service meeting was just a sales meeting.
the book studies were simply ridiculous.
Book study
especially when we just got to the end of the crappy revalation book, only to be told we had to do it all over again!
Boring! Didnt make any sense even second time through!
Shell69
especially if they are the militant, bitter type...are they wanting you to undergo the hardships they've been through?.
are they secretly jealous of those who have faded and have kept their family together?.
does misery want company?.
Changeling (((())))
I think that we have to accept that everyones circumstances are different on this board. You state that although you are prepared to lose assosiates of many years, you are not prepared to lose your relationship with you children and grand children.
I would never try to influence you in your choise, ... unless you came here asking for my opinion.
I FULLY UNDERSTAND why you have made the choice you have made to remain a fader in order to maintain your relationships with your family.
However' my relationship with my Mother and siblings was all but destroyed by my 'fade', these righteous people then attempted to sabotage the relationship that I had with my OWN CHILDREN by trying to influence them against me and the choices I was making,
In the end the decision was to save both my children's lives and the precious relationship that I have with them as their Mother and withdraw from the religion altogether, along with my youngsters, so we could all have a measure of freedom.
I apologise for being a little quick off the mark earlier, and I appreciated the essence of what you were saying, but I hope you can see that not all situations are the same, and I said at the outset, I would only express my opinion if I were asked for it.
Kindest regards. Shell69