Nobody cares. Unless the GB says it's bad, then all the dubs will wipe their social media accounts accordingly.
People are not allowed, and in many cases don't want, to have their own views.
neverendingjourney
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National Sibling's Day?
by thedepressedsoul ini'm not sure how many of you are aware but today is national siblings day.
what i find odd is that social media, fb, instagram etc... i see tons and tons of witnesses posting pictures of their siblings with the caption or hash tag, "national siblings day".
how is that any difference then fathers day, mothers day and so on?
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Did you know that murdered singer (1995), Selena, was raised a JW? April 16th is her birthday. Read more...
by AndersonsInfo inhttp://watchtowerdocuments.org/murdered-singer-selena-was-raised-a-jw/.
murdered singer, selena, was raised a jw?.
did you know that selena quintanilla was raised in a devout jehovahs witness family?
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neverendingjourney
I was a Mexican-American teenager in Texas when Tejano music was at its peak. Selena was the unquestionable star of the genre. For people in my demographic, her death had the impact I imagine John Lennon's death had on the wider population. It was a real punch in the gut.
It came out early on in her career that her family were JWs. They grew up in Corpus Christ, which was a few hours away from my hometown. There were people in my hall who knew people in Selena's hometown who confirmed the rumors. The family was said to have been "inactive" although they were often seen at assemblies.
After Selena died, her father gave many interviews and he mentioned their JW beliefs in several of them. Her brother formed his own band (which is still in existence). His arms are completely covered in tattoos, so I very much doubt he considers himself a Witness.
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Something a CO once said.
by cappytan in"there are only three reasons you should miss a meeting.
fever, fracture or funeral.
everything else is a sorry excuse.
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neverendingjourney
This point was explicitly made in an elder school a few years back, on how to "reason" with "brothers" who are making "wrong choices".
That's interesting. I don't think that's been the attitude in my area in 20 years or so. Then again, I've been absent the past 10 years and they might have reverted to a hard line stance, but that's not the sense I get from talking with my family about congregation goings-on.
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Something a CO once said.
by cappytan in"there are only three reasons you should miss a meeting.
fever, fracture or funeral.
everything else is a sorry excuse.
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neverendingjourney
Looking back on it, it's clear I became an active Witness during a transitional period in their history.
Even though my parents converted when I was an infant, I didn't want to have anything to do with the religion until the mid 90s when I was in high school. I came under the wing of what I would now consider to be an "old school elder." He seemed to sincerely believe we had no more than a few years left before Armageddon. The '95 generation flip-flop seems to have changed that, but that's a story for another time.
This elder shared the CO's meeting attendance views. In fact, he trained me to believe you should quit a job if it interferes in any way with meeting attendance. This wasn't an uncommon view.
A few years later, ministerial servants were being appointed who did shift work. They had X number of meetings per month they would miss, but would try to make them up at neighboring halls as much as they could. That would have been unheard of 10 years prior. One of these guys ended up going to Bethel and it's as if God himself blessed the arrangement. There were people in our congregation who'd given up good jobs over meeting attendance and all of a sudden it was no big deal. Must have been a bitter pill for them to swallow.
There are other, better examples of significant changes in JW culture during that time, but I don't want to write a book or derail this thread.
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Why only 7 or 8 members on the Governing Body?
by Gilgamesh innow and then someone hears a rumor that the gb might go with 12 members instead of the 8 (or now 7) they currently have.
the value of 12 is understandable, which might even drive the rumors every time they plan to add another 4 or 5 new persons to the gb helpers list.
of course, a rumor that steals their thunder may also promote a delay, even if true.. i'm sure this quote from the watchtower was previously commented upon as a good explanation for the watch tower's best reason to leave the number at 7 or 8:.
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neverendingjourney
Obviously, I don't have any specific insight into the minds of these men.
However, you can see how any governing structure that gives a veto right to a 1/3 minority could easily devolve into gridlock.
Let's say there's a contentious issue. For sake of illustration, let's say it's the blood ban. Let's further suppose that 4 men are currently in favor of repealing it but 3 are against it. The 3 men in the minority might not want to approve any additional GB members for fear that their voting power would get diluted. If they were to add two additional members and it turns out they are in favor of repeal, they'd lose their ability to block the reversal as the vote would now be 6 in favor and 3 against.
Just take a look at the U.S. Congress and how dysfunctional it's become since the senate began requiring routine measures to achieve a 60% approval. And that's just one house of one of the three branches of the federal government.
Trying to run a multi-million member, multi-billion dollar religion by committee, much less by one that requires a 2/3 supermajority vote to implement any major change, is completely ludicrous and likely a major factor in this religion's decline.
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Has This Site Ever Hurt You In Your Journey Out Of The JW Religion?
by minimus inthis site has gone through many metamorphosis over the years.
i believe it is a kinder, less edgy place tan it was a few years ago.
i wonder how many people were helped versus turned off by this place.
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neverendingjourney
Still, the best JW discussion site around.
I agree, but it's kind of a double-edge sword.
The site is great given the volume of discussion, but the biggest "talkers" tend to be the angriest and/or ones who have an axe to grind. The more well-adjusted folks seem to, on average, post less. I imagine the most well-adjusted don't post at all.
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It's time to say goodbye to JWD - I sold it !
by Simon ina week or so ago i posted that the forum was 15 years old (15 years of jehovahs-witness.com) and hinted that there may be some news to announce about the site:.
i also may have some other news to share soon about the future of the site so stay posted.
well, now i can announce it - i sold it !.
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neverendingjourney
Damn, I worked so hard on that, literally for minutes, and no one fell for it at all ?!?
The internet has ruined April Fool's Day.
As part of my morning routine I check online news sites as well as my Twitter feed. Both are full of April Fool's references. No chance anyone will catch me unprepared.
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The Secret is out....but nobody cares
by MrTheocratic ini've been looking on this site for some time but never posted.
i'll give a little about myself, but not too much.
i'm a ex-bethelite ( brooklyn )and currently serving as an elder (10 years) (thinking about stepping down) on the service committee.
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neverendingjourney
Don't underestimate the power of indoctrination.
Nearly four years elapsed between the time I began to have serious doubts and when I finally reached a point of no return. The mere possibility that my doubts could turn out to be unfounded was paralyzing at times. I feared making a decision that would foreclose the possibility of my ever going back.
A number of my still-in contemporaries (now mostly in their 30s) have been leading double lives since adolescence yet they still go through the charade. One of them is even an elder now. They never learned to question authority and will probably never leave.
It being "the truth" is a self-evident thing for them. It's true because it's the truth. That's just the way it is. Failed promises, changed doctrine...none of that will change the fact that it's the truth and why would they ever leave the truth?
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15 Years of Jehovahs-Witness.com
by Simon inyes, today is the forum's 15th birthday!.
i never thought for one moment that it would survive this long or have so many people post so many great subjects over the years.. it is still humbling when i get pm's or emails from people expressing how the site has helped them and of course thanks goes to all the posters who have shared their experiences and make helpful and supportive comments to others who are in the sometimes difficult process of learning the real truth about 'the truth'.. the site has gone through several different incarnations over the last 15 years running on different platforms, different databases and different hosts but we've been able to keep all the old topics.
the current site is still being developed and i'm hoping to push another major upgrade soon.. i also may have some other news to share soon about the future of the site so stay posted.. until then, here's the the next 15 years!
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neverendingjourney
I found this site in January of '07 and there's been no looking back.
My awakening began in the summer of '03, but my fade was extremely long and gradual. I had stopped going to meetings entirely by the summer of '05, but I hadn't foreclosed the possibility of going back one day. Once I found this place and read thread after thread there was no going back.
Congratulations and thank you for continuing to keep this place in operation. It's been a valuable tool to countless others.
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Theocratic Warfare - Is it in writing?
by cappytan ini'm just wondering if the theocratic warfare doctrine is anywhere in writing or if it's a word-of-mouth kind of thing where it's mentioned at elder's school, but not put in writing.. anyone?.
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neverendingjourney
"While malicious lying is definitely condemned in the Bible, this does not mean that a person is under obligation to divulge truthful information to people who are not entitled to it." - Insight on the Scriptures, Volume 2, pages 244, 245.