Posts by Emiliano

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Okay .... my turn

by RR in

all this talk about the gb, and it being all white, well herd is a black man, so you afro-americans happy?

huh?

what i want to know is when is there going to be a puerto rican on the governing body, what, they afraid bethel will be serving rice and beans all day?

Emiliano

Francios

I wouldnt be surprized to see some try to start a movement like that, now that the shoe is starting to be on the other foot.
Is the shoe fitting a little uncomfortable?

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What about those who commit suicide???

by nogs in

the wts say that those who commit suicide commit a grave act toward god and will be everlastingly cut-off.

where does that idea come from and where is the compassion of ones when the person just could not go on living anymore????.

i felt like ending it alot of times, the jws made me feel ugly, stupid and unworthy individual, i lost all my confidence and never felt that anyone would want to marry me as i was so flawed.

That is great that you left the watchtower.
The best thing you could have done to escape mental, and emotional
abuse. Im sure the watchtower is the cause of many psychologial problems. I see a big problem in dialogueing with other people in this site. I think they have been brain damaged, I say this in true sympathy and not as a put down! But I see a lot of circular reasoning going on. If you have time to read the Spiritual Israel topic you may see what I mean. Anyways, it sounds like you are truly starting to enjoy your life. The great thing about being free, is that you have an infinite choice of people you can choose to be your friends. People who are not toxic to your soul. Positive people will enrich your life even more. Learn from your experince of having been in a cult, and use it to your advantage in preventing any negative group dynamic experineces.

I wish you the best and may God continue blessing your life. Keep the faith in God.

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Okay .... my turn

by RR in

all this talk about the gb, and it being all white, well herd is a black man, so you afro-americans happy?

huh?

what i want to know is when is there going to be a puerto rican on the governing body, what, they afraid bethel will be serving rice and beans all day?

Emiliano

Hi RR

Just wondering, is the Bible Students web page there just for resource information or do you endorse and adhere to their beliefs?

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Okay .... my turn

by RR in

all this talk about the gb, and it being all white, well herd is a black man, so you afro-americans happy?

huh?

what i want to know is when is there going to be a puerto rican on the governing body, what, they afraid bethel will be serving rice and beans all day?

Emiliano

Orale, RR

I think they feel that they wouldnt be able to keep up with all new hymns in a Salsa beat!

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Identity of 'Spiritual Israel'

by Jr in

in order to qualify as spiritual israel there has to be certain fundamental characteristics or basic truths.

these basic truths are revealed in the law covenant given by moses.

and can be traced down from the nation of israel, down through the 1st century congregation, and further down until our day and time.

Emiliano

agent2863

Good point! I thought no one else was having problems with these guy's wierd logic.

Emiliano

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Identity of 'Spiritual Israel'

by Jr in

in order to qualify as spiritual israel there has to be certain fundamental characteristics or basic truths.

these basic truths are revealed in the law covenant given by moses.

and can be traced down from the nation of israel, down through the 1st century congregation, and further down until our day and time.

Emiliano

Ianao,

Why should you care about what people think?
One should care about how God sees us. If one has faith in Jesus Christ we become a new creation. We won't be perfect. Not until God is finished working in us. When we are resurrected. We are all a work in progress some of us progress slow others not so slow. The struggle is between the innerman and the flesh. Romans 7:21-25Paul describes his struggle with this same issue. "I find then the principle that evil is present in me, the one who wishes to do good. For I joyfully concur with the laaw of God in the inner man, but I see in the members of my body, waging war against the law of my mind, and making me a prisoner of the law of sin which is in my members. Wretched man that I am! Who will set me free from this body of death? Thanks be to God through Jesus Christ our Lord! So then , on the one hand I myself wiht my mind am serving the law of God, but on the other, with my flesh the law of sin." The solution and relief comes in Chapter 8:1 There is therefore NO CONDEMNATION who are in Christ Jesus,..... "if you get a chance read the rest of the chapter. I dont really know exactly where you're coming from with your question. Maybe I'm missing a 3rd post. Why would you be considered a worker of iniquity by anyone ? I dont have the full story. I hate the sin but I dont look down on anyone or hate any "sinner" . Jesus died for sinners that we may be saved.

Christians shouldnt feel like they are better than anyone else!
And if someone here is makeing you feel that by what they've said I wouldn't let it bother me. We are all a work in progress.

Emiliano

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Identity of 'Spiritual Israel'

by Jr in

in order to qualify as spiritual israel there has to be certain fundamental characteristics or basic truths.

these basic truths are revealed in the law covenant given by moses.

and can be traced down from the nation of israel, down through the 1st century congregation, and further down until our day and time.

Emiliano

oanai, sorry I accidentaly pressed, reply.

..... a group,"the ones who feel themselves to be in his favor?"

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Identity of 'Spiritual Israel'

by Jr in

in order to qualify as spiritual israel there has to be certain fundamental characteristics or basic truths.

these basic truths are revealed in the law covenant given by moses.

and can be traced down from the nation of israel, down through the 1st century congregation, and further down until our day and time.

Emiliano

oanai,

Can you explain where in the bible it says that you will be destroyed by God for not associating with a group

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Identity of 'Spiritual Israel'

by Jr in

in order to qualify as spiritual israel there has to be certain fundamental characteristics or basic truths.

these basic truths are revealed in the law covenant given by moses.

and can be traced down from the nation of israel, down through the 1st century congregation, and further down until our day and time.

Emiliano

Hi Larc,
Yes we are created in his Image. But created nontheless.

I can see you would be embarrsed by some type of bowing before you.
Heck, I would be too! Its just not something that is done in our culture. Besides, what grandiose position do we hold? And even if did hold some prestigious position I still dont think I would feel comfrotabel having people before me. You see, I'm not the Creator of the Universe.My children are human just like me. I wouldnt want them to bow down either.
But you are not keeping in mind one thing, that in your statement: "I think that is what God expects of us." That you think that God has the same expectations as you.

Larc, what did you get out of Philippians , anyway ?
Did you overlook the phrase " that at the name of Jesus EVERY KNEE SHOULD BOW" . And if you didn't overlook it, why would you be the exception? Because you think God would be embarrased?

Ive showed you where it says in the bible that Every knee should bow. Show me where it says that you should stand erect and salute with respect. Oh, by the way are you in the military? Or are your kids in some military academy? Because if thats not the case I would also be embarrased if my kids "stood up and saluted me with respect."

As sinneres we dont deserve anything!
I would think twice in assuming that God and you have the same expectations. God deserves everything, all our love, worship and praise! I wouldnt worry about sparing God the emabarrasement. He is not like you or I.
God Just doesnt get embarrased!

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Identity of 'Spiritual Israel'

by Jr in

in order to qualify as spiritual israel there has to be certain fundamental characteristics or basic truths.

these basic truths are revealed in the law covenant given by moses.

and can be traced down from the nation of israel, down through the 1st century congregation, and further down until our day and time.

Emiliano

Hi Larc,

I agree with your view on spiritual Israel. "Christian" is the name most widely used to identify one's belief in Christ.

In reference to Bending Your Knee to Jesus Christ.

I agree with you that as believers we are not given a spirit of fear.
It is God's enemies who will grovel in fear! But they will bend their knees to Jesus. Even Satan will one day bend his knee to Jesus.

Wheather we do it out of Love,Respect, Humility, Reverence, Greatfulness as believers and sons of God or we do it out of fear as His enemies . It doesnt make a difference, Everyone will Bow their Knees to Jesus Christ!

Bending your knees to Jesus as a beliver is a demonstration of Humility among other things such as reverence and respect.
As we know the Prime example of this attitude of humility is our Lord Jesus Christ.
Philippians 2:5-11; Have this attitude in yourselves which was also in Christ Jesus, who, although He existed in the form of God, did not
regard equality with God a thing to be grasped, but emptied Himself, taking the form of a bond-servant, and being made in tdhe likeness of men. And being found in appearance as a man, He humbled Himself by becoming obedient th the point of death, EVEN DEATH ON A CROSS. Therefore also God highly exalted Him, and bestowed on Him the name which is above every name,(YHWH) that at the name of Jesus EVERY KNEE SHOULD BOW, of those who are in heaven, and on earth, and under the earth, and that every tounge should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

Can you imagine a dialouge with Jesus?
Hey Jesus, wow man, that was a great thing you did out there on calvary. Hanging, nailed to a cross and all that excruciating pain, I tell ya, it was really something. I am really greatfull for that, you bought me with your death and your blood clensing me from my sins gave me life. And I hear ya, when in Colossians 1:16 says For by Him all things were created, ...all things were created by Him and for Him. And dont get me wrong I fully understand that you didnt only creat me but you humbled yourself in Love for me and gave your life to buy me back so I am yours any way you look at it! I get all of that! Just one problem, in case you didn't notice you are speaking with LARC and you see this "bowing my knee" thing is just not for me. Thats just not the way I demonstrate respect! What I do is stand erect and salute! Thats all your getting from LARC ! You see, bending my knee just makes me look like Im groveling in fear. And Larc just doesnt grovel in fear! Hey, I Love You Man! You know I do you can read my heart, I'll do anything you ask, I'll share the gospel with strangers, I'll read the bible, I'll even die for your namesake, you name it! Your just not getting any knee bending from me!

LARC has spoken!