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  Atheists, here is a 'balls' question ---even for all---

  by prologos in

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  it is very difficult to knock a ball into a hole (like golf), throw it into a receiver's hands (american football) intercept it and knock it over the fence (american cricket).

  or to put a sattelite at the right time at the right speed in the right direction in the right place to have it orbit another body, so :.

  what ingenious natural & process is it, than can get 9+ zillions bodies to get into the right orbit simultaniously or sequentially and have them remain there for billions of years?

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  humbled

  S&R,

  A deer instead of a bull (It ran in front of son's truck) we eat in your honor. And a virtual hug from GramMaeve (((SnarlR))).

  I'm not up to the discussion, but watching from the sidelines...
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  A Better World - Can it be achieved?

  by fulltimestudent in

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  the hope of a better world is what attracted me (and likely many of you other loiterers (grin) on this site) into the mental mindtrap of christian thought.

  i guess its understandable, re-reading the words that the author of the matthew gospel that we know as the sermon on the mount, its easy to think, that if jesus ruled the world, everything would be ok.. i'm still interested in a better world.

  so have many other thinkers (and revolutionaries).

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  humbled

  FTS,

  When living in the home place has nothing left but drudgery then the young do leave in every country. It happens here as someone pointed out above.

  A troubling matter for land use is that the traditional use of land by indigenous people may not be documented and the government or corporations can take it over "legally". This of course happened in the U.S. and it is hardly ever even given a thought.

  The land never can return to the sons and daughters of those who live on the flanks of hills and rivers.

  Money will rule mens lives. Not the earth, the wind, water, and sun.

  And we are able as you have mentioned to lift the burdens off each other's backs with simple inventions--but again as you said: there's no money in it.

  But, in time, money won't give us the earth,water, and air that we sold away.

  We do have to value the ones who have lived close to the earth without title to it--they have some natural entitlement, don't they?
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  In Contrast to KKK's - we have: Christianity Broke My Heart

  by fulltimestudent in

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  a lucid exposition of a man's breaking free:.

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upwh4d3bxji.

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  humbled

  Great, I will make sure my family sees this.

  Truth brought me in and eventually took me out of the WBTS.
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  A Better World - Can it be achieved?

  by fulltimestudent in

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  the hope of a better world is what attracted me (and likely many of you other loiterers (grin) on this site) into the mental mindtrap of christian thought.

  i guess its understandable, re-reading the words that the author of the matthew gospel that we know as the sermon on the mount, its easy to think, that if jesus ruled the world, everything would be ok.. i'm still interested in a better world.

  so have many other thinkers (and revolutionaries).

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  humbled

  Just Visiting--

  Just because the WT baited their "hooks" with valid human concerns should not innoculate us to the need to address those needs now that we are free to do it--- without waiting for Jah's "Big A" to make things right.

  Maeve
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  The Observer

  by compound complex in

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  recent happenings close to home bewilder me by day, terrify me by night.

  i am immersed in the profound waters of doubt and, sometimes, despair, as i struggle swimmingly to a far off shore that itself is encased in black mist.. yet, the shroud of fog does rise.

  i am able to see outward, through the windows to my soul.

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  humbled

  The loss of one's sense of purpose and the significance of life: memories and our meaning to others. What are we now in this world of others?

  The re-shuffling of who we are NOW after the disillusion of our religion and the dissolution of our old self is a difficult event--not a task, really. It seems not a thing I am doing but rather a thing happening to me. As you say, an observer on shore.

  That is what your thought pulled out of me, Coco.

  Take care Coco.

  Maeve
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  Jehovahs Witnesses make a big deal about following first century christianity, so please explain this.

  by smiddy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  where in the christian greek scriptures do disciples of christ record how many hours a month they preached.. " " " " 10 hours for women and children and slack husbands with no ambition.

  " " " " do they record how many back calls / return visits they made in a month.. " " " " have they set down how many bible studys they had in a month.. " " " " do they have pioneers ,special pioneers , aux.pioneers , with goals to reach each month.. " " " " do they have d.o.

  , c.o., zone servants , etc.etc.. " " " " where in the christian greek scriptures is the word " organisation" applied to christianity.

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  This is RIGHT ON THE MARK, Smiddy.

  Yes, Jgnat. Women and reading? Not happening in 1st century. Serving one another and eating together? These are so carefully managed by the Overseers of WT that it's ridiculous.

  Aarrggghh!

  Sir82, Good point! First century? Christianity was all over the place and totally unhomogenized!

  BUT! as wasblind points out: The WT has pictures to prove their version of reality!

  It proves that a picture is worth a thousand words--especially if no one is allowed to research outside The Society's literature/picture books. (like who care to really read it)

  Maeve
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  A Better World - Can it be achieved?

  by fulltimestudent in

  1. social
  2. current

  the hope of a better world is what attracted me (and likely many of you other loiterers (grin) on this site) into the mental mindtrap of christian thought.

  i guess its understandable, re-reading the words that the author of the matthew gospel that we know as the sermon on the mount, its easy to think, that if jesus ruled the world, everything would be ok.. i'm still interested in a better world.

  so have many other thinkers (and revolutionaries).

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  humbled

  Thanks for posting this, fullimestudent.

  Can a better world be achieved if relatively wealthy people do not realize that no human potential should languish for doing laundry (or hours of other tedious chores) while we who use--what?--14 or 22 times the resources?

  Can there be a better world if the wealthy ones in the "Air Line" not see the time, the lives of the poor as being valuable as our own?

  No and no.

  We cannot mine the world's resources, displacing native peoples, exploiting whole nations or groups for the convenience of modern life and think that this can be sustained.

  Yes to the Sermon on the Mount. Yes to anyone who teaches us to be fair and satisfied with more just distribution of the worlds resources.

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  This is connected to that thread on inequality of last week, somehow.
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  More Canadian Vandalism!

  by jgnat in

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  ...and no, it is not justin bieber peeing his initials in the snow.. .

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  humbled

  Good morning! Good fun!

  Maeve
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  Shun Run 2014: Show Courage, Don't Shun

  by rawe in

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  our third annual shun run will be held again at 10am at papago park, tempe, az on saturday, april 12th.

  this is a low-key public event that all who wish to see an end to organizational-induced shunning can join in.

  lecture room on floor 4 at 2:00pm.. as part of this event, i write a letter to sdb:ssy, the otherwise anonymous jw author who informed me about the df'ing announcement in my case.

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  humbled

  this sounds worthwhile. Maybe good for my part of the country.
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  Anyone see 12 Years A Slave?

  by BU2B in

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  has anyone here seen best picture winner 12 years a slave?

  it was tough to watch at times, and made me tear up a couple times.

  it was a very well written well acted film with great cinematography, and was extremely moving.. i think it was a deserving winner..

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  Yes.

  I have spent 11 years and more collecting books and reading other sources that reveal the origins, effects, and afterward of American slavery. Also how the white and Native American slavery of the American colonial period played out. There is a lot of complexity in the business and the brutal personal and social effects of slavery.

  Reading the enduring effects in convict leasing, debt peonage, Jim Crow laws and the faultering weakness of reconstruction in behalf of former slaves as well as the pogroms of black communities into the 1900's,you see how ignorant the public is--including many in black communities--of the DNA of slavery on U.S. society. Black and white.

  I agree with LisaObeesa, all should see this film. If you are not well informed on the complicated befores and afters of black slavery, before speaking one way or the other on race issues in our communities---- see this film.

  Yes, there was a war that officially freed blacks. But the slaveholders and those who felt/feel that blacks are fundamentally inferior and (choke, gag) benefited from forced labor i.e. free food and housing, they didn't have a change of heart just because the South was defeated in 1865. They raised sons and daughters, who raised sons and daughters. They were the landholders, business men and community leaders who shaped policy up to this day. The changes in civil rights since slavery were meager and were on paper but there were black men and women 100 years later who died in the south for trying to live according to those laws.

  Racism has a long half life.

  See this film.