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  UK justice..

  by zeb in

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  tommie robinson has reported often about what he sees as the demise of british society by the imposition of 'sharia' norms.. https://www.infowars.com/update-tommy-robinson-gets-13-months-for-livestreaming-outside-courthouse/?utm_source=nightly+newsletter&utm_campaign=9e3ceb30f6-email_campaign_2018_05_25_03_10&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_e12661a83c-9e3ceb30f6-38680565.

  yesterday he was jailed for 13 months for reporting outside a court in the uk.

  his was a non violent offence.. what no community service?

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  Luhe- If true that he pled guilty he will serve time. I am not a lawyer but it has happened in my state that the case was made that Arkansas could not protect the safety of its prisoners to such an extent that it violated their constitutional rights. ( it was seen as cruel and then usual punishment to be incarcerated in Arkansas in the late 60s through the 70s )The federal government provided oversight for 13 years in this state. Perhaps this approach could help Tommy (and others) who have no security in U.K. prisons.

  I would leave off indignation at his arrest . That looks like a waste of time. Get the records on the prisons records of insufficient staff and Tommy’s past experiences with incarceration. Concentrate on the very provable charge that the state cannot guarantee his safety.

  edit: On my previous post-sorry that first link on U.K. Prisons is a dead number. The second link is good
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  UK justice..

  by zeb in

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  tommie robinson has reported often about what he sees as the demise of british society by the imposition of 'sharia' norms.. https://www.infowars.com/update-tommy-robinson-gets-13-months-for-livestreaming-outside-courthouse/?utm_source=nightly+newsletter&utm_campaign=9e3ceb30f6-email_campaign_2018_05_25_03_10&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_e12661a83c-9e3ceb30f6-38680565.

  yesterday he was jailed for 13 months for reporting outside a court in the uk.

  his was a non violent offence.. what no community service?

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  To your point, Ruby, even if Tommy R were a thug or a brawler —the state is obliged to care and protect him while in custody.

  He plead guilty as charged. He was sentenced to prison. The state must keep him safe. Yet the situation of prisons in the U.K. makes their word untrustworthy. They presently cannot protect other men or their correctional officers. They are understaffed and overcrowded. Tommy poses special concerns. He was attacked during his last incarceration.

  Even though l am of the opinion that he made himself the flashpoint to no good purpose it would serve everyone best if his sentence could be served under house arrest. My opinion.

  0http://www.prisonreformtrust.org.uk/portals/0/documents/
  

  bromley%20briefings/summer%202017%20factfile.pdf
  
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  UK justice..

  by zeb in

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  tommie robinson has reported often about what he sees as the demise of british society by the imposition of 'sharia' norms.. https://www.infowars.com/update-tommy-robinson-gets-13-months-for-livestreaming-outside-courthouse/?utm_source=nightly+newsletter&utm_campaign=9e3ceb30f6-email_campaign_2018_05_25_03_10&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_e12661a83c-9e3ceb30f6-38680565.

  yesterday he was jailed for 13 months for reporting outside a court in the uk.

  his was a non violent offence.. what no community service?

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  http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/7460736.stm

  House arrest a possibility? Article about its use in the U.K. for difficult cases.

  This sure is one.
  
  
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  UK justice..

  by zeb in

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  tommie robinson has reported often about what he sees as the demise of british society by the imposition of 'sharia' norms.. https://www.infowars.com/update-tommy-robinson-gets-13-months-for-livestreaming-outside-courthouse/?utm_source=nightly+newsletter&utm_campaign=9e3ceb30f6-email_campaign_2018_05_25_03_10&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_e12661a83c-9e3ceb30f6-38680565.

  yesterday he was jailed for 13 months for reporting outside a court in the uk.

  his was a non violent offence.. what no community service?

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  https://rightsinfo.org/prevent-miscarriage-justice/

  There is a provision for journalists to interview prisoners to prevent miscarriages of Justice. What the matter addresses may not be relevant to Tommy Robinson. But considering what occurred when huge mass was in prison there may be a legal mind that can see this in his favor
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  Is the Universe a Simulation?

  by Satanus in

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  some german scientists have proposed experiements to test if the universe in which we live is a simulation.

  they think that they have the instruments necesary to be capable doing those tests.. 'this is no trivial pursuit: some of the greatest minds in history, from plato, to descartes, have pondered the possibility.

  though, none were able to offer proof that such an idea is even possible.

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  Phantom threads, Lois. They are like dreams or ghosts, eh? Haunting when folks evaporate .

  So Hellooo, Lois and Brokeback👻
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  A ridiculous thing I found in the old young people’s book

  by Addison0998 in

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  it was in some book for young people that i found going through the watchtower library when i was doing research for old publications, i cannot believe this lunacy, i feel so bad for the teenagers at the time who had to try to take this seriously, but they’re not a high control religion or cult though, anyways here is is : .

  if you sleep in a room alone and you find that you seem to feel special stress in this direction at night, you may be able to arrange matters to share a room with another member of your family.

  also, you may find it helpful to sleep on your side rather than on your back or face down.. 18 another thing that may be helpful is to see to it that your clothing does not unnecessarily cause friction with the sexual organs.

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  Amazing, right? Like a medieval rule book for monks or nuns. I was in that religion. Nuts.

  Blownaway— ha!
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  UK justice..

  by zeb in

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  tommie robinson has reported often about what he sees as the demise of british society by the imposition of 'sharia' norms.. https://www.infowars.com/update-tommy-robinson-gets-13-months-for-livestreaming-outside-courthouse/?utm_source=nightly+newsletter&utm_campaign=9e3ceb30f6-email_campaign_2018_05_25_03_10&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_e12661a83c-9e3ceb30f6-38680565.

  yesterday he was jailed for 13 months for reporting outside a court in the uk.

  his was a non violent offence.. what no community service?

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  Humbled , Iv'e seen the work of Trevor Philips. A very smart and sensible man he uses good data to prove the issues he presents. Isn't he the one that introduced the word Islamophobia and now regrets it?

  Barry— yes he is. He is very strong in why the liberals approach to multiculturalism is a fail.

  His parents were immigrants and he maintains there is no way that assimilation can occur in this present situation. His essay is a long piece to read. I found it astonishing and blew my worktime on reading it through. No regrets though.;

  I called my daughter in NYC to tell her his grasp of the issues of insular populations, some marginalized but others simply walled off are a disaster within a country. What is encouraging is to read an unflinching estimate of the problem and what is at stake—but he has a thorough analysis and then steps to address the particulars. Bless Tommy for stirring things up ( maybe?) but Trevor Philips has thought beyond the rage and frustration.

  https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.express.co.uk/news/uk/771220/Trevor-Phillips-racism-sexism-diversity-political-correctness-gone-mad-channel-4/amp

  This ^^is less than 2 minutes. Gives you a taste of his reasonableness.

  His amazing essay: Race and Faith: the Deafening Silence
  
  
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  UK justice..

  by zeb in

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  tommie robinson has reported often about what he sees as the demise of british society by the imposition of 'sharia' norms.. https://www.infowars.com/update-tommy-robinson-gets-13-months-for-livestreaming-outside-courthouse/?utm_source=nightly+newsletter&utm_campaign=9e3ceb30f6-email_campaign_2018_05_25_03_10&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_e12661a83c-9e3ceb30f6-38680565.

  yesterday he was jailed for 13 months for reporting outside a court in the uk.

  his was a non violent offence.. what no community service?

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  https://youtu.be/5bjks3fmajM

  This is a terrific interview Tommy Robinson had with this fellow Lord Pearson on the problem of dealing with Islamist problems if people are afraid to talk about it. Lord Pearson is not afraid. He is alone.
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  UK justice..

  by zeb in

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  tommie robinson has reported often about what he sees as the demise of british society by the imposition of 'sharia' norms.. https://www.infowars.com/update-tommy-robinson-gets-13-months-for-livestreaming-outside-courthouse/?utm_source=nightly+newsletter&utm_campaign=9e3ceb30f6-email_campaign_2018_05_25_03_10&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_e12661a83c-9e3ceb30f6-38680565.

  yesterday he was jailed for 13 months for reporting outside a court in the uk.

  his was a non violent offence.. what no community service?

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  https://thesecretbarrister.com/2018/05/25/what-has-happened-to-poor-tommy-robinson/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

  ^^^^Reposting phizzy.

  The defense could have made the charge that Tommy’s livestream tainted the trial. Such an outcome is unacceptable for the value of a live stream.

  The damage is done on the time lost to deal with massive immigration. Human displacement is an overwhelming problem. We face it in the US.

  So is it War? Civil war?

  edit: of course war is what you do when you have no alternative. But it is spoken of by at least one fellow over there. But why not give a listen to fellows like Pearson and Philips? Because they have to my thinking, a plan an approach to this terrible problem.

  Those who have cited the failure to assimilate should listen to these guys. Tommy doesn’t have a solution that l have heard. He is vocal and angry but it will not solve the problem.

  We have people aplenty here to stir things up. That Philips put his finger on a good many matters that we in the States should consider.
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  UK justice..

  by zeb in

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  tommie robinson has reported often about what he sees as the demise of british society by the imposition of 'sharia' norms.. https://www.infowars.com/update-tommy-robinson-gets-13-months-for-livestreaming-outside-courthouse/?utm_source=nightly+newsletter&utm_campaign=9e3ceb30f6-email_campaign_2018_05_25_03_10&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_e12661a83c-9e3ceb30f6-38680565.

  yesterday he was jailed for 13 months for reporting outside a court in the uk.

  his was a non violent offence.. what no community service?

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  Barry- Pearson complains of the same problem. The problem of not being able to address the expectations within Islam and the expectations within the law of the land. Pearson is to my thinking not right nor left. The same is true of Trevor Phillips.

  Passwordprotected mentioned Trevor Philips, a fellow who used to be a liberal. The man is not a tool. He is not in either camp. He is for opening people in Britain to the problems that will not go away without vigorous intervention.