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  Recent New Testament translation causing a stir

  by careful in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  sharp-witted and well-educated eastern orthodox philosopher and theologian david bentley hart, now a fellow at notre dame, has produced a nt translation (yale univ press 2017) that is causing a major stir.

  one-man translations are pretty rare any more, but this one is making a real splash, largely because it does not surrender to the group/translation committee mentality.. .

  even though it's been out only a few months, it's already been reviewed several times in well-known publications.

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  humbled

  Careful-ha!

  succubus and incubus —made for each other.

  Pity they can’t make their nightmare together and leave us to what dreams we might have of our own.
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  CO working at Walmart

  by the girl next door in

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  2. experiences

  it just took me by surprise.

  i remember him from a decade or so ago.

  he came up with gems like, “weddings are for women, they are not necessary.” also, “if you want to be truly happy, marry an ugly woman.”.

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  humbled

  Girl next door-They may deserve it but it still makes me sad. I wish they could taste the sheer joy and freedom and growth that comes from escaping the clutches of a coercive mind controlling cult.

  yes, that is the greater pain—Daily smiling-meeting /greeting the “goats”you believe are heading to destruction. Your brain frozen.

  I don’t have a secure financial life by any means. But 10 years out of the depressing drag of JW life I often stop filled with gratitude that I’m out of it. Whatever life brings me I don’t have that ball and chain. If I were a Walmart greeter l would still be free.
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  Recent New Testament translation causing a stir

  by careful in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  sharp-witted and well-educated eastern orthodox philosopher and theologian david bentley hart, now a fellow at notre dame, has produced a nt translation (yale univ press 2017) that is causing a major stir.

  one-man translations are pretty rare any more, but this one is making a real splash, largely because it does not surrender to the group/translation committee mentality.. .

  even though it's been out only a few months, it's already been reviewed several times in well-known publications.

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  humbled

  Stevie2–

  One of the pitfalls is that groups tend to ave a moderating influence on the finished product whereas lone translators are free to play out their idiosyncratic reasonings.

  You may have said that ^^^as a cautionary against this single man translation but I see it as the freedom to speak freely because religious committees can also do harm-/the orthodoxy dumbing down effect.Think:Governing Body.

  Is there a plural for incubus ?
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  Recent New Testament translation causing a stir

  by careful in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  sharp-witted and well-educated eastern orthodox philosopher and theologian david bentley hart, now a fellow at notre dame, has produced a nt translation (yale univ press 2017) that is causing a major stir.

  one-man translations are pretty rare any more, but this one is making a real splash, largely because it does not surrender to the group/translation committee mentality.. .

  even though it's been out only a few months, it's already been reviewed several times in well-known publications.

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  Careful-Thanks for posting this.

  I read David Bentley Hart’s article and it is so beautiful.

  “.....Christians truly cast in the New Testament mold fairly obnoxious: civically reprobate, ideologically unsound, economically destructive, politically irresponsible, socially discreditable, and really just a bit indecent.” -David Bentley Hart

  Why l loved Jesus and pisses me that they neutralized him by making him “the son of god”.
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  What does the WT say in response to the Bible command of human sacrifice?

  by Crazyguy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in the bible at exodus 22:29 and numbers 3:13 its very specific that the first born males belong to god.

  at leviticus 27:28,29 is specifically says all that is given to the lord even the sons can not be ransomed and are to be destroyed.

  this makes it clear that human sacrifice of the first born males was expected.

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  I am sorry Crazyguy for the comments that turned into a diatribe.

  Your post asked how the WT explained human sacrifice (and the DNA revealing the blood ties of Jews to the Canaanites.)

  Aren’t there bits in the Bible where the the Israelites did sacrifice children?

  How the WBTS would push bible verses and words this way and that! Why ? When they were not concerned with the axis of evil described in the Abraham / Isaac scenario.

  It seems that you study the Bible like a religious anthropologist ? Is there such a thing?
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  What does the WT say in response to the Bible command of human sacrifice?

  by Crazyguy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in the bible at exodus 22:29 and numbers 3:13 its very specific that the first born males belong to god.

  at leviticus 27:28,29 is specifically says all that is given to the lord even the sons can not be ransomed and are to be destroyed.

  this makes it clear that human sacrifice of the first born males was expected.

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  humbled

  All of the above needed a massive edit.I wasn’t able to get in under the wire

  So it goes that post is pretty much laughable because I was talking to the phone in a parking lot.

  Unless you buy this garbage wholesale, prepackaged from a preacher who is selling it to you you have to sit and figure it out in your real life.

  Ain’t happening. And I ain’t buying.
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  What does the WT say in response to the Bible command of human sacrifice?

  by Crazyguy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in the bible at exodus 22:29 and numbers 3:13 its very specific that the first born males belong to god.

  at leviticus 27:28,29 is specifically says all that is given to the lord even the sons can not be ransomed and are to be destroyed.

  this makes it clear that human sacrifice of the first born males was expected.

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  humbled

  I don’t have my strong concordance with me right now. But the Leviticus 27:28,29 as the link above suggests had to do with things that had been “devoted to destruction“ as was mentioned of things like Jericho. But in reference to the dedicated children of the Israelites at least in the Scriptures there seemed to be consistency the substitution of a whole burnt offering of a sacrificed animal in the dedication of an oldest son.

  The premiere of this ritual (if the Bible were to make sense///omg Crazyguy—this stuff drove me crazy)\\\) had to precede the Jepththah business with his daughter or....he would have killed her as a sacrifice—something Jah didn’t go for according to other scriptures.

  The words used in Leviticus (if the story were true and followed a timeline)were in force before the Jephthah thing went down. There are a variety of Hebrew words that had to do with the law sacrifices. They are not the ones referring to Jephthah’s offering up of his daughter or of things sacrificed to Jehovah.

  The antecedents for this business of God and sacrifices of children really have the beginnings with Abraham and Isaac. You can see the concept was hard to put across.”Offer your son your only son Isaac whom you love” offer him in a place that I will show you” I got disfellowshipped basically on this issue. Presented the idea that the Scriptures never made the word for it offering and sacrifice interchangeable they were words that were different so different that they would appear in the same sentence as “sacrifice and Brett offering” it’s tedious to talk about but it was the only way to reconcile the idea that Jehovah to God who doesn’t lie and doesn’t think anyone would evil would have tempted his friend Abraham with an active he called evil. And that it says in James That God does not text anyone with evil.

  I told the brothers that if God did tell Abraham to sacrifice instead of “offer up”his son then he was a monster and a liar. The only way that God could get a pass on this is if they were some ambiguity in the word “burnt offering”

  The CO heard about it. There was more unpleasantness. They wanted Bethel to judge the matter. Bethel took about three months to process my information . They agreed with it and told me to shut the hell up. They wanted to keep the bloody picture in there my book of Bible stories. Saying that God told Abraham to Kill and burn his son.

  I caught hell about this whole thing and it showed me what lying sacks of shit the whole outfit were.

  I have little doubt the Bible is been thoroughly edited to try to patch up all the leaky pieces of the various bits and pieces that have been written over the years.

  Some poor Jewish Carpenter came along and saw how bad everyone was being treated under the freaking OT and he tried to make sense of it,treat people better and teach them how to love each other and you saw how that went.

  Good luck crazy guy
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  What does the WT say in response to the Bible command of human sacrifice?

  by Crazyguy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in the bible at exodus 22:29 and numbers 3:13 its very specific that the first born males belong to god.

  at leviticus 27:28,29 is specifically says all that is given to the lord even the sons can not be ransomed and are to be destroyed.

  this makes it clear that human sacrifice of the first born males was expected.

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  humbled

  http://lavistachurchofchrist.org/LVanswers/2009/12-02a.html

  Crazy guy—see if this helps.
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  Is he interested?

  by Sunnybear in

  1. social
  2. relationships

  i met a wonderful man on match.com several months ago.

  on our first date, there was amazing chemistry and we ended up having sex.

  it was not planned, it just happened.

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  humbled

  Anders says something that holds a key to the man: believe what he told you. He will suck your soul from you when he holds you and won’t commit because of religion.

  You must not settle for this unhealthy man. Don’t mistake his desperate desire to feed off you for love. As others have said that religion is destructive to happiness.

  Find a man who will treasure you. It is not this man. Not this man.
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  Cookthebooks--Here is your Leaked Elder Videos!

  by Atlantis in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  cookthebooks:.

  there are several leaked elder videos in the zipped file.

  use 7-zip or whatever program you use to unzip the folder.. https://we.tl/p41inlwgxa.

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  humbled

  7minutes 44seconds of the sonorous shit l listened to for 22 years. Haven’t been near it for 10.

  I am glad l lived long enough to put some years between me and that soul-sick toxic life-suck indoctrination .omg.

  Now, the Elder giving the ”Pillow Talk”—that should be posted on subways on a continuous loop

  Proud of anyone who grabs and posts that stuff in the light of day