Posts by Eliveleth

she has lost over 7 stone due to her cancer and is finding it almost impossible to eat now.....see the difference in a couple of years .. ......she has been giving all her belongings away too recently

Eliveleth

Dear Ninja,

It is so sad to see a loved one suffer. My love and prayers go out to you, your mom and your family.

Love and hugs,

Gramma Velta

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i hate the feeling that I'm constantly being controlled...

by cognac in

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friends

every freaken thing i do is under a constant microscope... i feel like i'm constantly being judged and questioned and interrogated or "encouraged" to live my entire freaken life in a way that i don't want to.

i can't even have an opinion they don't like.

i feel like i'm suffocating and can't breath sometimes... why the hell can't i just simply live a peaceful life???

Eliveleth

Love you, Honey,

I am so sorry that you are going through this, but one day you will be free. You

will look back on this and laugh!!!

I know it is hard to believe, but you will.

Love and hugs,

Gramma Velta

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My life growing up as a witness...

by RFlores in

i have just spent the last 4 hours reading many various posts and finally built up the courage to register and share my experiences.

i am only 20 years old, but my young age should not overlook my intelligence as an observing individual.

i was born into the religion of the jehova's witnesses.

Eliveleth

Dear One,

Welcome!!! I hear you. I feel your pain. It is so good to be able to express your pain to those who understand. Your experience is not unique. Over the generations, this story has been played out over and over. I am 76 years old. I was a child in the WT. My father was stern, strict and we were required to be little adults at the Kingdom Hall or else!! In my generation, all male elders (they called them servants in my time) also had the privilege of telling you what to do, our father allowed and encouraged this. I do not know why, but I felt that these men were not being directed by Jehovah. I think children are more intelligent than people give them credit for. I was abused by my father, but I KNEW that God did not approve of what he did. I did believe that it was Jehovah's Organization (I have since found out that it is not).

What the WT and even some other religions claiming to be Christian say or claim does not necessarily reflect who God is. But when you are raised in an organization or church that claims to follow God and then does things that clearly are not loving, it is hard to separate the organization form God. Many XJWs are atheists. Do I blame them for this? Not at all. When we are taught that God is love, but those in power in the organization do not show love, what are we going to believe? Our experience says: God is not love and we look for examples of this lack of love in the Bible. Pretty soon we can convince ourselves that there is no God or if there is He doesn't care.

You are right. They search out scriptures to use that justifies their treatment of women and children in the organization as less than men. They take scriptures out of context (which they condemn in other religions) and use them to demean people. When you speak out about this they call it JW bashing.

You said: "I think to myself at times, why would Jehova God the creator of all life, the master of the universe, the entity who is said to be able to peer into all our souls, why would he treat me as a "exile" if I have him in my heart, and it effects how I live my life?"

YOU ARE RIGHT!!

The WT teaches us that we must have WORKS in order to gain salvation. The God of the universe reads our hearts and accepts us. I believe that if you ask Jesus to be Lord of your life that you do not have to follow the directions of men. He will teach you what is good and acceptable. You do not need man to tell you what to do.

You said: " yes i dress like a hoodlum with baggy jeans and yankee hats".

Honey, my sweet grandson who would never hurt anyone, wore baggy pants and baseball caps until after he was married. He was a skateboarder. I did not think he dressed like a hoodlum (I thought it was messy, but then I am a gramma hee hee) I do not consider that what you wear reveals who you are inside. You sound very normal to me.

You said: "Jehova is in my heart and will always be. I think religion is a very big problem with this world, because instead of people living together as humans, we are killing each other because we have a different interperatation of what lies beyond the darkness of space".

God does not judge us by what we believe. The only thing the Bible says that we must "believe that Jesus is the Son of God and that he died for us". All other doctrines have to be just information regarding God and not a requirement for salvation. You are right, religious people are killing each other over differences. AND IT IS NOT GOD'S WILL!!!

You are wise beyond your years. It takes some of us a lifetime to know what you already know.

We are so happy to be here for you to "unload" your thoughts. It is essential to dump all the garbage and then start healing. We love you and are here for you.

Love and hugs,

Gramma Velta

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I finally Left!

by The Doc 58 in

i would like to give the full details of my leaving the jw's, but i don't have a lot of time at this moment.

basically i was raised in the organization and it drove me pretty insane bacause my father was an elder, mother a pioneer, sister a bethelite, etc.

so, i did the whole thing for a long time.

Eliveleth

Welcome, Doc,

Isn't it great? It is so wonderful to be able to say you are free. Looking forward to

hearing your story.

Love and hugs,

Velta

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Witness Sister suffers a Stroke - See Niece & Nephew 1st time ,11 years

by flipper in

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friends

well , my sister who is 56, a witness, suffered a stroke a few days ago and i saw her at the hospital yesterday from afternoon till mid evening.

she is doing better than a few days ago as she is able to finally move her right arm a little bit which she had not been able to wednesday after the stroke.

she can talk , but is still speaking with difficulty a bit .

Eliveleth

flipper,

So sorry your sister had a stroke. My uncle had a stroke and could never really express himself afterward, but you could see that

his brain and memory were still there, it was just his ability to speak. Strokes take many different turns. I hope that she completely

recovers. This can happen. I will be praying for her.

It is good that someone told you about her, as has been said sometimes you don't hear what has happened until much later. My son was

dead for a week before we knew.

Sometimes it takes a tragedy for people to reconnect. I am happy you were able to be with your sister, niece and nephew.

Love and hugs,

Velta

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In my computer room

by wings in

i have a nice window looking out on a tree lined street.

i have an old table cloth nailed in the window that i pull back with a hair clip during the day.

all day i watch families on bike rides, dog walkers, and i have my own personal road runner searching for lizards.

Eliveleth

Hi everyone,

My "computer room" is a desk crowded up close to my bed. I used to have a room to myself for my computer, but gradually my family

grew to 8 people and crowded me out. It is better than it was, my old computer crashed so now I have an all-in-one which takes up about a foot and a

half, about half of my desk. My fax/copy/printer is next to it. I have three shelves above it where I have all my supplies, CDs. My total 'office space' is about 5x5x6. It is a little crowded, but it works.

Love and hugs,

Gramma Velta

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LADIES: .....Do you HONESTLY want your husband to be your best friend?

by Bourne in

some women i have known speak of their desire to have the person they marry to also be their best friend.......other's relate that they already.

have a best friend in the form of a longtime girlfriend, and would rather have their husband be their "husband".

so.....which is ladies?

Eliveleth

My husband and I are totally different people, with different interests in many areas. But he is my best friend.

He knows everything about me and totally accepts me as I am. It was not alway like that though. When we

were JWs, I allowed myself to be subservient to him and he accepted that.

Now that we are out of that control, things are so better. I could always share my heart with him, but now we have

more respect for each other. Next year will be our 60th anniversary. Hope we make it together.

Love and hugs,

Gramma Velta

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Davidic blood line.......

by nomoreguilt in

if then, mary was not of the davidic blood line, back to abraham, then how is it that jesus had the claim to that messianic seed promised through abraham?

the geneology of jesus goes back to abraham, right?

joseph was jesus step father.