jehoiakin was taken captive before jerusalem fell.
the counting of the gentile times.
the 2520 days of years would begin with the first fall of jerusalem, correct ?
Except for historicaly trying to set the record straight, the date really dosn't mater. The "time of the end is cut short on account of the Saints (Anointed) least ALL flesh be destroyed." That we can tell the time of "seasons" is all that is needed.
Makes these arguments moot!
Norval
that one in a position of responsibility for others, could a "minister / clergy / anointed / elder" be rightious in gods eyes in having a couple concubines besides the one wife?.
norval
*vomits on aryan blues shoes*
Norval
have you ever been so dam hurt from the things done to you in the so called gods organization that you wanted to just set down cry your guts out?.
i will list a few reasons but basically i feel that my reality has been denied to me as a young man growing up as a jw.. i was not taught to love god, but have excrement scared out of me if i did not do what they said, i too had an over bearing father who seemed to fit right in with jw's mind set.
i can still hear him now god rest his soul, he would say every morning if he happen to hear garner ted armstrong, honey listen they are robbing from the lords table.
What can be said of all the many wrongs that have been done to so many in the name of god?, As I do love my Father very much for giving me this life. Many have felt these injustices and wrongs you mention. Hope and trust in that one day you may look back on all of it and not stand for it being done again! You have learned a great lesson, learn and keep going.
Norval
yesturday my wife bumped into one of our former friends from the hall.. she tried to discuss a few points with him but as she hasn't done much research herself was a bit stuck when he told her that the reason the society dates the fall of babylon to 607 was because the jews were in captivity for 70 years which working back from 537 you come to 607.. i tried to explain to her that the bible does not specifically say the jews would be in captivity for 70 years but that in daniel it talks of the devestaions of jerusalem ,which could mean it rulership by babylon which started before they were taken captive.. beside that isn't it true that people were left over in jerusalem and only the elite taken?.
anyway at the end of 2 chronicals particually verse 21 it talks of the land laying desolate 70 years this would sujest that the 70 years maybe did refer to the desrution of jerusalem.. can anyone point me in the right direction on this?.
by the way this has no bearing on what i think just my wife as i don't believe the bible to be the word of god anyway, and there are far bigger problems with the witnesses time prophecies , i just need to show from the bible it is wrong as that is the only source of authority for some people.
,,, yeah yeah, I know i always get that date wrong for some reason,, it is 1948,,, but it still sticks!
Norval
i have been doing a lot of research lately on jws and the new world translation.
through history, i found that king james, in 1604, ordered a commitee to accurately translate the original scriptures, from hebrew and greek, into the english language.
this took 47 people 7 years to do and thus came up with the kj bible.
You may want to try using MAJOR different bibles, like the NWT, and a KJV, and the DR Catholic, the Goodspeed, and an orthodox Greek Bible. Now you will really see some MAJOR differences in MANY places. Protestant versions are just that, protestant versions, and all pretty much read the same.
that one in a position of responsibility for others, could a "minister / clergy / anointed / elder" be rightious in gods eyes in having a couple concubines besides the one wife?.
norval
We don't need scripture to understand truth and justness. If people can't accept fellow people, how can you ever expect to accept "angels" that arent even human?!
As with multiple wives and or concubinage, there are many "cultures" in the world, different "societies", totaly different way's of living and human relationships than most are even aware of. Or if they are aware they have learned only of some of the inhumane and unhuman practices of some of them.
How can anyone ever expect to go to "heaven" to judge "angels", if you don't have a clue as to their nature and culture? Research the history of our race. Polygamy and concubinage didn't get pushed aside till about 300 AD by the "church". It is better to learn how to use the wisdom of the scriptures than to quote them. The JW's are the very worst of the Saducees, and of Nikolationism! Elders apointed over Anointed! NEVER! The destruction of families and homes in far off lands has reached into the tens of thousands because of the WT practice of hollier than the rest of religions attitudes.
To each their own when it comes to multiple women in a home!
Thank you Celo, and Puff, I had to wait a day to respond as that really PmeO. *chuckles* PLM, yes the poster posted truth till the part on raceism. I have known several homes with more than one wife and or "companion women". Many are going to have a hard time with the passage about "7 women will take ahold of a man,,, etc" when it gets fullfiled.
Norval
why do i believe the bible is the inspired word of god anyway?
here are some answers i consider wrong .
1. it just fell out of the sky.
Well, gee, I wonder who and WHY it has been tampered with? ROFLMFAO
It was only a test,,, only a "hoax" as REM says.
Try this cute little bible quize,,,
http://home.cinci.rr.com/dancers/wmdbq/index.html
why do i believe the bible is the inspired word of god anyway?
here are some answers i consider wrong .
1. it just fell out of the sky.
REM
You answer, and I will.
Trust? What has that got to do with what I can understand or their lack of science knowledge? As for your usage of a "religionists mystical word" (spiritual), what the hell does that mean to you? *chuckles*
Norval
six catholic priests suspended after claims of sex abuse.
the roman catholic archdiocese of boston said that it had.
suspended six more priests because of accusations of past.
,,, nope, yer not gonna see any torn business suits on the GB, or ashes on their heads,,,, ROFLMAO
how do the members of the gb carryout their everyday tasks.
where do they live, how comfortable do the live.
how do the people at bethel regard them , how much power do they have?.
What I find totaly shocking is that for some 15 million people to folow a religion where nobody seems to know squatt diddley crap about the INSIGHT of the Anointed, or the handfull of un-anointed that get those insights and are to pass them on to you all?!?!?!?!?!?
Really people! I am dumbfounded at this FACT! You all dont know nuthin about HOW this all happens and is happening!
Norval
