I think this has been discussed before. If anyone could provide some links that would be great.
I tried the "Google" search and didn't come up with anything. I am terrible at doing searches.
Thank You,
I.Wonder
i think this has been discussed before.
if anyone could provide some links that would be great.. i tried the "google" search and didn't come up with anything.
i am terrible at doing searches.. thank you,.
I think this has been discussed before. If anyone could provide some links that would be great.
I tried the "Google" search and didn't come up with anything. I am terrible at doing searches.
Thank You,
I.Wonder
bible teach book says:.
17 the bible shows that all the many forms of false religion are part of "babylon the great.
" (revelation 17:5) that name calls to mind the ancient city of babylon, where false religion started up after the flood of noahs day.
Daystar I agree with you completely.
In the eyes of a JW there is "one true religion" anything outside of that is considered false.
Why do they insist on linking beliefs that are outside of their own to ancient Babylon?
bible teach book says:.
17 the bible shows that all the many forms of false religion are part of "babylon the great.
" (revelation 17:5) that name calls to mind the ancient city of babylon, where false religion started up after the flood of noahs day.
That one paragraph is loaded w false statements.
I agree with you.
3. That the trinity defintion is about more than one god
I am curious Satanus. What do you mean?
bible teach book says:.
17 the bible shows that all the many forms of false religion are part of "babylon the great.
" (revelation 17:5) that name calls to mind the ancient city of babylon, where false religion started up after the flood of noahs day.
How I wish I had something intelligent to say!
I don't know much about the Lilith story. Wasn't she thought to be the first wife of Adam?
bible teach book says:.
17 the bible shows that all the many forms of false religion are part of "babylon the great.
" (revelation 17:5) that name calls to mind the ancient city of babylon, where false religion started up after the flood of noahs day.
Bible Teach book says:
17 The Bible shows that all the many forms of false religion are part of "Babylon the Great." (Revelation 17:5) That name calls to mind the ancient city of Babylon, where false religion started up after the Flood of Noah’s day. Many teachings and practices now common in false religion originated long ago in Babylon. For example, the Babylonians worshiped trinities, or triads, of gods. Today, the central doctrine of many religions is the Trinity. But the Bible clearly teaches that there is only one true God, Jehovah, and that Jesus Christ is his Son. (John 17:3) The Babylonians also believed that humans have an immortal soul that survives the body after death and can suffer in a place of torment. Today, belief in the immortal soul or spirit that can suffer in hellfire is taught by most religions. (Bible Teach chap.15 p.152 par 17)
Can these practices be traced to any other place (post "flood")?
I.Wonder
so i've been deciding for the past year or so whether or not i want to stay in this religion, and i have decided that i do not.
i plan on telling my grandparents (whom i live with) this very soon, possibly tomorrow.
of course i can't be just like "i don't want to be a jehovah's witness anymore", but rather "i don't believe in this anymore, and here are the reasons why".
Hi AirDuster!
Gill said: "From my experience, the minute someone expresses doubt about the bOrg to a JW, in anyway they are never looked at in the same way again."
This has also been my experience. I expressed my doubts to my mother in-law and my hubbie. Now they go out of their way to tell me how JW's have "the truth" and "there is no where else to go", blah, blah, blah.
My husband and I get on just fine.... as long as I don't talk about my doubts. The second I do that he gets severely defensive and it is hell in my house for 3-days at least. He is always suspicious of me now. Just expressing my doubts has changed my relationships with these people. They do not treat me like they used.
My thoughts are with you!
I.Wonder
imagine that you are speaking to the general public, who really doesn't know a lot about the wts:.
) in your experience, as a member of the wts, what did outsiders correctly assume about jws?
what was the most common misconception?.
1.) In your experience, as a member of the WTS, what did outsiders correctly assume about JWs? What was the most common misconception?
They correctly assumed that JW's are a cult
2.) What question do you wish more people knew to ask, when a JW comes to their door?
You give many reasons as to why all religions outside of yours are false such as; failed prophecies, harboring pedophiles, and supporting government. How can it be that JW's are the true religion when they are guilty of the very things that supposedly make other religions false?
3.) Estimate the number of people that you spoke to while you were an active JW. How many from that number asked you a thought provoking question that led you to do some research? (What was the question?)
I was informally witnessing to women and we were discussing the trinity doctrine. After a while I became frustrated and told her that "the word trinity isn't even in the bible" she replied "neither is Kingdom Hall or Jehovah's Witness. That shut me up and I just listened to what she had to say. She got my wheels turning for sure.
i have been reading here for a while but as you may of noticed the assembly games post has flushed me out!
it has been fascinating to read all your experiences and to know that the stuff that i thought was odd, was thought odd by others as well.. two things made me leave:.
1. i found i could not do return visits as i did not want to break up families.
Welcome Stezza!!!
I recently joined JWD as well. More and more are joining as the real truth comes out. So glad you joined!
Brightest Blessings,
I.Wonder
it really pigs me off now when i think back to what i was told to get rid of when i was studying.my collection of stephen king books, my new madonna like a prayer record that i loved, my alice cooper and guns and roses album.
i was even told not to listen to classical music because some of the composers led such debauched lives!also any film with an 18 certificate was a nono in case others were stumbled - even though i have seen other jws reading stephen king books and watching 18 cert films and my husband had the complete madonna collection!and of course depeche modes 'personal jesus' song which i loved.
and my lost boys album and video cos it was about vampires.i was just wondering what sort of things were you told you should get rid of and why?
"Moat" wtf?
I meant "Most"
Sorry!
I.Wonder
it really pigs me off now when i think back to what i was told to get rid of when i was studying.my collection of stephen king books, my new madonna like a prayer record that i loved, my alice cooper and guns and roses album.
i was even told not to listen to classical music because some of the composers led such debauched lives!also any film with an 18 certificate was a nono in case others were stumbled - even though i have seen other jws reading stephen king books and watching 18 cert films and my husband had the complete madonna collection!and of course depeche modes 'personal jesus' song which i loved.
and my lost boys album and video cos it was about vampires.i was just wondering what sort of things were you told you should get rid of and why?
I had been around “the truth” for a while and never got baptized. I went back to “the world” for a while and bought all kinds of stuff that were “bad”. When I made the really stupid decision to go back and get baptized I had to throw away and burn a lot of things. Like; my books on Wicca, Gnosticism, yoga, meditation, Harry Potter, The Lord of the Rings, Feng Shui, Buddhism, etc. Moat of my cds went in the trash, my dream journals, and even some t-shirts. I am still bummed about it.
I.Wonder