OnTheWayOut

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  New Zealand Begins Selling Kingdom Halls

  by KiwiBoy in

  1. jw
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  the wainui-o-mata hall is closing and from 01 february they will be relocated to the 200 seater hall in newlands.

  johnsonville is merging with the wellington west congregation and will be known at wellington central also to be located in the newlands hall.

  wellington east will remain in the hall in kilbirnie at this stage but rumour has it that this hall will also be sold and they will make up the third congregation sharing the newlands hall.

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  OnTheWayOut

  The end is so close, you can smell it.
  Not the end of "this system of things" but the end of Jehovah's Witnesses.

  It will drag on, but not as long as they have dragged along since 1914. They will fall apart one day in the future.
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  I almost died ...allow me to explain

  by Terry in

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  in 1923 i almost died.. allow me to explain .... .

  i wouldn't exist for another 24 years ...but.

  for a few seconds, on top a building, my grandfather, jack hybarger, stood with tears running down his cheeks and a small caliber pistol in his right hand.

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  Not everyone knows their "almost died" story, but every single human being has one. Had something interrupted an ancestor (or not interrupted them), completely different people would be alive today. So that seems to me to be the same as the JW looking across a river to see one of the elders, and the JW says "How can I get to the other side?" and the elder yells back, "You ARE on the other side."
  
  There are not completely different people or maybe there are.
  
  Here's my story. My father's father was still a lad when his family planned to move away from Chicago to California. One day, they sold their house and had a cashier's check in hand and were prepared to leave in a day or so.
  The very day that check was issued, the banks failed. So my grandfather's family had neither the house (already closed) nor any money (just a worthless check). Had they not closed, they would have had the house still or had they closed sooner, they would have cashed the check.
  With no money and no home, they moved in with family in Chicago and never went to California. Had one event changed that chain of bad circumstances, my father would have never been born and some completely different family would have been brought into existence in California.
  That's what life is like.
  
  
  
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  Video: Surprise Reunion After 10 years of Shunning

  by NuzzleNudge in

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  https://youtu.be/ribgldualbm.

  my husband hadn’t seen his sister for 10 years.

  we were jehovah's witnesses and thanks to their disgusting, arbitrary brainwashing, 10 years of loving our family was wasted shunning them.

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  Nice. Really awesomely nice.
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  Poll/ So Who Do You Think Will Win The Presidency?

  by minimus in

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  i have always felt trump will win again.

  i just don’t see biden winning.. what’s your prediction?.

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  Min- He’s directed (illegally) millions of dollars from
  US taxpayers “.... prove it

  Here's the thing. I shouldn't have to prove it. Even if it was technically legal, you very well know it is happening and then you just excuse it.

  And despite my not being a fan of Biden, instead of looking at yourself excusing it, you will just say "What about Joe?"
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  Poll/ So Who Do You Think Will Win The Presidency?

  by minimus in

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  i have always felt trump will win again.

  i just don’t see biden winning.. what’s your prediction?.

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  Min- "...he certainly has put America first."

  I wanna walk away, but I just can't.

  As of Jan 1st, 2020 Trump has spent one out of every three days as president visiting one of his luxury resorts, hotels or golf courses. So of course the lock down drove him nuts.

  He has directed millions of dollars from U.S. taxpayers to his businesses around the globe and created a mountain of potential conflicts of interest. Even though what Biden is accused of with Hunter is terrible, it pales in comparison.

  Trump has promoted his properties in front of the United Nations. And he has encouraged foreign governmental entities to rent condos in Trump properties....and they do so as they seek to curry favor. Trump has literally called the emoluments clause "phony." In September, USA TODAY, said that Trump has surpassed 2300 conflicts of interest, according to Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington. Remember when he wanted the G-7 Summit at his Miami resort? And when you get a chance, check on Jared and real estate dealings, or why he wants the FBI building to stay where it is despite the higher cost than moving it.

  Just as he said Mexico would pay for the wall, Donald Trump promised to divest from his businesses, then said he didn't say that.
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  Why don’t couples have to remarry when becoming JWs?

  by enigma1863 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  you have to get baptized even if you were baptized in several other religions so why don’t they require you to remarry your spouse, especially if you were married as a mormon or muslim and had multiple wives.

  some countries legally allow polygamy so you couldn’t necessarily just go by the laws of the country right?

  these problems probably never come up though because i bet not many flds or muslims become jws.

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  They don't rent out the hall for weddings and funerals, so why would they want a bunch of newbies using the hall for free to have a wedding.

  Plus, they probably have some hang ups about people already living together (in a legally recognized marriage) perhaps with children, and then denying that they are married in God's [Watchtower's] eyes.
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  Poll/ So Who Do You Think Will Win The Presidency?

  by minimus in

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  i have always felt trump will win again.

  i just don’t see biden winning.. what’s your prediction?.

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  Trump continues to dog whistle to the haters.

  He offers much more to them to show up on election day than Biden offers to his own base.

  Still, so many have woken up to the facts that Trump has just been devisive and self centered and has totally botched COVID19, that even without Biden offering much, many will vote to end Trump's time.

  So it is a toss-up. I hope Trump supporters keep thinking it is in the bag and Biden supporters keep thinking it is not a sure thing.
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  Resolution passing with zoom

  by jonahstourguide in

  1. watchtower
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  hi folks.. i put this in practices as i thought that appropriate.

  perhaps it should be in scandalous behavior.

  not a big deal but an example of the cult-ish intimidation and behavior.. at the end of this mornings short wt review prior to the convention brainwash by jackson, ( melbourne australia) the elder stated "brothers we have a resolution to present to the congregation".

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  OnTheWayOut

  Wow, its just about always been this way, but to outright say that the elders will help you understand the reasoning behind this- that sure sounds like a warning not to raise your hand.

  I might have done it anyway. I was slow to leave but was waking up in my last few years.
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  So...what do you think about The United States of America?

  by minimus in

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  i know the usa is not perfect.

  there have always been social issues and differences.

  politics has been for many people divisive.

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  USA, you ignored Puerto Rico when it was devastated. Your leader downplayed a pandemic and magnified the consequences. Your Congress spent trillions on making rich people feel a sense of hope for themselves and threw some crumbs to the people.
  
  USA, you have homeless people and vacant buildings sharing the same areas. You have humongous healthcare costs and kept healthcare linked to employment, then destroyed your economy and the employment.
  
  USA, you have no national standards for caring for the health or the education of the people.
  
  Other countries have felt that Americans are ignorant and rude and self-centered. And then with Bozo in charge, their feelings were confirmed.
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  What is REALLY behind the destruction of the Postal Service? I decided to research it ...

  by Terry in

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  i don't know about you - but i never know when i'm being lied to or told the truth any longer.

  partisans are tribes warring on truth.

  i decided to see what i could find out historically and this is what i've come up with.

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  While your opening post if full of truths, why are you avoiding the current situation where Bozo put another clown in charge and they are sabotaging whatever functionality is left of the post office?
  
  A jealousy thing about a billionaire owning a newspaper and wanting to muck it up over the election.