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  Much of the words Jesus really uttered might not have reached us

  by Ireneus in

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  much of the words jesus really uttered might not have reached us and what has reached us could not have been originated from jesus.

  for example, eagle-eyed jeremiah could declare that what was circulating during his time as ‘the law of jehovah in fact was falsehood or deception of the lying pen of scribes or of the dishonest scribes.’ (jeremiah 8:8, berean study bible; christian standard bible; good news translation).

  jesus who had even sharper eyes than jeremiah and also anointed by holy spirit would even use sharper words to describe the invalidity of that law than jeremiah did.

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  OnTheWayOut

  Trust me when I say that any and all words uttered by an alledged 'son-of-God' from heaven did indeed reach us.

  But the other part of your statement, "what has reached us could not have been originated from Jesus" is very true at the same time.
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  So What Drastic Money Change is Next?

  by OnTheWayOut in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  okay, they cheapened the product by getting rid of hardcover books.

  they reduced printing of mags.

  they drastically reduced the number of pieces of printed paper that members would "place" in people's hands in various ways, the biggest one being that they put them on a cart and don't encourage people to take them.they cut d.o.

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  Boredposter: Is it possible congregations that don't keep up with the asked for amount of money would be disbanded? Even if they are considered spiritually healthy in all other ways?

  I can't resist making this comment. No congregation (or individual) is considered "spitually healthy" if they are not donating an expected amount.
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  So What Drastic Money Change is Next?

  by OnTheWayOut in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  okay, they cheapened the product by getting rid of hardcover books.

  they reduced printing of mags.

  they drastically reduced the number of pieces of printed paper that members would "place" in people's hands in various ways, the biggest one being that they put them on a cart and don't encourage people to take them.they cut d.o.

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  truth_b_known:
  I think having a monthly Assembly. Each Assembly probably averages $10,000.00 to $20,000.00 a pop. There's no way it costs that much to run a one day Assembly.
  If the average congregation has 100 publishers and the WTBS charges $10.00 a head, that's $12,000.00 per congregation per year.

  We have some real thinkers here. I could imagine the cry that "in many places" the Kingdom Halls are targets of Satan, so they go to internet viewings and assemble once a month or so at Assembly Halls. That allows for still atrongky suggesting a donation minimum and so many members would be happier to only gather that one day as a trade off.

  I'm going to predict that happens within 20 years.

  This thread kept going because so many wonder whats next.
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  So What Drastic Money Change is Next?

  by OnTheWayOut in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  okay, they cheapened the product by getting rid of hardcover books.

  they reduced printing of mags.

  they drastically reduced the number of pieces of printed paper that members would "place" in people's hands in various ways, the biggest one being that they put them on a cart and don't encourage people to take them.they cut d.o.

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  OnTheWayOut

  Will any of it work? Will it matter?
  
  I felt that I gave my time and I didn't give so much of my money (not that I had much to spare).
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  So What Drastic Money Change is Next?

  by OnTheWayOut in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  okay, they cheapened the product by getting rid of hardcover books.

  they reduced printing of mags.

  they drastically reduced the number of pieces of printed paper that members would "place" in people's hands in various ways, the biggest one being that they put them on a cart and don't encourage people to take them.they cut d.o.

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  OnTheWayOut

  AOL is almost dead, but it is still free to have email, same with all the others. They sell advertising and record hits of members to certain sites, they mine members for data.
  
  So I can see jwmail and all things JW being pushed on the internet. And I see them paying the taxes and pushing
  Christian products.
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  So What Drastic Money Change is Next?

  by OnTheWayOut in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  okay, they cheapened the product by getting rid of hardcover books.

  they reduced printing of mags.

  they drastically reduced the number of pieces of printed paper that members would "place" in people's hands in various ways, the biggest one being that they put them on a cart and don't encourage people to take them.they cut d.o.

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  Okay, they cheapened the product by getting rid of hardcover books. They reduced printing of mags. They drastically reduced the number of pieces of printed paper that members would "place" in people's hands in various ways, the biggest one being that they put them on a cart and don't encourage people to take them.
  
  They cut D.O.'s and staff, they sold Brooklyn properties, they are selling Kingdom Halls. Many conventions are at their own facilities in smaller venues than rented stadiums. They robbed every frigging congregation in the world of their bank accounts.
  
  I am sure I forgot quite a few other cuts or steals. But what is next? Speculate as soundly or wildly as you dare. Tithing? Will they ask that you check your shoes at the door of Assembly Halls to cut down on carpet wear? Maybe they will have you bring your own toilet paper and haul off your own trash as you leave. Perhaps an absolute end to printed materials.
  
  
  
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  Season 1 Episode 1 A&E Cults and Extreme Belief (Video)

  by TerryWalstrom in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  https://www.aetv.com/shows/cults-and-extreme-belief/season-1it will post soon on site..

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  I watched the program after the fact from the internet. I appreciated it. I also used the opportunity to ping my wife's cognitive dissonance. I told her how there was a program from A&E that does a good job of explaining how Watchtower has a huge pedophile problem and that they mostly covered it up like the Catholic Church did so as to not put their organization in a negative light. I then said, "I know you won't watch it, but I want you to be clear that if they insist you get all your information from 'them' only, then you are not getting the entire truth."
  
  I was met with absolute silence until she said something about another subject.
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  Ten years ago - Our congregation held a leaving party for us

  by truthseeker in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  ten years ago, truthseeker and his family and other witnesses who were moving to different congregations were given a congregation leaving party at a community hall in new jersey.

  i had been planning my slow fade from the congregation for a while.

  i grew up in the south coast of england as a third generation jw and moved to america in july 2001. .

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  OnTheWayOut

  Writing about it was so therapeutic to me. Thanks for sharing. I hope to read your book.
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  Season 1 Episode 1 A&E Cults and Extreme Belief (Video)

  by TerryWalstrom in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  https://www.aetv.com/shows/cults-and-extreme-belief/season-1it will post soon on site..

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  OnTheWayOut

  I'm hopefully able to view this tomorrow. Thanks for the link.
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  EXJW Tattoo

  by blownaway in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  if anyone has any ideas or pictures of a tattoo that would sum up being an ex jw please share.

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  OnTheWayOut

  A general tattoo could be something like a chain breaking.
  
  A specific one that demonstrates something about being an ex-JW might be a Watchtower symbol with the red circle around it and the slash through the middle.
  
  Perhaps a BORG from Star Trek with "Resistence is NOT Futile"
  
  .....or the three letters "XJW" in some cool way.
  
  .....or a Smurf