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  The Creation of Jesus

  by berrygerry in

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  seeing a trinity thread.. can a jw apologist explain what (not who) is jesus?.

  prior to the creation of everything 13.7 billion years ago (draw close book), jehovah created jesus as his firstborn, his only-begotten.. there was nothing else - no stars, no dust, no matter - just jehovah - and then, just jehovah and jesus.

  so, what was jesus?.

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  OnTheWayOut

  You just have to watch enough science fiction to figure it out.
  Jehovah was pure energy and Jesus was a portion of that pure energy. Jehovah was lonely after spending eternity alone so he took a part of himself and made it independent.
  
  Jesus saw that Jehovah was kind of a dick and created more stuff so he wasn't stuck alone with such a dick.
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  The Second Coming of Christ

  by maccauk in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the second coming of christ was in the 1st century at the destruction of jerusalem the temple the law and the old covenants.

  so the new eternal covenant came into force in which people of every tribe tongue and naation would enter into.

  the new jerusalem not built by human hands nor with bricks and mortar its spiritual cannot be seen but people will stream to it the sin issue is done there is no more judgment for those in christ .

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  So,if you subscribe to the thought that the "second coming" was not so clearly an easily-viewed arrival with an army of angels or trumpet blasts or whatever, but rather that the temple destruction meant that Christ was there now in a spiritual temple, do you also subscribe to the thoughts similar to Jehovah's Witnesses that people needed a "sign of Jesus presence" or arrival?

  Because, let me tell you. It seems that the Bible was clearly written to indicate that people expected Christ to literally and physically return within a generation (40 years or so) of the time of his death. And I would say that they were greatly disappointed that he did not literally and physically return. The cult of Christianity should have died off.
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  Did you leave the JW RECENTLY? Really? Recently? WTF were you thinking?

  by The Real Edward Gentry in

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  2. friends

  not to be overly harsh...but if you just left, what the hell were you thinking?

  between 1995 and now, you never did an internet search of "jehovahs-witness" or "watchtower"?

  good god.

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  You're the 'real' Edward Gentry? Who's the pretend one?

  Jon Voight played 'Edward Gentry' in DELIVERANCE. So he is the wanna be.
  
  
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  How Many Witnesses Would Really Take Blood?

  by minimus in

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  up until the very end, my mother refused blood.

  it didn't matter if it was a blurred line or not, the bible says "no blood"!

  i wonder if she was in the minority, in her thinking.

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  I believe that most parents that face serious problems on the blood issue with their child are very hopeful that a judge will take the decision away from them, even though they cannot admit it.
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  JW Parents getting... DIVORCED

  by raven in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  hello everyone!it has been quite some time since i've posted, but a lot has happened.

  i am still with my boyfriend (mentioned in my past and very first post!

  ) life is going well.

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  People get divorced. JW's pretend they are less stricken with divorce, but that really just isn't so.
  I would just use it as a reason to be tighter with your mom. She'll need an experienced ex-JW to lean on as her JW friends will not be so kind.
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  Did you leave the JW RECENTLY? Really? Recently? WTF were you thinking?

  by The Real Edward Gentry in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  not to be overly harsh...but if you just left, what the hell were you thinking?

  between 1995 and now, you never did an internet search of "jehovahs-witness" or "watchtower"?

  good god.

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  Not to be overly harsh...but if you recently insulted a large number of people on a forum where they go for help, what the hell were you thinking? Between 1995 and now, you never figured out that it's a mind-control cult and intelligence and access to the internet had little to do with people staying.
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  The Trinity Easily Explained in 29 Words

  by maccauk in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a man can be a father .

  a man can be a son.

  a man can be a husband.

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  maccauk
  bullshit is two words

  The online Oxford Dictionary and Wikipedia list it as one word. But if you need less words, use "Bollocks."
  When you get to too few words, it loses some of it's explanation.
  
  "Total Bollocks" is sufficient but "Made up Bullshit" tells so much more.
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  The Trinity Easily Explained in 29 Words

  by maccauk in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a man can be a father .

  a man can be a son.

  a man can be a husband.

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  I can do it in 3 words
  
  Made up bullshit.
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  If WT are cutting back on mags will they also cut back on Bethelites?

  by truthseeker in

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  i was thinking after hearing about the agm cutbacks to the mags and other website content surely they will end up dismissing more bethelites?

  i would have thought in the old days, before the web, an artist or writer at bethel would have been a full time job making content for four 32 page mags a month.

  now what are these guys going to do?.

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  What a greatly run cult. When you can't afford to keep your stipend low paid volunteers.
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  Contradicting Society directives

  by stuckinarut2 in

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  2. beliefs

  with the agm changes, and the changes over the recent few years, it struck me just how contradictory and hypocritical the society is.. we were always told that "wonderful expansion" and growth in halls was proof of god's blessing.

  now it is the other way around, and building expansion is halted.. we were always told that door to door is the best way to take the "life saving" truth to people.

  now it is the cart work.... we were always told that the abundance of "spiritual food" in the form of publications was proof of gods direction and teaching.

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  OnTheWayOut

  While you are correct, stuckinarut2, don't forget this important fact:
  
  Everything is proof of God's blessings and proof that the time left is reduced. Good times on Earth are proof of the devil's influence, bad times are proof of wickedness in the end of this system of things.
  
  So to many JW's, the organization is going through a sifting/refining/shaking out or whatever because Satan's machinations are afoot...or something like that.