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  PLEASE HELP! Assist in 1914 Rebuttal...

  by Jared in

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  ok, so i'm trying to just plant a tiny seed of doubt somewhere in the cracks of my mothers mind, but that woman has 'jehovah' tattooed on her chest!

  anyway, i would not only like help for her benefit but also for my benefit.

  so it all started when i questioned her about 1914.... i wrote to her: 'as you had suggested i wanted to do some research.

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  oh, goodie.

  JCanon and scholar are here to help us understand 607BC. First remove half of your brain.

  ozziepost: good point about the degree, it has disapeared.
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  Did you ever catch an Elder doing something "Un-theocratic"?

  by tazmaniac in

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  i remember finding 2 week old lottery tickets in a elders car i was working on.

  he said they must have been from the previous owner.

  he owned the car for over a year and a half and the lottery tickets were just a little over two weeks old.

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  There is a local Elder that had a sand and gravel company for a little time. In a fast growing Southern Nevada community he is the only company of that kind to go out of business. He would always do dirty deals with people. Give them a load of pit run dirt and charge them for type II gravel, or charge them for more gravel than what he delivered. I was at another Elders house one time and was admiring a load of gravel that he had delivered for his driveway and asked who he had received it from. It was a different color gravel than what the Elder Sand and Gravel companies pit usually had. Well, this Elder would not give me a straight answer as to whom he had bought it from, because he knew how bad the other Elder was.
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  Lap Dancing

  by Pleasuredome in

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  a friend of mine gave me a free ticket to a lap dance club tonight, and ive just got back from there.

  its the first time i've ever been to one so i was intrigued as to what it was all about.

  after going there i dont know what to make of it.

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  I think that it is a matter of personal conscience. Would a mature Christian go to a strip club and order a lap dance. Lets first look at the meaning of some of the words. Lap is just a part of your body that appears when you sit down, there are no ties to mysticism with the lap and cannot be found to be wrong. The word dance and the act attached to it might have origionated in some cultures as a way to talk with the Gods while circling a campfire, or celebrating a good hunt. But more recently this has not been the case and many Christian parties have been held that included a dance, although touching of unmarried couples would not be allowed. Since, most of the act of a lap dance does not include touching, there could not be any problem for a consenting Christian to attend such an event. With that said I think that I will attend one as soon as possible.
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  Awake! - Gripped By Decline ...and Hysteria?

  by metatron in

  1. jw
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  recently, the total printing of the awake magazine has declined slightly - from.

  22, 755,000 to 22,530,000 while this may be temporary, it does coincide with a change.

  in style for this magazine.. .

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  would the two headed beast of Knorr/Franz parallel with Daniel or Revelation?
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  The God of Christians is Very Vague

  by frankiespeakin in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i no longer consider myself a christian.. i feel that there may be a god, but if there is, he's not the god christians worship, for such a god makes no sense.. if as the bible says we need to have faith in jesus to get everlasting life,,, why would this god make it so misleading and leave so much room for ligitmate doubt,,, by having this information passed on to us by men and organizations that have not been totally honest????.

  why would he use the bible to relate this information, when the bible is so full of errors????

  the evidence is very clear that the bible has been tampered with over the centuries, so that a reasonable person can have legitimate doubts about the bible's origins.. also, why would god use men who are so prone to dishonesty, to convey this lifesaving information?.

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  It was some of the watchtowers own literature that started me to believe that the bible couldn?t be as accurate or from as high of a power as it claims. I think it was an orange study book about the authenticity of the bible that first made me think about it. It went through all of the different sources that translated the bible and how much effort they went into making it accurate. And at the end of that chapter it said that there were still errors included because the men that translated it were only human. This made me wonder with all of the other claims of how powerful and loving this god is, would he allow his own book to have errors in it and possibly mislead people. There were also claims of scientific accuracies in the bible that even primitive man of that time had already figured out. The Egyptians had calculated the diameter of the earth before Moses was around.

  I guess the discussion is centered on the idea of if I believe in the Christian God or not? I think that I believe in a higher order, I don?t believe that it has been put down on paper yet.
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  New Directives to the Congregation in the UK

  by Jim Dee in

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  our latest elders meeting with the co has just occurred.

  new things arising are:-.

  1. before an ms or elder is appointed a specific question is asked:-.

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  The first two questions show that the child abuse issue is starting to bit them. But, it is almost a pathetic attempt at controlling it. ?Have you ever been a child molester?? ?Really??. Okay, you?re in. Every child molester out there would readily agree to this question. The fact that they are including the elderly shows a certain amount of desperation on their part. I love the meeting that highlights the annual growth rate. An Elder gets up to give a talk that highlights the statistics of some of the ?lands?. The thing that gets me is he will say ?such-and-such place had a 13% growth rate?, but fail to include that there are only 15 publishers in that country. It will be another year of cooking the books and showing a nominal growth rate.
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  ...has Already Committed Adultery

  by YoursChelbie in

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  here's my thoughts on why jesus said: .

  "..it was said, 'you must not commit adultery.

  ' but i say to you that everyone who keeps on looking at a woman so as to have a passion for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart.

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  A person?s conscience can be tied into a biblical code as the JW?s have done. That way they can all look at a subject and have a clear-cut answer. Once, you get away from them you must apply another set of morals, one that takes into account the other person. I would not commit adultery for the reason that I would not want to hurt my wife or family. Also, there are long-term issues that a person must consider. I made choices when I settled down and started a family, I am happy that I made them and will deal with the consequences.

  Do I lust after other women and look at other women. I am a guy, but please read through the first part of my post again.
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  Current Deception: March 8 Awake

  by metatron in

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  2. friends

  looking for nonsense and half-truths in the awake continues to offer all the challenge.

  of shooting fish in a barrel.

  the latest scare-mongering is entitled "the nuclear threat.

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  My knowledge on this subject is completely limited. There are items in satellites that seem to wear out over time. The batteries do not go on forever, the orbit slowly degrades, and there are probably other things that go wrong. It seems like everything has to be replaced at one point or another. Wasn?t the existence of the Hubble in question just a while back?

  As for the threat of a Nuclear Armageddon, I think that this is how the uneducated are supposed to be scared. I will agree that at this time in history we are probably at more of a risk of Nuclear weapons explosions from small governments or terrorist groups, but I seriously doubt annihilation. The whole idea behind nuclear proliferation was to stop such a threat. A few years back I heard a teen girl talk about the threat of an all out nuclear war at that time. This was during the time that the Soviet Union had dissolved and the threat was not the same as during the cold war days.
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  Good article about the NWT

  by starfish422 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  http://www.freeminds.org/doctrine/nwt.htm

  this is from the freeminds website.

  i love reading quotes in their full context and realizing how much the "brothers" have chopped them up to suit their own purposes.

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  scholar get bored, scholar go away. Now that would be a great thing. From now on I will not respond to what ever his name was.
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  Good article about the NWT

  by starfish422 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  http://www.freeminds.org/doctrine/nwt.htm

  this is from the freeminds website.

  i love reading quotes in their full context and realizing how much the "brothers" have chopped them up to suit their own purposes.

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  I once posted that scholar should add a BS to all of the other degrees, because that is what seems to come out the most. then he can add a PhD to the whole mess (Pile higher & Deeper).

  He really does like to put the credentials on the end of his posts. Just because a person gets religfious degrees makes them an expert on the religious bend oof every discusion.