this will be our second christmas since leaving the wts but we will be away in nz with besty's extended family so probably won't bother much with trees and decorations but the santa issue is playing on my mind, especially now podlet no.
1 is at preschool.. do we bring the children up to believe in santa & co with all the magic, mystery and excitement associated with the fairytale or do we tell him right away what the deal is - either route is going to feel very strange.
my gut feeling is to go along with the myth and give them those happy memories of wonder and anticipation - what do you all think?.
My advice....lie through your teeth!
When i split up from my ex, i so wanted my kids to believe in Santa but the ex was still a JW. I used to go out with a woman who had a child about the same age as my youngest, we told her about Santa, she loved it. The look on their faces was a picture.
My kids now are 15, 13 and 11. I regret not telling them the Santa story.
Paul
well i finally decided to send my letter to the boe.
it was a decent letter, i just stated that i no longer cared to be a jw,and that i enjoyed my time .
in the org, but it was time to move on.
If it works for you then that's a good thing. Some times i wish that i could DA myself, but it would bring too many issues to the front with regards to contact with my mother.
As for the elders wanting to speak to you, it is usual that they contact you to confirm that the letter is from you, that's all.
Paul
new world translation and you made them to be a kingdom and priests to our god, and they are to rule as kings over the earth.
"compared to new international version.
10you have made them to be a kingdom and priests to serve our god, .
New World Translation and you made them to be a kingdom and priests to our God, and they are to rule as kings over the earth."
compared to New International Version
10 You have made them to be a kingdom and priests to serve our God,
and they will reign on the earth."
Seems to be another clear cut case where the NWT has been mistranslated to fit in with JW beliefs. Seems as if just about every other translation uses the word "on" too. The original Greek word "epi" can apparently be translated for on or over.
Interestingly the Old J.W Interlinear (The EMPHATIC DIAGLOTT) published by the WTBTS and used for over 100 years as their teaching Interlinear show Rev. 5:10 as "on" and not "over". This was obviously being used prior to 1914 to show that Jesus' rule would be "on" the earth. With their failed predictions and new meaning of an invisible presence, comes the new interlinear.
Surprise, surprise, the new Kingdom Interlinear Translation (KIT) translates the word "epi" as over.
So it all fits. Unbelievable! It is only recently i have been discovering mistranslations in the NWT and find it fascinating.
Paul
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/11/11/amazon_pulls_scientology_expose/.
amazon uk pulls scientology expose for 'legal reasons'track this topic print story post commentsilences former member of church's 'secret army'.
by cade metz in san francisco get more from this author.
Scientologists are known for going agressively after those that criticise them. It wouldn't surprise me if they have threatened Amazon UK with litigation, or even started some.
Paul
a child's right to life must be protected.
by george pitcher.
last updated: 12:01am gmt 11/11/2008.
I have seen this case on the news tonight. The little girl is very brave and comes across in the interviews that she knows what she is doing.
David i do not believe this has got to court as you have suggested. From what i heard the hospital sought legal advise and eventually decided to respect the patients wishes.
Doctors interviewed on the piece i saw, were all of the opinion that the child's welfare, in terms of her wishes, should be taken into consideration. In this country 16 years old is the legal age, where a person can make their own mind up for medical treatment. That said, doctors will come to a decision based on what is in the best interests of the child, taking in the childs personal choices, if below the age of 16, but still having a view on their treatment.
In this case, the child has been through a lot of treatment throughout her life, with leukemia. The need for a heart transplant is because of damage caused by the treatment. In having a heart transplant, the girl is not guaranteed that it would work, she will be taking a combination of drugs so that the body will not reject the new organ, which in itself can lead to more complications.
In this case the child has been through a traumatic time with treatment her whole life and wants to have the option to live her time out in peace and dignity without treatment, she does not want to undergo more traumatic treatment, for something that can't be guaranteed. She has an old head on young shoulders. It would be difficult, if not impossible to find a doctor who would forcibly treat this child against her wishes.
My prayers shall be with her tonight.
Paul
the answer is no way if they are very diehard jws.
Thanks for your comments on this guys.
It has made me realise that i haven't been wasting my time, in that others have been reading what i posted on the other forum with my critique of the disfellowshipping policy.
I have made my last response on there, ending it with how teenagers are left alone by choosing to leave the WTS.
Paul
P.S. Besty your work is good on that link, keep it up, look forward to meeting you in London!
enjoy..... http://www.absoluteradio.co.uk/player/the_shock_of_the_lightning.html:hd:hd:hd.
paul.
BTTT
enjoy..... http://www.absoluteradio.co.uk/player/the_shock_of_the_lightning.html:hd:hd:hd.
paul.
today is a proud day for me.
i became part of my fellow citizens in this country by casting my vote.
it was a thrilling experience (more like a disney ride really, since the line wasn't that long).
I am glad you've voted ootb, i feel everyone should.
But i have to say i still don't get why you're an elder. I said it when you was made up and i still feel the same now. You are living a lie, i do not agree with reniaa's beliefs but i am kind of with her on this, but for different reasons.
Paul
hi peeps.
in the last two weeks i have been thinking of suicide everday.
don't panic i won't do it but cannot get it out of my head.
Just been pm'ing, it seems he cant see this thread for some reason, so worth pm'ing him,
Paul
