Posts by V
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What is the most hours you ever turned in on your F.S. report?
by gaiagirl ini once turned in 39 hours helping another to reach their pioneer goal.
fairly accurate reporting of the hours as well.
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Sorry hosting site seems to be down. Try this link direct to YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztQBKmIFqcc
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My brother (ex-JW) has recently gained custody of his daughter, who has been raised thus far by her JW mother. He has been using your videos to help her, as she still has visitation with her mother and is expected to attend meetings when she's with her mom. My brother is using your videos to "prepare" her for the upcoming WT studies, so she can see what's really going on. They're a big help.
That's all the motivation I will ever need. Thanks for that and good luck to your niece.
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its pretty hard to get past the apostate idea with jw's.
EXACTLY. That's why I do a hat-dance on any mention of "apostates" I find in the Watchtower. The loaded language is shameless, but once a Witness makes the connection...
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WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU?
by V injust another interesting comment i have received on the watchtower comments youtube channel.
feel free to deconstruct.... .
what is wrong with you?
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More correspondence...
I saw your video...... (click HERE to see the Watchtower Comments video)
Well, the whole changing things over and over might have been wrong, but like it says in the video about what the watchtower published back again in the 2000's that was supposed to be new but not new, and had actually already been published in 1927 about that "This generation will by no means pass until all these things be fulfilled." So, by saying that, even though, that has been kind of ignored and other things were said about the end in the 20th century, and now it is again repeated 80 years later, we know; we know, well at least I know, that was sort of a mistake by the Watchtower to have ignored that, but it is right that it HAS ALWAYS BEEN AROUND and HAD ALREADY BEEN PUBLISHED 80 years before. So, why they commited that mistake of Ignoring that "This generation will by no means pass until all these things be fulfilled", I don't know, but they did originally publish it 80 years ago,like mentioned in your video, and have at least had it in them to notice their mistake and publish it back again although it is 80 years later. So the thing about the "This generation......." , even though sort of ignored, has always been around for 80 years, which I've been aware of for years even before now; and now in the past years it has been republished. They made a mistake but have fixed it. So we have always originally had the belief of "This generation will by no means pass until all these things be fulfilled." and even though other things were published through out the years, I was born in 1991, so i didn't read those watchtowers, all the watchtowers and teachings I've gone through have always talked about the "This generation........." thing. So, my point was that, "This generation will by no means..........." has always been around, although ignored somewhat and other sort of different things said. BUT that mistake has been noticed and now fixed with republishing that statement more. So they didn't just suddenly come up with it, it has been around for 80 years.
And my response:I understand your point. Now imagine you were back in 1980. You had read all the old Watchtowers and you BELIEVED the generation was the anointed. (And eventually you would have been proved right!)
The problem was that the current "understanding" was very different. If you had insisited on believing that way, you could have been disfellowshipped for going against the Society.
This is my main point. To a Witness, what is right or wrong about the the Bible is NOT IMPORTANT. What is important is that you "believe" exactly what the Governing Body says...at this time.
Do you realize what that means? Witnesses are ignoring the Bible if it contradicts with the Watchtower. Shouldn't be the other way around?
Check out the latest Watchtower Comments video that addresses just that point: Valueless Propaganda and the Truth -
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WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU?
by V injust another interesting comment i have received on the watchtower comments youtube channel.
feel free to deconstruct.... .
what is wrong with you?
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Can you give us a link so we can see the video in question?
Here it is (also you can click on the blue text above): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJIl7GYjrxY -
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WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU?
by V injust another interesting comment i have received on the watchtower comments youtube channel.
feel free to deconstruct.... .
what is wrong with you?
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So I wrote back with this:
Thank you for spending a moment to share your thoughts with me. I am really concerned that you think I am stating "lies" and using a "false tongue."
Considering that I only use quotes from the Watchtower publications I am curious exactly what is untrue? Please give me examples.
I believe in truth, and that everyone should understand that. My videos do not state opinion but always back up their position with quotes and references.
Read back through your message to me and notice that all of your statements are an attack on me personally with no examples of how I have lied.
I grew up a Witness just like you. When I was 16 I thought just like you do. So I have a challenge for you, watch my videos and send me another message identifying any lies you found. I welcome the discussion.
Sincerely, VAnd got a respectable reply!
I very Much Apologize.
I'm Sorry and very much apologize for attacking you like that. I know that being a Jehovah's Witness I shouldn't be doing that. I was going to send a message after kind of apologizing but didn't have time to. Well either way, I still think what u are doing is kind of wrong. Let me ask you something though, you seem like a cool person man with they way you replied, what is it that you doubt about being a Jehovah's Witness. Yeah, we make mistakes but the false religions are so much worse. I know about the mistakes of Russell and Rutherford, I know about Beth Sarim, but as time comes the light gets brighter and we correct our mistakes, like how they used to celebrate holidays and stuff. So, What exactly is it that you doubt about being a Jehovah's Witness, that causes you to make these videos? SO, once again I apologize for being like I was with my first message but answer my question.
And my turn...
I trully believe that Witnesses are a good bunch of people. The main problem I have is about BELIEF. For example, last year you believed that "the generation" was unrighteous people who saw the signs of Christ's presence, right? But as soon as you studied the recent article, you now believe that the generation is anointed.
When the Governing Body changes its mind, millions of Witnesses change what they think. You see, for the most part Witnesses don't believe in anything. They just read the latest Watchtower and suddenly "believe" something different.
At some point I had to ask myself what I really "believe." I had to look closely at the Bible and the history of the organization. I realized that we are in a high-control group and that our minds are trained to turn-off if we receive any negative information about the organization.Now you seem to be willing to confront antagonists like me and I respect that. So I repeat my challenge, more specifically:
Watch the Generation video attached and explain to me how the Governing Body got it wrong for over 80 years. You see, they did not get new light in 2008, it was an old "belief" from 1927. Would Jehovah let his organization be mislead for a lifespan of years? There are many Witnesses in your hall that were literally lied to in the 60's, told they would never grow old or even retire.
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The Rapidly Emerging "NEW BREED" of Jehovah's Witnesses
by kool aid man06 inthe "ever-changing doctrine" of the watchtower org.
is now creating an "incubator of doubts" that seems to be "hatching" this so-called "new breed" of witnesses.
watchtower publications written with purposeful ambiguous articles seems to be allowing many witnesses to become extremely liberal in their way of thinking.the watchtower org's view, as of late, in making more things a conscience matter, blood issues, voting, alternative service, organ transplants, attending weddings and funerals in churches, celebrating holidays, etc.
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As an "active" JW, I completely agree with Kool Aid on this.
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WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU?
by V injust another interesting comment i have received on the watchtower comments youtube channel.
feel free to deconstruct.... .
what is wrong with you?
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Just another interesting comment I have received on the Watchtower Comments YouTube channel. Feel free to deconstruct...
What is wrong with you? I'm 16 and have grown up a Jehovah's Witness. But only because I've grown up in it doesn't mean I just believe everything we believe. Everything that we believe has been proved to me without even asking, from the bible. Dude, do you have nothing better to do than to make videos like this so that YOU can MISLEAD people from the TRUTH. Man, seriously GET A LIFE. At the end of your of your videos it says that you're an active Jehovah's Witness, so aren't you ashame? If that is all you are doing, misleading people to think we are liars and trying to scare people away from the truth, than what are you doing being a Jehovah's Witness or claiming to be one. You're an Apostate. You are the one confusing people into thinking we are not the truth, when in actuality the Jehovah's Witness and our beliefs come straight from the bible which is the word of God. Do your LIES to scare people into thinking we are fake and have false beliefs, and saying that we are not the truth, come from the Bible? I didn't think so. So you, posing as a Jehovah's Witness and saying these false things about us is just like it mentions in Matthew 12:34 "Offspring of vipers, how can YOU speak good things, when YOU are wicked? For out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks." so here it is saying that, you being a Jehovah's witness and speaking good, but yet you are wicked. You are in between the "abundance of the heart" but yet you speak falsely. That is why, like mentioned in Matthew 12:37 "for by your words you will be declared righteous, and by your words you will be condemned." So now that you know what is expected to happen to your for talking this way, I have a question for you, (Matthew 23:33) "Serpents, offspring vipers, how are YOU to flee from the judgment of Ge hen'na?" Man, you are just like satan himself. you are Jehovah's Witness but you are fake and wrong like satan himself, like it says in 2 Corinthians 11:14 "And no wonder, for Satan himself keeps transforming himself into an angel of light." You are a Jehovah's Witness but you are what Jehovah God hates, like mentioned in Proverbs 6:16-19(I'll put in caps the ones that especially pertain to you) "16 There are six things that Jehovah does hate; yes, seven are things detestable to his soul: 17 lofty eyes, A FALSE TONGUE, and hands that are shedding innocent blood, 18 A HEART FABRICATING HURTFUL SCHEMES, FEET THAT ARE IN A HURRY TO RUN TO BADNESS, 19 A FALSE WITNESS THAT LAUNCHES FORTH LIES, AND ANYONE SENDING FORTH CONTENTIONS AMONG BROTHERS." Keep in mind 6:19 because that is exactly what you are! So, find something to do with your life, because it is obvious you don't have one. And stop what you are doing, because you know from the bible yourself, "brother", what the consequences are.