Burst into tears and tell them that your mothers deadWell she is dead now. I'm the one that's getting shunned by my children now. What comes around goes around.
Sorry...
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What did you say when someone asked how's your mother doing?
by MsMcDucket inor any other family member that was not in "the cult"?
i was always embarrassed to say that i didn't know.
i never did learn how to deflect the question.
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What did you say when someone asked how's your mother doing?
by MsMcDucket inor any other family member that was not in "the cult"?
i was always embarrassed to say that i didn't know.
i never did learn how to deflect the question.
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Burst into tears and tell them that your mothers dead, that way they never put anyone on the spot like that again.
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You really had to read somebody's essay to determine how you know right from wrong? Are you serious?
No... I had to read somebody's essay to EXPLAIN how to know right from wrong. You did ask for an explaination, not for a "yeah I have morals" answer.
But whether they are my words or someone elses doesn't change whether they are right or wrong. (In the factual sense, not the moral sense. 'cause in the moral sense, it may have been wrong to plagiarize...)
For me, the Holy Spirit which resides in me tells me when I'm doing right or wrong.
Congratulations...
So how does the holy spirit know the difference between right and wrong?
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Sure vinny, posting it twice doubles the validity of your arguments... (2 * 0 = 0)
Is why I also used the bomb-explosions never turning into a New York city with buildings, plumbing, door knobs and yellow cabs. This is just plain old, laughable nonsense, passed down to people that want to cut out the reality that there is a God.
To which I responded: "The big bang resulted in nothing but a great big cloud of matter flying out from a central point. I could stop right there and nullify this argument, but I'll continue: Gravity caused the denser regions of this matter to come towards each other, forming... not cars, not buildings, not hollowed out cubes with doors. But instead: balls of matter, some balls are stars, some planets and some asteriods. Trust me, if gravity had the tendency to form hollowed out cubes or other such formations, then the universe would be a very different place. But that's not how gravity works.
Interesting fact though: All of those many explosions on the earth prove my point... what do these explosions do? They make coulds of debris, and what does the debris do? It doesn't stay in a disorganised could form. It is pulled by gravity towards the largest object nearby, namely the earth. So these explosions don't form cities, instead they do EXACTLY what the big bang theory says they should."
Yes we did this before, and I doubt that me repeating my arguements will make any difference either. So here's a link for anyone who needs a review to what the heck I'm talking about: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/132307/7.ashx (We started on page three.)
Then after that thread was finished, we talked more here: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/132946/1.ashx
This got old weeks ago. And I hereby refuse to respond to any arguements that you already made in those last two threads... this isn't even on topic. Please confine yourself to the Atheists thread. This thread is about morality and beauty, and I'm not gonna spend another 8 pages arguing the difference between cars and life forms.
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Satan is greater than god. Live with it.
by LtCmd.Lore inok, i know what you're thinking: "duh, what took you so long!
" "is this guy nuts?".
but i can prove it.. nothing is better than god, right?.
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Maybe you'll enjoy this as well.
Women take time and money: w = t * m
Time is money: t = m
Therefore: w = m^2
Money is the root of all evil: m = ve
Therefore, women are evil: w = e
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How lame Lore... nothing new from you once again. Guess school has not helped much at all.
Coming from a man who thinks that an automobile is an accurate parallel to biological organisms, an insult to my intelligence doesn't meen a whole lot.
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Perhaps you could just tell me directly what you base your notions of good and bad on?
Well it's explained pretty darned good in the link I gave you, but I'll summarize:
Actions have consequences. If we care about the outcome of our decisions - if we want to make the best choice in a given situation - then we need a set of principles to guide us whenever we are faced with a set of options to choose from.
Have you ever heard of Game Theory? Take the case of soldiers on a battlefield. Each individual soldier wants to preserve his own life, and so if he lets self-interest guide his decisions, the safest course of action for him would be to abandon his comrades and run away from the battle. However, if every soldier makes that same decision, the enemy will overrun their position, and more of them will be killed or captured than if they had all stayed to fight it out.
So if you do what's best for yourself, and everyone else does what's best for the group, you'll make out like a bandit. But if you do what's best for yourself and everyone else does what's best for themselves, you'll be worse off than if you did what's best for the group (AKA "the right thing")
If you read the part about the Prisoners Dilemma it makes even more sense.
Morality is by definition the way a person behaves in those situations that take the form of an multi-person Prisoner's Dilemma.
Now then Perry perhaps you could just tell me directly what you base your notions of good and bad on...
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They also have no answers of how they know right from wrong, good from bad.
Considering that you are not an atheist I'm not sure what you are basing this assumption on. But I disagree wholeheartedly. http://www.ebonmusings.org/atheism/carrot&stick.html
But I ask you, since your knowledge of good and bad is based on what god says. What if he decides to condone pedophilia? You may say that he would never do that... so my next question is: Where does HE get his concept of right and wrong?
Somebody has to make the decisions of what is right and wrong... why can't it be humans?
how do they know that their decendants might not think of them as a terrible person?
I for one am ABSOLUTELY POSITIVE that this will not be the case.... mainly because I'm never gonna have children.
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Though atheists say all the universe, earth and life on the earth happened to come together perfectly
On the contrary, there's nothing perfect about it. I don't live in a perfect world, I don't have a perfect body, and I don't exist in a perfect universe. Do you?
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Satan is greater than god. Live with it.
by LtCmd.Lore inok, i know what you're thinking: "duh, what took you so long!
" "is this guy nuts?".
but i can prove it.. nothing is better than god, right?.
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OK, I know what you're thinking: "
DUH, what took you so long!" "Is this guy nuts?"But I can prove it.
Nothing is better than god, right?
And nothing is inferior to Satan, right?
Satan is superior to nothing, and nothing is better than god.
So let G represent god, and S represent Satan, and N represent nothing.
N > G
N < S
S > N > G
So Satan is greater than god. Sorry Christians the math is undeniable.
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