Posts by LtCmd.Lore

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Could satan be the good guy?

by LtCmd.Lore in

well i'm an atheist, so now i can feel free to think whatever i want without getting struck by lightning.

but i've been playing with this idea for quite a while:.

is satan just looking out for the poor little humans?

LtCmd.Lore

LtCmd.Lore, Satan DID lie to Eve. He told her that they wouldn't die but they did. Granted, it wasn't immediately but they eventually died.

Well, then at least they both lied. But if I tell you that you will not die if you drink a certain liquid, and you live for another 900 years, I wouldn't call it lying. But If I say you will die that very day, and then you live for another 900 years that would be a lie. Of the two who was more truthfull?

And confusing languages didn't necessarily cause problems.

I beg to differ. The laungage barrier is just that, a barrier, and it has caused problems all through human history. What more can I say?

God didn't cause the wars, nor did he make humans go to war.

He caused wars in many ways, religious wars are fought all the time because of his bible. He ordered the Israelites to go to war all the time. Plus there is the language thing again. And maybe if people had more time to live they wouldn't be so desperate to get everything NOW.

Also, God didn't cause them to die and grow old. It was all a result of their disobedience.

If you can explain how that works I'd love to hear it, but as far as I can see. Either god created us wrong, so that he had to support us for all eternity lest we would die. Or he changed us physically after Adam sinned, so that we would grow old. Either way, he caused it.

And Satan is not the good guy. He knew and still knows that by him supporting or advocating human rule, he's disobeying God.

True, he is going against god, but just because god was in charge doesn't meen that all opposed to him must be evil. After all, Hitler was in charge for a time, but surely you wouldn't say that anyone opposed to him was evil, just because they went against the big guy. So yeah, Satan is against god, but what if god is wrong?

The only way to truly see if humans are better off without god, is to leave them as they were when the challenge was made. When that challenge was made, they were perfect, all spoke the same language, and would never have gotten sick. But god didn't let it that way did he? Why not, unless he may lose the challenge?

I don't mean to offend or pick on you. I'm just having fun with my new ability... free thought.

LtCmd.Lore

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Could satan be the good guy?

by LtCmd.Lore in

well i'm an atheist, so now i can feel free to think whatever i want without getting struck by lightning.

but i've been playing with this idea for quite a while:.

is satan just looking out for the poor little humans?

LtCmd.Lore

LtCmd.Lore, Satan DID lie to Eve. He told her that they wouldn't die but they did. Granted, it wasn't immediately but they eventually died.

Well, then at least they both lied. But if I tell you that you will not die if you drink a certain liquid, and you live for another 900 years, I wouldn't call it lying. But If I say you will die that very day, and then you live for another 900 years that would be a lie. Of the two who was more truthfull?

And confusing languages didn't necessarily cause problems.

I beg to differ. The laungage barrier is just that, a barrier, and it has caused problems all through human history. What more can I say?

God didn't cause the wars, nor did he make humans go to war.

He caused wars in many ways, religious wars are fought all the time because of his bible. He ordered the Israelites to go to war all the time. Plus there is the language thing again. And maybe if people had more time to live they wouldn't be so desperate to get everything NOW.

Also, God didn't cause them to die and grow old. It was all a result of their disobedience.

If you can explain how that works I'd love to hear it, but as far as I can see. Either god created us wrong, so that he had to support us for all eternity lest we would die. Or he changed us physically after Adam sinned, so that we would grow old. Either way, he caused it.

The only way to truly see if humans are better off without god, is to leave them as they were when the challenge was made. When that challenge was made, they were perfect, all spoke the same language, and would never have gotten sick. But god didn't let it that way did he? Why not, unless he may lose the challenge?

I don't mean to offend or pick on you. I'm just having fun with my new ability... free thought.

LtCmd.Lore

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Could satan be the good guy?

by LtCmd.Lore in

well i'm an atheist, so now i can feel free to think whatever i want without getting struck by lightning.

but i've been playing with this idea for quite a while:.

is satan just looking out for the poor little humans?

LtCmd.Lore

Insane? Well I never thought of that before but as you said, that would meen God screwed up anyway, how the heck would a spirit creature go insane... a chemical imbalance? I think not.

Anyways, what kind of leader would give a hoot what some random nutjob says? That's not saying much for gods wisdom. lol

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Could satan be the good guy?

by LtCmd.Lore in

well i'm an atheist, so now i can feel free to think whatever i want without getting struck by lightning.

but i've been playing with this idea for quite a while:.

is satan just looking out for the poor little humans?

LtCmd.Lore

That's mostly my point Vitty, the dubs say that Satan is behind all the wars and problems, but offer no scriptures to back it up. Plus common sense would indicate that he, the guy who said humans would be better off without god, would do everything in his power to make the world a better place... right?

LtCmd.Lore

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Could satan be the good guy?

by LtCmd.Lore in

well i'm an atheist, so now i can feel free to think whatever i want without getting struck by lightning.

but i've been playing with this idea for quite a while:.

is satan just looking out for the poor little humans?

LtCmd.Lore

Well I'm an atheist, so now I can feel free to think whatever I want without getting struck by lightning. But I've been playing with this idea for quite a while:

Is Satan just looking out for the poor little humans? Think about it. In the garden of eden, Satan didn't lie to Eve, in fact he told here a truth that god kept a secret. God did not kill them that day, like he said he would, and Adam and Eve were able to decide for themselves what to do, plus they became unretarded, and could tell that they were naked. (Not sure how they were supposed to reproduce if they couldn't get arroused anyway, but that's not the point.)

Later god caused all kinds of problems for humans, by screwing up out langages, setting us back 1000 years with a flood, turning the animals against us, causing us to grow old, get sick, and die.

However Satan is trying to prove to god that humans can successfully rule themselves. But god won't allow that. Also Satan never attempted to take gods place, he wants humans to take care of themselves, without gods, or his help.

So while god wants humans to fail, satan would want nothing more than to see humans in a self ruled utopia. Free of god.

I just wanted to get you guys opinion on this.

LtCmd.Lore

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Interesting questions about evolution, created and the WTS.

by Santisimo in

isn't it possible that god created the universe to look old?.

think about it, when god created adam he was a full grown adult - not an infant.

he created eve as a full grown woman.. is it hard to believe that god could create a universe fully formed?

LtCmd.Lore

Well when I first read your post I was planning on responding with the "how do you know god didn't create everything 5 minutes ago" arguement but it was already taken... darn I like that one.

But you did say:

After all, if God made it too obvious that he created everything we wouldn't have much of a choice about worshipping him, right?

I disagree with this one, didn't Adam, Eve, Satan and all the demons KNOW that he created everything. Just because they are positive that he exists doesn't mean they lost their ability to choose. I know my parents exist, but I still don't have to do everything they say. The very concept of deliberately making it hard to tell if he exists or not, simply proves how desperate some people can get to hold to their old beliefs no matter what the evidence says.

Seriously, what do you think god want's from you? Is he some kind of all powerfull toddler who just wants to play peekaboo with you?

LtCmd.Lore

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What's in Watchtower Jan 1, 1989 page 12?

by pixel in

hello everybody,

i'm doing a big investigation of what's in watchtower jan 1, 1989 page 12. in the bound volume paragraph 8 they change an expression.

i would like to see a scan, please, if anyone has it, of the original published magazine.

LtCmd.Lore

Wow, that's interesting... I wonder what made them change their minds in only one year? Well, good, there is one obvious prophecy that has already been proven false. I'll have to keep this in mind.

Thanks again Jayhawk1.

LtCmd.Lore

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What's in Watchtower Jan 1, 1989 page 12?

by pixel in

hello everybody,

i'm doing a big investigation of what's in watchtower jan 1, 1989 page 12. in the bound volume paragraph 8 they change an expression.

i would like to see a scan, please, if anyone has it, of the original published magazine.

LtCmd.Lore

O.K thanks Jayhawk, you have a PM.

people are so darned helpfull on this board.

LtCmd.Lore

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Are you "Tidy" with your computer

by JH in

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do you have many different folders for different things, or just throw everything here and there.. do you also make cleanups in your favorites, or just let them add up?.

i just want to know if there is some kind of relationship between being tidy at home and tidy in your computer.....lol.

LtCmd.Lore

I'm very tidy with my computer... I have seperate folders for everything. I have a folder for audio, inside that folder is 4 other folders, 'vocal', 'instrumental', 'sounds' and 'other' inside each of those folders are several other folders organized by language, author, or source. I have seperate folders for ROMs, hacking tools, web page design utilities, pictures, animations, sprites, projects and all sorts of things. Everything is alphabetized and in it's own special folder.

My desk itself however is another story... I have 6 little cylinders from the inside of a 9 volt battery skattered across my desk. I have a broken CD rom in my shelf along with my non alphabetized and completely disarranged school books... my wires are in the way of everything and I have a ball of fuzz from my shirts the size of a golf ball right beside my keyboard, and I have coffee stains on my desk, because I sat a cup in front of the CD drive while burning a CD... it automatically ejected when done and SPLASH.

So I am, as a computer geek, very organized on the computer... but in the physical world. I am very messy.

LtCmd.Lore

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What's in Watchtower Jan 1, 1989 page 12?

by pixel in

hello everybody,

i'm doing a big investigation of what's in watchtower jan 1, 1989 page 12. in the bound volume paragraph 8 they change an expression.

i would like to see a scan, please, if anyone has it, of the original published magazine.

LtCmd.Lore

Could somebody please spell this out for me, I don't have the 89 bound volume, and the WT image is blocked by my school filter.

So could someone post what it originally said, and what it says now?

LtCmd.Lore