When you are 50, with children in their 20's, you will understand
lol, nah, I don't intend to have children.
ok, so you deny the existence of a god, or you lack belief in a god.
my question why do you get so angry over a mythical being?
no one gets as upset over the tooth fairy, santa claus or the easter bunny, as i have seen some of the atheists on this board get over the slightest mention of god.
When you are 50, with children in their 20's, you will understand
lol, nah, I don't intend to have children.
ok, so you deny the existence of a god, or you lack belief in a god.
my question why do you get so angry over a mythical being?
no one gets as upset over the tooth fairy, santa claus or the easter bunny, as i have seen some of the atheists on this board get over the slightest mention of god.
I must ask you, young man, have you ever PERSONALLY known anyone who lived under the tyranny of an atheist?I have, and too bad they are all dead. They would certainly set many people straight about the horrors of living under a system where atheism rules.
Am I the only one who remembers Adulfious' experience of watching a Muslim father slit the throat of his own daughter because she was raped by her uncle, and therefore sinned against god? http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/134290/2390768/post.ashx#2390768
Tyranny is bad period. But only religion can turn fathers against their own daughters in that way.
I'm not saying that living under a MAN-made, so called "Theocrocy", would be any better. Just for the record.
Then what are you getting at?
I don't know what you experienced, and frankly I don't care. Your prejudist is offensive. I'm suprised you had the audacity to make such hatefull remarks in a thread asking why atheists are angry.
There's your answer people, religion creates prejudist.
Comparing a bad atheist to a bad black man is an insult, not just to black people, but to all people.
And I dare say that you are guilty of: Inciting hatred on the basis of race, religion, gender, nationality or sexuality or other personal characteristic.
Why in the world would you ever want to join or investigate another religion after your JW experience? Why not meet Jesus yourself?
Why Jesus? Why no Allah? Or Vishnu? Or Zeus? Or Thor? Or Venus, At least she's hot, and having her picture on my mantle would be much more enjoyable than some guy on a cross. Plus, she's a goddess of love, so that's a pretty good standard to live by.
Edited to add: Oh, goodnight Perry.
ok, so you deny the existence of a god, or you lack belief in a god.
my question why do you get so angry over a mythical being?
no one gets as upset over the tooth fairy, santa claus or the easter bunny, as i have seen some of the atheists on this board get over the slightest mention of god.
Athiests would rather have YOU die for their belief a la Stalin.
No, I'd really rather you didn't. That's a horrible waste of a precious life.
As atheists we don't have a theology. So aside from the lack of belief in god, there is no universal atheist belief.
Using an example of a bad atheist to incite hatred against all atheists is like using an example of a bad black man to incite hatred against all black people.
I could take this opportunity to mention how horrible Hitler was and say that all theists think that way, but that would be pointless.
Stalin doesn't prove all atheists are bad.
Hitler doesn't prove all theists are bad.
You imagine believers struggle with this the same way you imagine that you accepted Christ as a Jehovah's Witness... even though you slapped him in the face every Memorial.
Well that's true, I guess theists always have cognitive dissonance to fall back on when things stop making sense.
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You forget that most of us atheists already were christians.If you are referring to Jehovah's Witnesses then you are sadly mistaken. JW's PUBLICALLY reject Jesus and disobey his commands EVERY MEMORIAL.
Oh I see.
I has to be YOUR brand of Christianity, well in that case I don't think there are "Millions of christians" who can testify to your supernatural claims, but only as many as you personally pick out.
And what about when your version doesn't work? Then I'd have to try hundreds of other versions of christianity. Then I guess I'm supposed to try Judiasm, then Mormonism, then Buddism, then Satanism, then Scientology, then Paganism, then Shamanism...
If I personally tried out each individual religion waiting for some kind of revelation, it'd take my entire life. Only to end up back at atheism once I fritted away my life. (Unless of course I ended up doing some fasting rituals, and then I'd be having all KINDS of hallucinations visions.)
EVERY religion claims to have some kind of 'Feeling' that they have it right. How do explain all the Muslims that feel the same way about their religion?
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The definition of quote: To repeat or copy the words of (another), usually with acknowledgment of the source.
Mentioning Jesus is in no way similar to quoting him.
So quit telling me I need reading glasses, I'm wearing contacts if you must know.
You also need shovels cause your arguments for all things from nothing has been BURIED DEEP.
Who needs reading glasses? I made no argument for all things from nothing, I said it's something that both sides have to struggle with.
All things from nothing is a real joke folks. That is the problem atheists have on their hands.
Vinney, both atheist AND theists have to deal with that.
It's just something that neither side has been able to tackle.
Whether the universe came from nothing, or the universe came from god who came from nothing it's still the same "All things from nothing", problem, just re-arranged.
sorry if i that is the wrong spelling.
i just want to say that i used to be judgemental of athiests, but as a jw backer everyone on here finds nothing but wrong doing with the orginizations.
well i am sure i can find wrong doing with other churches and their teachings as well.
NO arguments explaining how life arises from nothing.
We already have an 8 page discussion on abiogenesis. Check your post history.
NO arguments dealing red vette in the wilderness.
We already pointed out that because it's not made from biological tissue, it can't reproduce, and it's a machine that couldn't support itself even if it did apear naturally, it doesn't apply. Why would we deal with something that everyone but you agrees is not applicable.
NO arguments dealing with science failing to create life from lifeless in controlled settings.
http://www.evilbible.com/Synthetic_Life.htm
NO arguments dealing with science cannot even PUT LIFE BACK where it life once was hours before.
That would require reactivating each individual cell in a body. And since religous people are the only ones who claim that's even possible I dunno why you expect it of us... basically I'm saying, you first, or god first.
NO arguments dealing with the universal "every beginning has a cause" fact of life.
Well some scienists believe that the universe didn't have a beggining, and I don't know why that's not acceptable to you, since you belive that about god. But saying, "I dunno, but we're working on it" is much better than ignoring it like you do.
NO arguments explaining how big BANG results in orderly, intricate, powerful universe; a spinning, orbiting earth with atmosphere, water, ozone etc, with moon practically attached; and life all throughout that earth.
We also covered that in the other thread.
1: big bang explodes, spewing clouds of debris.
2: over a long period of time thicker parts of this cloud are drawn together by gravity and form spheres, stars, black holes, planets, asteriods etc.
3: Tada, you have a universe with over 70 sextillion stars. That's 70 sextillion solar systems which can contain multiple planets. (Note, this does not produce an orderly universe, it produces one in which planets, stars and even entire galaxies slam into each other. If you happen to observe an orderly universe please let me know.)
4: At least one of those 70,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 stars has a planet orbiting it that is capable of supporting some form of life. And that spins... lots of planets spin so I'm not sure why you mentioned that, but whatever. At least you didn't mention gravity as a qualifier this time.
5: That planet has an atmosphere but it's drastically different than the one we have now, after plants evolve and can produce oxygen, you have a different atmosphere.
6: Ozone forms naturally from water molocules seperating due to the ultraviolet radiation from the nearby star.
I'm still waiting for you to pick out your most convincing prophecy.
(Flying purple monkey.)
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Vinny, nobody quoted jesus at you in this thread... I think you're little confused.
I you HAVE to copy and paste your responses on two different threads, at least edit them so that they don't look like you're imagining things.