The 15 minute rule has to be "approved" by the elders. This rule is set up for the elderly and infirmed. From what I see, due to diminishing #'s on the yearly report, this is a sad attempt to get the numbers up.
DazedAndConfused
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New BOE letters every day!
by Kent infrom today there will be a new boe letter posted every day on the watchtower observer.. on http://kent.steinhaug.com/boe these letters will be downloadable as pdf documents, and every day i'm at home a new letter will be posted.
i will keep on doing this for more than a year, so keep yourself updated.. .
kent
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"You can't use both ends of the stick"
by DazedAndConfused ini am so frustrated.
on one hand i want my parents "out of the truth" and then on the other hand...i wonder if it were to really harm them if they stayed.. i know that for me...to be out is the best thing to ever happen to me.
i have talked to my parents, devout jw's...mom is an ex-pioneer (disabled now) and dad is a ms (pushing for eldership).
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I am so frustrated. I don't know what to do/feel/think. On one hand I want my parents "out of the truth" and then on the other hand...I wonder if it were to really harm them if they stayed.
I know that for me...to be out is the best thing to ever happen to me. But...???
I have talked to my parents, devout JW's...mom is an ex-pioneer (disabled now) and dad is a MS (pushing for Eldership).
For years I have tried to reason with them. To no avail...lik that is a surprise to anyone.
I was disfellowshipped...this did not add to my crdibility with them. But recently I am reinstated and I would have thought that they listened to me a bit more than they did before. Considering that they come and stay in my home now for District Assemblies.
This time that they were here...I tried pushed...under duress...regarding the Dateline story and numberous other doctrines. I tried very hard not to approach any of the subjects that bothered me but my mom seemed to push a bit more than I did. It seems that the more I push the closer mom gets to the Org. and (possibly?) the farther dad gets from it.
It came down to...me asking..."How can the Society, on one hand state that they are "spirit directed by God"...yet claim to be imperfect humans so we must understand the indescrepencies. I was talking to "mom" at this point, she did not understand how I felt...so I turned to my (soon to be Elder father) and said..."The Society claims on one hand to say they are spirit directed by God and yet then claim to be imperfect humans with imperfect problems. I don't see how they can claim both ends of the stick. Do you understand what I am saying?" He said "Yes, to an extent I do." He did not clarify further...but I think I am getting somewhere with him. For my mom, I think I am pushing her closer to this cult.
How do I balance all of this?
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Mickey Spillane
by Kenneson ini remember a number of years ago when mickey spillane left the jws and returned to book writing.
does anyone know his current status?
i don't hear anything about him today.
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DazedAndConfused
I have nothing to back this up as fact, but I thought I had heard that Mickey died in the late 90's.
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DazedAndConfused
tinman72, contact me. It appears (if the years are right) that we know each other. [email protected]
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SUICIDE IN KH PARKING LOT
by Sabine inlast saturday, a former ministerial servant and pioneer committed suicide in the woodinville washington kingdom hall parking lot.
he was disfellowshipped several years ago, and according to the old sister that related the story to me today, he was depressed because no one would talk to him.
i don't know how i kept calm when she explained to me that "we couldn't talk to him...he was disfellowshipped.".
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At this point I don't think that most of us know the name of the sister whose son committed suicide, so therefore we cannot, at this point, send a card directly to her.
What I am proposing, since he was very plain in his actions that he wanted the elders there to realise the pain they inflicted, is that we send cards to the mother via the KH.
Maybe we can send them under "Grieving Mom" or maybe something better can be suggested, right to the KH.
Here is the information I got on this hall:
Woodinville Jehovahs Witnesses
22101 Bostian Rd,Woodinville,WA 98072
Phone: (425) 488-5967I cannot comment anymore. Too many emotions at this time...but I feel that this mom needs support. Since she IS a JW I think we need to keep that in mind and not lambast her with our views...just send (annonymously) our sincere heartfelt regret that this happened.
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District Conv. Releases?
by NeonMadman ini've seen several rumors and advance mention of the convention releases for 2002, but if there was a post that laid it out clearly, i must have overlooked it (not hard to do, given the speed with which threads get buried around here).
can someone give me the exact details?
are there 2 books or only one?
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DazedAndConfused
They gave out another lame paperback called:
Draw Close To Jehovah
And a pamphlet called:
Youths -What Will You Do With Your Life?
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JW's the best looking people ever?
by terafera ina sister that studied with me once told me that if you look in the halls, you will see some of the most best looking people on earth.
she said that sisters are far prettier than worldly people because they keep themselves so 'pure' and brothers were much manlier because they knew how to 'protect women and take the lead'.
i dont know about that!
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The pictures came from * http://www.fugly.net
If you want to see where pictures are taken from you right click on the picture, and a box comes up. At the bottom is "Properties". Click on that and it gives the address for where the pictures were taken from.
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hehe, tinman...he typed "mormon". Were you from Ogdensburg (sp)?
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huh?????
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PUT AWAY YOUR MICROSCOPE
by DazedAndConfused ini admit...i went to a session at the assembly.
my parents were at my house, and i felt obligated to go for at least one session.
anyway, what totally appalled me was what was said in one of the talks.
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I admit...I went to a session at the assembly. My parents were at my house, and I felt obligated to go for at least one session.
Anyway, what totally appalled me was what was said in one of the talks. It started out talking about things that are said outside of the confines of the society. It talked about the media (Dateline, without saying it) and the propaganda on the internet. The speaker went on to state that if we were to put under a microsope a piece of glass (ie. a knick knack) we would find many cracks. But just because we would find cracks does not mean that the knick knack was worthless......then put the microscope down.
HELLO!!! It is true...to put many things under the microscope...we would be appalled. But to state that we should put the microscope away as far as our Biblical beliefs is appalling...(at least to me).
I have lived so many years hearing the society bashing other religions for their stance (on anything). I am not about to accept that we should put our microscopes away when it comes to "the truth".
These people are sick mind controllers at it's best.
Edited by - DazedAndConfused on 10 June 2002 19:54:31