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  Theory about all the warnings about apostate material

  by baltar447 in

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  there are alot of younger gb memebers now, and with that i think it's possible that many of them just plain don't know anymore history than what's in the proclaimers book.

  there has to be a few that kinda have an idea what happened when ones were removed in the 70s, but do they really know what's in the old literature?

  or what really happened during rutherford's hostile takeover?

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  There are alot of younger GB memebers now, and with that I think it's possible that many of them just plain don't know anymore history than what's in the Proclaimers book. There has to be a few that kinda have an idea what happened when ones were removed in the 70s, but do they REALLY know what's in the old literature? Or what really happened during Rutherford's hostile takeover? Or stumbled upon some old packets of miracle wheat? Is it possible that many of them are just ignorant?
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  Beware of things to come!

  by Hortenzie in

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  this is an excerpt from awake!

  march 2011 page 22. it's an experience of jw who used to be a real shepherd and he is talking here about real sheep.

  why is it reminding me of something and why does it give me shivers?:.

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  I just did some research on sheep herding and NO WHERE did I see this technique described as one to use on a stubborn sheep. Breaking a stubborn sheep's leg and resetting it was one technique to teach a sheep to depend on then follow the shepherd's direction. Can anyone that knows something about sheep herding comment on this?
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  Beware of things to come!

  by Hortenzie in

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  this is an excerpt from awake!

  march 2011 page 22. it's an experience of jw who used to be a real shepherd and he is talking here about real sheep.

  why is it reminding me of something and why does it give me shivers?:.

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  Wow, the middle of that paragraph doesn't even fit the rest. The other ones he's all speaking from experiences with him and his uncle. This part talks about "the shepherd" in the third person. I think they added to this paragraph.
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  What made this so controversial?

  by iamwhoiam in

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  what was so controversial about this that it was left out of more than one manuscript?.

  this is taken from john 8:1-11 of the nwt.

  * manuscripts ?bsys omit verses 53 to chapter 8, verse 11, which read (with some variations in the various greek texts and versions) as follows:.

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  This is agreed by almost every scholar to be a spurious scripture. Read Bart Ehrman, he references this and others.
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  No Tape Recorders at Elder Schools? WTS Hanging Elders Out to Dry

  by skeeter1 in

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  elders are not allowed to bring tape recorders to elder school or elders-only type meetings.

  elders can only take hand notes, usually inside the wide margins inside the elder's book.

  i think the watch tower society is hanging the elders out to dry.. 1) being an elder is an important job, let's face it.

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  daringhart13, now if recordings WERE allowed, can you imagine if that little tidbit got out?
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  A letter about blood fractions from the WT Society

  by ldrnomo in

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  2. medical

  about 4 years ago i sent a letter to the watchtower society asking them why taking blood fractions was a conscience matter and taking components of blood was a removal matter.. if i can figure out how to post the pdf of their reply i will post it here.

  i was removed as an elder soon after receiving their letter the co we had at the time had a copy of my letter to them and also the letter they sent to me.

  any suggestions on how i can post the letter would be appreciated.. .

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  Were you removed as an elder for sending in the letter?
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  Special Assembly: CO admits the grip is tightning.....

  by yourmomma in

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  what im about to post is the exact words from the co during the last talk of the most recent special assembly day.

  even though im out i still try to keep up with what is being said just cause i find it interesting, and alot of stuff i find funny, but this stuff is starting to get scary, and i fear for my friends who are still in.

  here are the exact words:.

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  itsacult, they only have baptism on the saturday am session. All other times that's designated seating for the elderly.
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  Special Assembly: CO admits the grip is tightning.....

  by yourmomma in

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  what im about to post is the exact words from the co during the last talk of the most recent special assembly day.

  even though im out i still try to keep up with what is being said just cause i find it interesting, and alot of stuff i find funny, but this stuff is starting to get scary, and i fear for my friends who are still in.

  here are the exact words:.

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  moshe, I really don't think that's a saturday morning, because all other sessions those areas are for elderly.
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  Splane's take on David and Bathsheba-(Obey Borg)

  by Sayswho in

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  So I guess we're supposed to supress our God-given sense of Justice? Something definately smells. God's law given to Isreal put heavy judgement upon those that dealt poorly with widows and orphans. Should we think he'd feel much different about not giving justice to victims of child molestation?
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  Splane's take on David and Bathsheba-(Obey Borg)

  by Sayswho in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

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  Wow. Who has the problem with pride? They just can't possibly be wrong, even when they are!