Exonerated...no
Inebriated...yes
hehehe
one of the cornerstones of the watchtower society's claims about the 1918 trial of joseph f. rutherford and seven other co-defendants, is that the trial was a travesty of justice, where the defendants were railroaded off to prison.. to make their point, the society has repeatedly stated that joseph rutherford and his fellow defendants were "exonerated" of all charges, and subsequently released from prison fully vindicated.
the society also attributed this 'victory' to jehovah's hand in matters, restoring the symbolic 'two witnesses' spoken of in revelation, and thereby, reactivating the kingdom preaching work.. what actually transpired is that the convicted defendants filed a petition for a "writ of error.
" (trial transcript, pages 1-10, parts 1-30 ) the writ of error was allowed by the trial court, judge howe, and granted by the district court judge chatfield, whom the society earlier objected to and had removed from their trial, because they felt he would not be fair to them.. what does this mean?
Exonerated...no
Inebriated...yes
hehehe
anyone on this board ever known a freemason?
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and can i possibly get some info on the freemasons please.
I used to work at an engraving shop. We had a customer come in occasionally who was some sort of high priest in the freemason org. He drove this impossibly clean purple Cadillac. It never had a spot on it. I think he washed and waxed it every day. He was one of the strangest men I've ever known.
just wondering about how many here feel they are fighters against the organisation of jehovahs witnesses, and how many consider themselves just recovering from the experience?.
i would say i am a fighter, that is i am against the org not just upset at what has happened to me.. how about you?
still in recovery mode, only da'd 2 months ago - but my family and workmates sure have gotten an earful. I feel sorry for the next J-dub that comes-a-knockin' at my mom's door - she had kind of resigned herself to my being one of them, and was trying to see positives in it, but now that I've left and have told her the truth about the troof, she's even more upset about it than I am (you have to know my mom - she feels your pain more than you do).
Last week my boss expressed admiration at how the JW's will go door-to-door even in the worst neighborhoods. *Sigh* I wish she knew what it was really about, but I don't want to overstate my case to her, that could serve to feed curiosity she may have.
THE Jehovah's Witnesses are a cult - I kind of like adding the "the" - thanks Reborn
this was written in 1946. the organized lying practiced by totalitarian states is not, as is sometimes claimed, a temporary expedient of the same nature as military deception.
it is something integral to totalitarianism, something that would still continue even if concentration camps and secret police forces had ceased to be necessary.
among intelligent communists there is an underground legend to the effect that although the russian government is obliged now to deal in lying propaganda, frame-up trials, and so forth, it is secretly recording the true facts and will publish them at some future time.
This book catalogues doctrinal shifting in the Communist movement
during the 1930s, the cause of doctrinal shift is always the same thing, reality conflicting with predictions.
spooky!
i want to add a signature to my profile.
i would like it to be the same size font as in the "quote" format, and i would like to make it blue or green or something.
danke schoen
i want to add a signature to my profile.
i would like it to be the same size font as in the "quote" format, and i would like to make it blue or green or something.
danke schoen
Hi all,
I want to add a signature to my profile. I would like it to be the same size font as in the "quote" format, and I would like to make it blue or green or something. How do I?
Danke Schoen
viewing the tennesseans article today "disfellowship described as being 'worse then death'" one of my co-workers asked if this was true.. i told him that many have viewed it that way in different aspects.
some have been driven to suicide because of not knowing how to deal with the prospect of being df'd.
they are cut off from their family, and the only people they have really been allowed to associate with as friends.. this brought out a question from my husband on the way home from work tonight: "are jehovah's witnesses really a happy group of people?".
The first time I went to a KH, I was blown away by how everyone was standing around talking and laughing and seemingly as happy as could be. Same with the first convention I attended.
It is only when you've been in for a bit that you realize the happiness is not real. But they blame that on Satan like they do everything else. Half the congos are on prozac anymore.
im not sure if this has been discussed before but id be interested to read some comments from those who became jws later in life.
what caught your attention and sucked you in?.
my parents became jws when i was 5 years old, so it was pretty much the only way of life that i knew.
I don't think my story varies that much from a lot of the others here. I was biblically illiterate, from a dysfunctional family, full of anxiety and low self-esteem, in desperate need of certainty.
The love-bombing was key for me. All the instant friends was intoxicating, as was having an answer for everything and not having to think on my own anymore. Totalism is very seductive to a confused, lonely 22 year old.
Still reeling from the experience.
i've met a few in the area, but i thought i'd post to see if there are more -
Aunty: I was in for 9 years, 1993-2002. I don't think I knew too many from Delaware.
Michelle: I wish I could move to Cincy, but with the new house and all...
*** awake!
1975 august 22 p.25 *** .
is the turning of people from the clergy to the psychiatrists a healthy phenomenon?
Matty:
Sounds like you and I have some things in common. I was fairly happy as a kid, but my teenage years were horrible, and when I was 22 years old, I was in no way prepared to face life as an adult, I was a babe in the woods. The WT was a powerful drug that I desparately needed at the time. In some ways, I'm grateful for the WT. It gave me what I needed at the time. At the same time, I had no idea what I was really getting into, and how much pain it would eventually cause. I've been reading a book called "Addiction and Grace" - I highly recommend it to any recovering ex-jw. Addiction goes far beyond the realm of chemicals.