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  At what point were you taught about disfellowshipping? What page in the current study book is it covered?

  by jambon1 in

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  even thinking about born-ins here.

  at what stage of your 'bible teaching' were you taught about the practice of disfellowshipping?.

  reading john cedars book and the section about when the more crazy shit gets introduced to you is very telling.

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  Even thinking about born-ins here. At what stage of your 'bible teaching' were you taught about the practice of disfellowshipping?

  Reading John Cedars book and the section about when the more crazy shit gets introduced to you is very telling. The theory is that you will be taught all the nice panda/paradise/resurrection stuff first and THEN after a long period of initial teaching, you will receive the more extreme doctrines.

  Having thought about this over the years, it completely resonates. I recall it being very late in the day that I was taught about shunning. Even then, I didn't in any way understand just how cruel it actually is because the way it's taught to a 'bible student' is so soft soaped and watered down. Almost skimmed over.

  So, how about you? And at what point is the doctrine of disfellowshipping introduced in the current JW bible study publication? Is there any material about the practice of shunning on jw.org?

  Any input is very much appreciated.
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  Any atheists here? Have you come to terms with your new reality?

  by kpop in

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  alone, without my safety net of "god" being there to remember me when i die.

  after much consideration, examining science, history and using logic, i have come to the conclusion that there is no "god" at least certainly no loving, personal "god.

  " shortly before my final conclusion was reached, i read an excerpt from an expression attributed to marcus aurelius, .

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  Why does one have to exist with any belief?

  I believe in what I am sure of. This enables me to try to do things that bring positive results for me and those I know & wider society. I'm not throwing my hands in the air and expecting or waiting for someone else to affect my life for the better. It comes down to me.

  Belief in the JW god disempowers a person.
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  I Saw 2 JWs Doing Nothing With Their Cart Today

  by minimus in

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  my girlfriend and i were walking along a seaside boulevard and lo and behold!

  2 jws were standing by the pathway.

  they made eye contact and said hello.

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  It must be great not to have to go to peoples doors and explain their bat shit crazy, out of touch beliefs.
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  I Have A Question About A Dog

  by minimus in

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  i would like to have your opinion on something if you don't mind.

  my girlfriends dog, a scottish terrier, is a wonderful lovable dog about fiveyears old.

  my girlfriend owns a hair salon and takes her dog with her and the dog greets clients very lovingly.

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  If it's a Scottish terrier, it's pronounced 'dug'

  
  
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  God answers JW prayers about trivialities while ignoring the abuse of little children

  by jambon1 in

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  i've heard many experiences about how jehovah answers the prayers of jw's - convention items about pioneers gas bills, car repairs, job opportunities.

  now, if this is true, you are actually stating that god has directly intervened in your life.

  taken action on your behalf.

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  JW's will readily tell you that people without faith are egotistical and selfish but how much more egocentric and self centred is it to claim that the creator of the universe is intervening in your daily life.

  Similar to prayers at meal times - "thank you for providing this food especially considering you've left millions in dire poverty".

  Crazy logic.
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  God answers JW prayers about trivialities while ignoring the abuse of little children

  by jambon1 in

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  i've heard many experiences about how jehovah answers the prayers of jw's - convention items about pioneers gas bills, car repairs, job opportunities.

  now, if this is true, you are actually stating that god has directly intervened in your life.

  taken action on your behalf.

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  I've heard many experiences about how Jehovah answers the prayers of JW's - convention items about pioneers gas bills, car repairs, job opportunities.

  Now, if this is true, you are actually stating that god has directly intervened in your life. Taken action on your behalf.

  At the same time, he ignores the desperate prayers of abused children the world over for their abuse to stop.

  How can you imply this and expect people to take you seriously?

  
  
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  Cart Witnessing On Their Wedding Day

  by pale.emperor in

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  this photo is doing the rounds on jw inspirational on instagram.

  although the brothers and sisters think this is "oh so amazing" and "so cool" it's actually very sad and quite shocking.

  what, people cant even enjoy their wedding day without the cult invading their special day.

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  Crazy bastards.
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  Making life and death/life altering decisions based on commands from someone you're not sure exists

  by jambon1 in

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  straight from the off, i will say that i'm 100% atheist.

  i have no faith.

  however, it occurred to me while thinking back over my involvement with the jw religion and especially when i take into account personal and family situations where people have made life altering choices due to being jw's, just how crazy it really is.

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  Yes new boy, they will.

  But that's a persons prerogative based presumably on reality.

  God is invisible. He probably doesn't exist.

  Making life or death decisions based on an invisible non reality is beyond crazy in my opinion.
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  2017 Circuit Assembly: Lesbians at school demonstration

  by darkspilver in

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  steve2: is there some way this can be presented so that it is crystal clear what was actually in the demonstrations and what was added?

  i guess some will think it should be obvious - but this is where misunderstandings arise because we end up wrongly attributing something to jw organization that was never said.. circuit assembly theme: maintain love for jehovah!.

  note to speaker: warmly encourage young ones to prove their friendship with jehovah by observing his commandments and defending his standards.

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  Likening it to smoking cigarettes.

  I thought they counselled on 'illustrations being appropriate to the material'

  What a big pile of horse shit.
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  2017 Circuit Assembly: Lesbians at school demonstration

  by darkspilver in

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  steve2: is there some way this can be presented so that it is crystal clear what was actually in the demonstrations and what was added?

  i guess some will think it should be obvious - but this is where misunderstandings arise because we end up wrongly attributing something to jw organization that was never said.. circuit assembly theme: maintain love for jehovah!.

  note to speaker: warmly encourage young ones to prove their friendship with jehovah by observing his commandments and defending his standards.

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  "I've made a lifestyle choice to reject homosexuality"

  Interesting that she's made this 'lifestyle choice' without obviously being a homosexual herself.

  Unbelievable.

  I wonder if it's so easy for a homosexual to make this 'lifestyle choice'.

  Crass, inconsiderate, bigoted bastards.