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  Thanks for your support JWN!!! Dad dies monday, JW family goes to convention on thursday

  by Coffee House Girl in

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  coffee shop guy directed me to his thread...thank you so much everyone for your thoughts of support, it means a lot to have people who understand and show genuine sympathy.

  here's my experience so far.... my father dies monday night & my brother (nonjw) calls me to come home, when i arrive my father is still sitting on the couch- all the jw family is sitting in a semi-circle around him, my non jw brother is standing in the next room.

  no one is crying, no one is talking.

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  Sorry for your loss. You remembered your dad in a lovely, sincere way.

  JW's can even turn the death of a person into the most inhuman circumstance.

  Cold, heartless.
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  There is no social programme in exsistance that recommends shunning as a means of rehabilitation

  by jambon1 in

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  can someone tell the wts/jw's how utterly counter productive & cruel shunning is?.

  apart from serious crimes where a person might conscientiously have nothing to do with a friend/relative, people who are struggling with any kind of issues generally need love, support & kindness.. shunning is unnecessary, evil & humiliating.. does the punishment really fit the crime?

  someone caves into the 'sins of the flesh' so they are cut off from all human contact with everyone they know?.

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  Can someone tell the WTS/JW's how utterly counter productive & cruel shunning is?

  Apart from serious crimes where a person might conscientiously have nothing to do with a friend/relative, people who are struggling with any kind of issues generally need love, support & kindness.

  Shunning is unnecessary, evil & humiliating.

  Does the punishment really fit the crime? Someone caves into the 'sins of the flesh' so they are cut off from all human contact with everyone they know?

  And don't give me the excuses about the supposed idea that it's only those who aren't repentant. Do me a favour! We all know that is absolute horse shit.

  Anyone who supports shunning as a form of dicipline or rehabilitation is kidding themselves on big time.

  It is evil & those who carry it out are fulfilling scripture for all the wrong reasons.

  Shame on them.
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  Elders who conduct judicial comittees are creepy & perverted

  by jambon1 in

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  why can't people in jw congregations see just how utterly creepy this whole arrangement is?.

  a girl about 20 years old commits an indescretion of a sexual nature.

  three middle aged/old men 'interview' her in a room.

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  Wow. My sympathys go to you.

  I never realised that the elders actually JC people who have been raped.

  Sometimes I can still be surprised by them.

  Shocking.
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  Elders who conduct judicial comittees are creepy & perverted

  by jambon1 in

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  why can't people in jw congregations see just how utterly creepy this whole arrangement is?.

  a girl about 20 years old commits an indescretion of a sexual nature.

  three middle aged/old men 'interview' her in a room.

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  Quite.

  The other facet of all of this is that if a person is truely sorry before god then why the need to explain your indescretion to men?
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  Elders who conduct judicial comittees are creepy & perverted

  by jambon1 in

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  why can't people in jw congregations see just how utterly creepy this whole arrangement is?.

  a girl about 20 years old commits an indescretion of a sexual nature.

  three middle aged/old men 'interview' her in a room.

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  Why can't people in JW congregations see just how utterly creepy this whole arrangement is?

  A girl about 20 years old commits an indescretion of a sexual nature. Three middle aged/old men 'interview' her in a room. All alone. Asking the details of said indescretion.

  I mean, what is the crime here? The girls fornication or the fact that three old men want to sit and listen to all the details of it?

  I have heard that in some cases elders have been extreemly rude & have asked very personal questions.

  Why don't JW's see how perverted this is?

  How can any decent parent allow their child to be put through this?
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  JW's who remain in the organisation but try to reform it - pissing against the wind

  by jambon1 in

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  i came across a website that presents decent argumentation against three main areas of jw doctrine.. http://jwreform.org/index.html.

  who do these people think they are?

  do they really believe that the wts will sit up and take notice of their objections?

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  I came across a website that presents decent argumentation against three main areas of JW doctrine.

  http://jwreform.org/index.html

  Who do these people think they are? Do they really believe that the WTS will sit up and take notice of their objections? Do they really imagine that the arrogant & stubborn members of the governing body will consider their petitions and effect change within the organisation?

  As long as I have known this religion they have year by year tightened their grip of control over peoples lives. Even despite getting rid of one of the weekly meetings, the language used in WT publications gets more and more frighteningly controlling.

  How can any single JW feel that the GB might one day relinquish control in areas like thought control & disfellowshiping?

  I'd be interested to know if there has been any dialogue between the two parties other than "you're disfellowshiped."

  Thoughts?
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  2011-2012 DC Brochure(s) "Listen to God" PDF

  by yknot in

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  anonymous brother does it again!

  (huge round of applause!!!

  (regular) http://www.sendspace.com/file/nzjme3.

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  Wow. Eve is stunning there.

  The look on her face as she takes it in her mouth..........
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  Did the Society speaking on your behalf bother you?

  by donny in

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  cult classic on a thread about funeral talks commented "i would always find myself thinking "how the hell do you know what ____ believed?

  i can relate to that feeling.

  i remember attending the bonham, texas special talk that was given at the new hall that had just been built (the old one was given to the congregation that had apostasized) and later there was a brief blurb in the kindom ministry that said "all in attendance were deeply touched at the stirring discourse delivered by brother albert schroeder of brooklyn.

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  Slightly different but I hated somehow feeling responsible for the comments/actions of JW's who were say paedophiles etc.

  I somehow felt like I shared their guilt.

  The sooner I realised most JW's were f***ing fruitloops & left made me feel much more of an individual. I didn't have to dread reading the newpaper to find an article about the blood issue or a deviant paedophile, as if their actions somehow reflected on me.
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  Jehovahs Witness comments on university ten years ago - how they apply now

  by jambon1 in

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  the comments were made by a militant jw pioneer/elder/ms training school, kind of ass hole.. at the time i was on the ministry with him.

  as we walked by a swathe of students heading into university for the day he turned to me & said "look at them all!

  each one on the road of futility".

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  The comments were made by a militant JW pioneer/elder/ms training school, kind of ass hole.

  At the time I was on the ministry with him. As we walked by a swathe of students heading into university for the day he turned to me & said "look at them all! Each one on the road of futility"

  I wasn't particularly keen on the comments. I wasn't that sort of JW.

  The other day I drove past the same area & this idiots comments came to mind.

  But think about it:

  All those students will have graduated years ago. Some will be doctors, surgeons, lawyers, nurses etc.......

  If JW asshole gets ill, he'd expect to be treated by the very same sort of people he slagged off for 'pursuing futility'. It's crazy when you stop & think about it, isn't it? How does asshole elder feel aout needing the assistance of a highly skillled & trained individual in his hour of need? If he were seriously ill, he would be crying out for someone in that position. Weeping like a baby for them to call on their expertise to take away the pain and make him better. It's just common sense is it not? The world we live in needs university graduates. It's as simple as that.

  And that, my friends, in a nutshell, is why the Jehovah's Witnesses view of going to university is an absolute pile of stinking shit!
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  Westboro Church Update on BBC

  by cofty in

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  right now there is a documentary on the bbc about louis theroux' second visit to the infamous phelps family.

  it's a follow up to a similar documentary four years ago.. a considerable number of members have left in the last few years while the cult has become even more extreme.

  louis has just interviewed young woman who has got out and started nursing.

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  What can you say to that?

  I watched the first one with my wife. I got the feeling that she was most uncomfortable watching it.

  There is a good reason for that - they are strikingly like JW's, albeit more militant.