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  How I felt when I left the truth..........

  by fifi40 in

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  2. experiences

  after my disfellowshipping, i felt like a person alone in a very dark room full of strange objects..........someone grappling around in pitch black wary of everything i touched.

  i didnt want involvment with another religion..........my thinking was that the jehovah's witnesses were right despite my having put myself in the position where i was no longer acceptable to them.

  other religions had no draw for me, and to this day, i still remain indifferent to them.. and yet, i missed the comfort that i had experienced as a witness..............the hope, the so called 'answers and the feeling of belonging to a community of like minded people.. occasionally i have dabbled with other forms of 'answers'..............reading my stars, doing tarot, a mystic meg approach to the answers of life.

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  Looks like I have had a SINIS attack.

  Brant
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  How I felt when I left the truth..........

  by fifi40 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  after my disfellowshipping, i felt like a person alone in a very dark room full of strange objects..........someone grappling around in pitch black wary of everything i touched.

  i didnt want involvment with another religion..........my thinking was that the jehovah's witnesses were right despite my having put myself in the position where i was no longer acceptable to them.

  other religions had no draw for me, and to this day, i still remain indifferent to them.. and yet, i missed the comfort that i had experienced as a witness..............the hope, the so called 'answers and the feeling of belonging to a community of like minded people.. occasionally i have dabbled with other forms of 'answers'..............reading my stars, doing tarot, a mystic meg approach to the answers of life.

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  Fifi,

  I agree that it is a difficult step, when you are invested in such a religion as the witnesses. I think it is especially difficult to recover if you think you have "morally failed" to live up to a certain way of life, and then are disfellowshipped.

  Don't forget though that the blood of Christ is there for all of us, and he did come to save 'sinners' not righteous persons. So, cheer up. Remember Manasseh, the King of Israel? He even put his own infant son to death to Baal, and Jehovah forgave him. David didn't do so hot, and he is called "a man after God's own heart". And the list goes on and on.

  Try to break the habit of calling it the "Truth". It isn't the truth as taught in the Bible and it would help you to make your break if you could really accept how wicked a religious system it really is.

  I did enjoy the following comment that I put in red: (very profound thought)

  Ever see the movie City Slickers? You know what that "one thing" is? Its WHATEVER makes you happy! Is there an afterlife? I don't know, I don't think anyone does. However, did you worry about a "before life" before you were born? Chances are no. So why worry about an afterlife after you are dead. If there is nothing than you won't have much to worry about. Which brings us back to that "one thing". Do whatever you want in life and want to achieve, apply the golden rule, especially in treating others how you want to be treated, and life has a marvelous way of doing the rest...

  I personally would not mess with any form of spiritism, but we are all liberated to do what we want. Just be careful. Try to figure out a way or a formula that will help you live a good happy life and trust in Jehovah. I am working to do the same, but it is difficult.

  Good luck,

  Brant
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  This forum using same type of thinking as Jehovahs Witnesses?

  by AirDuster in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i notice one of the biggest complaints around here about the organization is often related to their constant use of the "us versus them" mentality, (i.e.

  "we" need to be seperate from "them" because "they" are wrong and "we" are right).

  yet i also notice that many of the posters here use the exact same kind of rhetoric and thinking.

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  Airduster,

  Welcome. Your comments are thoughtful and I admire where you are coming from. However, I have to agree with 144,001 that this forum is not your basic "feel good" place. There are a lot of other sites that may suit your needs better.

  Paradise Cafe

  E-Watchman

  I'm sure there are other.

  This group is a very diverse group that would be impossible to direct in a certain manner or tone toward anything. There are a lot of people in this forum that do exactly like you like. There are a lot of others that would like to execute the leaders of JW's and be done with it.

  I have from time to time, left here, and went to other places, because the discussions get "out of hand" by my own standards. BUT, I always seem to come back because of the massive number of what I consider super-intelligent people that post here.

  Sometimes, I can't believe the resources that these people have. As a result, it is my favorite site to visit, but, to a wandering publisher of JW's it probably wouldn't be the best place to come first.

  Hope you stay, but it is a tough place, and worth the effort.

  Brant
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  Judge Rutherford's Cadillac in Awake magazine

  by homesoulwt in

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  2. friends

  i don't know the date but it must be in the jan issues of the awake magazine between 1999-2004. it mentioned the subject of automobiles and it had a photo of a 16 cylendar cadillac and the man next to is no other than judge rutherford himself.

  has anyone seen that article?

  hope for your replies.

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  faithful and discreet master?

  faithless indiscreet master?
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  RAY FRANZ--You Are Appreciated Very Much!!!

  by minimus in

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  2. friends

  after coming home to read what has happened today on this board, i would just like to say that no matter what differences anyone has ever had with ray franz, i, for one appreciate what he has done for me.

  ray has helped more people to look at their spirituality over the last 2 decades.

  he is not perfect, but he has been a voice of reason and a man of integrity.

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  I think it is small minded to think that it is wrong, brown nosing or setting RF up as a GOD to show him respect and honor for what he has done for all of us.

  Most of us have sacrificed a lot in order to have left the Organization. I personally lost a 45 year history of so-called 'friends'. I have a son that won't visit or communicate, so I feel our sacrifices have been substantial.

  HOWEVER, none of us had ever acheived the level of influence and worshipful adoration that Ray Franz had reached, and then, he just turned his back on it!

  He has done nothing for personal aggrandizement, and hasn't ruined his life with hate. He is a pretty good example of a Christian follower of Christ, in my opinion.

  Most of us have been better because of him.

  Happy Birthday.

  Brant
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  Crazy in Dallas Pics... A little at a time...

  by Sparkplug in

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  p2 or pleaser2000.

  we have p2, with my kids, myself and arrowstar to start!.

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  Looks like you guys had a wonderful time.

  I wish Karen and I could have been there with you. Would have been nice to meet all of you.

  Great photos.

  Brant
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  ALERT: All Child Abuse Lawsuits have been settled. Millions cashed out???

  by What-A-Coincidence in

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  2. child-abuse

  re: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/8/116108/1.ashx.

  a bethel insider in the know told me that all of the child abuse lawsuits where the watchtower bible and tract society was one of the defendants were settled back in the beginning of this year.

  i questioned it and called napa myself and they were absolutely settled back then.

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  I have really enjoyed the comments on this thread.

  I have a question though. Does anyone know how many of the Plaintiffs had been disfellowshipped? It would be interesting to me to know that number.

  Brant
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  JW'S neither Catholic nor Protestant? WHAT, THEN?

  by Terry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the main split in christianity (between catholics and protestants) is the issue of who tells you what to do and how they tell you.

  the catholic church has staked out the "chain of evidence" theory which is sacred tradition.

  the church has all authority in faith and morals.. protestants (since martin luther) cling to the assertion that the bible alone can give instruction directly, or; sola scriptura.

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  We were very special, half-Jewish, half-assed Christians.

  While we said we accepted Jesus, we just didn't quite.

  Being out now, looking back, saying that JW's are Christians is a real stretch. Do you really accept Jesus Christ as your saviour by not partaking of the emblems representing his blood and flesh that he gave so that we might be saved?

  Brant
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  Time again for........ Congregation roll call

  by Jourles in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  it's been a while since this topic has been brought up.

  use it as a chance to see if there is someone you might know from years past.

  1973-1976 --- lakeside, ca??

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  Baptized in 1961 in Prescott, Arizona

  Avondale, AZ summer of 1964

  Albuquerque, New Mexico--South Valley 62-64

  Denver, Colorado, Cherry Creek 1965-66

  Federal Prisons: Mt. Lemon, Tucson, Arizona, La Tuna, Texas, briefly in El Reno Oklahoma, then 13 months in Springfield, MO 1966-68

  Conway, Jacksonville, Newport Arkansas 1968-70

  Aurora, MO 1971-1977

  Gladewater, TX 1977-1986

  Republic, MO 1986-1990

  Luling, TX 1990-199

  7Onion Creek Congo, Austin, TX 1997-1999

  Shawnee Kansas Congregation--2000-2005

  August 2005 attended my last meeting ever. Finally Free.

  What a horrible waste it was to spend 45 years under the direction of scam artists.

  Brant
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  Favorite Classical Music Piece?

  by El Kabong in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'm kind of partial to strauss....listening to "tales from the vienna woods" now......(with images of bugs bunny cartoons in my head).....what are your favorite classical pieces?

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  Gershwins Rhapsody in Blue.

  Ritual Fire Dance

  Grand Canyon Suite